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MV Hiyu
Dec 13, 2011 15:02:52 GMT -8
Post by zargoman on Dec 13, 2011 15:02:52 GMT -8
Make the Hiyu longer and wider and taller and add an elevator and...okay it's not going to happen. I guess the real question would be: Is it more cost effective to expand an existing boat or build a new one and keep the small one maintained.
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MV Hiyu
Dec 13, 2011 15:57:44 GMT -8
Post by SS San Mateo on Dec 13, 2011 15:57:44 GMT -8
There was a proposal in the early 80's to lengthen the Hiyu.
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MV Hiyu
Dec 13, 2011 18:53:16 GMT -8
Post by Barnacle on Dec 13, 2011 18:53:16 GMT -8
There was a proposal in the early 80's to lengthen the Hiyu. It looks suspiciously like the Christine Anderson.
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MV Hiyu
Dec 14, 2011 0:56:04 GMT -8
Post by Mike C on Dec 14, 2011 0:56:04 GMT -8
BC Ferries will gladly take the Hiyu off your hands. We're always looking for extra capacity in the Southern Gulf Islands.
I foresee a Galiano Queen. You say weiner, we say winner. ;D
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MV Hiyu
Dec 14, 2011 5:17:21 GMT -8
Post by Kahloke on Dec 14, 2011 5:17:21 GMT -8
A great assignment for Hiyu would be the Vashon Island - Southworth run should WSF ever break up the Fauntleroy-Vashon-Southworth triangle route. Fauntleroy-Vashon sees the most traffic, followed by Fauntleroy-Southworth. I'm not sure how much traffic Vashon-Southworth generates but any time I've ridden that route, I've not seen that many cars traveling between those two points, so it seems like Hiyu would be a good fit for that 10 minute shuttle.
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MV Hiyu
Dec 14, 2011 14:59:12 GMT -8
Post by Barnacle on Dec 14, 2011 14:59:12 GMT -8
At one point the idea was put forth, but it was claimed that the Hiyu was insufficient to handle the traffic. This is Back In The Day, mind. sometime during the Clinton Administration.
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Post by zargoman on Dec 15, 2011 9:44:39 GMT -8
There is a decent amount of Southworth/Vashon traffic, but with the numbers that I've observed, the Hiyu could easily handle it. I would like to see a direct Southworth/Seattle run. I'm sure it would take a lot of the Bremerton traffic away...I guess they would have to expand the Southworth dock first and then add more capacity to the roads and then... Not going to happen. I thought the proposal that I heard about that didn't have enough capacity was to have the Hiyu do Southworth/fauntleroy only and I can't remember how they wanted to get people between Southworth and Vashon
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MV Hiyu
Dec 15, 2011 15:51:46 GMT -8
Post by Barnacle on Dec 15, 2011 15:51:46 GMT -8
There is a decent amount of Southworth/Vashon traffic, but with the numbers that I've observed, the Hiyu could easily handle it. I would like to see a direct Southworth/Seattle run. I'm sure it would take a lot of the Bremerton traffic away...I guess they would have to expand the Southworth dock first and then add more capacity to the roads and then... Not going to happen. Actually, what killed that particular proposal wasn't the Southworth end--it was Colman Dock. P-52 isn't hardly big enough to handle the traffic it receives for the two runs it services, and Alaskan Way is already a nasty mess without a third ferry popping in. That doesn't sound familiar to me. The Hiyu most definitely wouldn't be able to handle the F-S traffic, and I think the inability to cross traffic lanes renders the whole idea moot for the Flying Saucer (and come to think of it, the Rhododendron).
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MV Hiyu
Jan 29, 2012 20:58:22 GMT -8
Post by dasgeneral on Jan 29, 2012 20:58:22 GMT -8
Any news on where the Hiyu has been serving as of recently, or was she put up in Eagle Harbor after the Chetzy took over the PD-T run?
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MV Hiyu
Jan 29, 2012 23:14:21 GMT -8
Post by FNS on Jan 29, 2012 23:14:21 GMT -8
Any news on where the Hiyu has been serving as of recently, or was she put up in Eagle Harbor after the Chetzy took over the PD-T run? The HIYU has been serving recently as a stationary platform for seagulls at Eagle Harbor VMC. She's made fast at the outermost slip there and is often hidden by other ferries as you view from the Bainbridge ferry terminal.
