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Post by Steve Rosenow on Jul 2, 2011 22:01:52 GMT -8
Why yes. She did have quite a bit of lean to her as well, at least when I left the car deck (I think I was one of the last few off after the ceremony ended).
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Post by Rhody on Jul 3, 2011 11:19:08 GMT -8
I'm taking my 1st trip on the Salish, very impressive, although the seats aren't as comfy as the seats on the Chetzy
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Post by rusty on Jul 3, 2011 13:11:32 GMT -8
Yeah, they cheaped the seats.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 3, 2011 18:06:07 GMT -8
The individual seats are nice on the Salish, the bench seats with tables aren't so much.
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Post by rusty on Jul 3, 2011 18:57:34 GMT -8
Yeah, I agree, the individual seats have enough cushion on the bottom to be OK. The overall appearance looks a bit tacky, as the upholstery looks like a bag around foam cushions, and will easily be ripped.
The bench seats have too little bottom foam for this 60 year-old bum.
Still, I'm happy for two boats. And maybe a little cost cutting was in order to get CPP's. But I feel this one.
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Post by FNS on Jul 3, 2011 21:50:36 GMT -8
I didn't really find time to try out the interior seating as I mostly divided my crossing times between the pickle forks on the Saloon Deck and promenading on the Sun Deck aboard the SALISH. The new style benches on the Sun Deck are nice to sit on (just watch for the dreaded from the seagulls!). Next time I'm aboard the SALISH, I'll try out her interior seats. The KDTs are like miniature versions of the NORTHERN EXPEDITION with those wide wheelhouses (bridges). You don't have to pay extra to look out the observatory windows like what you have to do on the NE, though! ;D Here's what I think they use to clean the side windows as well as the "back" windows on the bridges.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 4, 2011 6:15:02 GMT -8
I didn't really find time to try out the interior seating as I mostly divided my crossing times between the pickle forks on the Saloon Deck and promenading on the Sun Deck aboard the SALISH. I can understand that. - I took a series of 4 trips on Saturday on BC Ferries (7.5 hours of total ferry time), and I only sat-down inside once, and that was for breakfast in the cafeteria. All the other times I was outside enjoying the view, or wandering around the quiet car-decks (quiet, except for car-alarms) taking photos out the windows. I was a bit surprised at the end to realize that I hadn't sat-down in an inside lounge area chair once.
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Post by Rhody on Jul 4, 2011 22:26:13 GMT -8
I noticed the dedication plaque said the Salish was built by Todd Shipyards, perhaps the last plaque to say that, I imagine the Kennewick's will say Vigor
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Post by zargoman on Jul 6, 2011 16:58:38 GMT -8
I will agree with a previous observation of the engines on the Salish sounding like the ones on the Kaleetan while standing near the engines on the car deck. The Salish has some serious rumbling from the stern of the vessel. The best comparison that I could come up with is being on the stern of a Jumbo. I took a short video on Monday. www.flickr.com/photos/zheistand/5910166917/
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Post by FNS on Jul 6, 2011 17:48:43 GMT -8
Yeah, I agree, the individual seats have enough cushion on the bottom to be OK. The overall appearance looks a bit tacky, as the upholstery looks like a bag around foam cushions, and will easily be ripped. The bench seats have too little bottom foam for this 60 year-old bum. Still, I'm happy for two boats. And maybe a little cost cutting was in order to get CPP's. But I feel this one. We have to be very thankful for any comforts of seating here aboard the WSF ferries. There are no padded seats aboard the Staten Island ferries in New York, BURRARD OTTER and BURRARD BEAVER in Burrard