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MV Hiyu
Jan 30, 2012 5:17:54 GMT -8
Post by Barnacle on Jan 30, 2012 5:17:54 GMT -8
Any news on where the Hiyu has been serving as of recently, or was she put up in Eagle Harbor after the Chetzy took over the PD-T run? Hiyu hasn't been the primary at PDT for years. If she gets out of Eagle Harbor at all, it's usually up the the San Juans--and the Kwa-di-Tubtoys have filled in passably (not fantastically, but passably) in the interisland circuit instead.
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Post by zargoman on Jan 30, 2012 11:32:40 GMT -8
Unlike when the Rhody was at PDT, the Chetz can be used anywhere, so if there is a big pinch, I could see the Hiyu being put in at PDT. I guess the my question is: where does the Hiyu have the lowest impact-PDT or SJI? I remember last time she was at PDT and there was something like a two or three boat wait a couple times. I'm not familiar with what her impact is in the San Juans though.
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MV Hiyu
Jan 30, 2012 12:06:40 GMT -8
Post by Kahloke on Jan 30, 2012 12:06:40 GMT -8
I guess the my question is: where does the Hiyu have the lowest impact-PDT or SJI? I remember last time she was at PDT and there was something like a two or three boat wait a couple times. I'm not familiar with what her impact is in the San Juans though. I would say PDT for the following reasons: 1. there is very limited space for large commercial vehicles which frequently use the inter-island ferry to get between the islands on weekdays 2. Hiyu's slower operating speed cannot keep to the schedule set for the inter island ferry, which results in late sailings across the board in the islands, not just for the inter island ferry. It has a ripple effect which affects the mainline ferries, too. 3. Even though having Hiyu at PDT negatively impacts the commute off the south end of Vashon, there is still another way off the island (F-V-S). The inter-island ferry is typically the ONLY way to get between Lopez, Shaw, Orcas, and San Juan. The mainline ferries can pick up the slack a little bit, but there again, that impacts the schedule.
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MV Hiyu
Jan 30, 2012 15:15:54 GMT -8
Post by Barnacle on Jan 30, 2012 15:15:54 GMT -8
I would say PDT for the following reasons: 1. there is very limited space for large commercial vehicles which frequently use the inter-island ferry to get between the islands on weekdays 2. Hiyu's slower operating speed cannot keep to the schedule set for the inter island ferry, which results in late sailings across the board in the islands, not just for the inter island ferry. It has a ripple effect which affects the mainline ferries, too. 3. Even though having Hiyu at PDT negatively impacts the commute off the south end of Vashon, there is still another way off the island (F-V-S). The inter-island ferry is typically the ONLY way to get between Lopez, Shaw, Orcas, and San Juan. The mainline ferries can pick up the slack a little bit, but there again, that impacts the schedule. I'd like to add that I'm not ignoring the question (speaking from the SJI end of the game) but that this response covers it pretty well. The Hiyu really can't hardly accommodate inter-island traffic, and it ends up hanging up all the boats as we try to pick up the slack.
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MV Hiyu
Jan 30, 2012 16:07:39 GMT -8
Post by Neil on Jan 30, 2012 16:07:39 GMT -8
I would say PDT for the following reasons: 1. there is very limited space for large commercial vehicles which frequently use the inter-island ferry to get between the islands on weekdays 2. Hiyu's slower operating speed cannot keep to the schedule set for the inter island ferry, which results in late sailings across the board in the islands, not just for the inter island ferry. It has a ripple effect which affects the mainline ferries, too. 3. Even though having Hiyu at PDT negatively impacts the commute off the south end of Vashon, there is still another way off the island (F-V-S). The inter-island ferry is typically the ONLY way to get between Lopez, Shaw, Orcas, and San Juan. The mainline ferries can pick up the slack a little bit, but there again, that impacts the schedule. I'd like to add that I'm not ignoring the question (speaking from the SJI end of the game) but that this response covers it pretty well. The Hiyu really can't hardly accommodate inter-island traffic, and it ends up hanging up all the boats as we try to pick up the slack. I've always found the concept of your dedicated inter-island ferry interesting, since in the Canadian Gulf Islands there has never been a need for such a service. I guess part of the difference is that while there are five (southern) Gulf Islands served by ferry as opposed to four San Juans, Lopez, Orcas and San Juan have between 2100-7000 people on them, where in the Gulf Islands only Salt Spring has significantly over a thousand, year round. I've never noticed a lot of traffic going between our Gulf Islands, except for occasionally a decent amount going to and from Salt Spring. It would be interesting to see a comparison of traffic figures, but I don't think BC Ferries publishes inter-island totals. Is most of the San Juan inter-island traffic going to or from Friday Harbor, or is Orcas a destination as well? I can't imagine too many Orcas or San Juan islanders travelling over to Lopez or Shaw for any reason. (edit- actually, the Penders now have well over 2000 year round.)
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Post by Barnacle on Feb 1, 2012 6:54:53 GMT -8
Is most of the San Juan inter-island traffic going to or from Friday Harbor, or is Orcas a destination as well? I can't imagine too many Orcas or San Juan islanders traveling over to Lopez or Shaw for any reason. In the interest of full disclosure, I haven't worked on the inter-island boat since about 2003. But every time I see it going by, it seems to be about 1/3 full (this time of year) to half-full (spring/fall). I don't recall what summer shows for traffic, but I assume it's higher. Most of the traffic that I remember seems to be Friday Harbor-bound during the work day, with some Orcas-bound traffic; Lopez and Shaw are mostly residential and, as such, tend to have their traffic after work. Mid-day, a lot of of the inter-island traffic is commercial-based (i.e. grocery deliveries, tradesfolk of all stripes) from what I recall (and periodically carry, even on the 'big' boat).
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MV Hiyu
Feb 12, 2012 9:15:47 GMT -8
Post by zargoman on Feb 12, 2012 9:15:47 GMT -8
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MV Hiyu
Feb 15, 2012 9:34:55 GMT -8
Post by SS San Mateo on Feb 15, 2012 9:34:55 GMT -8
Hiyu at Eagle Harbor Looks like they replaced the incadesant light fixtures in the center tunnel.
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MV Hiyu
Aug 28, 2012 9:32:22 GMT -8
Post by SS San Mateo on Aug 28, 2012 9:32:22 GMT -8
According to the latest maintenance schedule, the Hiyu will be on the inter-island route for about a week in September.
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MV Hiyu
Sept 10, 2012 17:14:28 GMT -8
Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2012 17:14:28 GMT -8
According to the latest maintenance schedule, the Hiyu will be on the inter-island route for about a week in September. Looks like the Hiyu is not going to be the Inter-Island boat any more because the Evergreen State is back online again!
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MV Hiyu
Dec 4, 2012 19:34:13 GMT -8
Post by haleybug on Dec 4, 2012 19:34:13 GMT -8
I've ridden on her once and thought she was a perfect SAN JUAN - INTER - ISLAND VESSEL.... slow she maybe she was perfect for the vacationer...
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MV Hiyu
Dec 9, 2012 17:43:34 GMT -8
Post by SolDuc on Dec 9, 2012 17:43:34 GMT -8
Hiyu's back on Vessel Watch! She just made 11.1 knots between Southworth and Vashon (getting those engines warmed up quick, inverse of the Salish)! If she's still there next weekend I'm definitely gonna get pictures of her!
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MV Hiyu
Dec 9, 2012 18:27:42 GMT -8
Post by Steve Rosenow on Dec 9, 2012 18:27:42 GMT -8
Annnnnd, it looks like I'll be making another trip over on Tuesday!
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MV Hiyu
Dec 9, 2012 18:58:37 GMT -8
Post by SolDuc on Dec 9, 2012 18:58:37 GMT -8
Annnnnd, it looks like I'll be making another trip over on Tuesday! Remember: unscheduled sailings My advice: go as a walk-on and wait until she's coming I hate school right now
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MV Hiyu
Dec 9, 2012 19:04:45 GMT -8
Post by Steve Rosenow on Dec 9, 2012 19:04:45 GMT -8
Annnnnd, it looks like I'll be making another trip over on Tuesday! Remember: unscheduled sailings My advice: go as a walk-on and wait until she's coming That's my plan. I'll dump a small payment into the paid parking lot @ Southworth and sit there and wait a while.
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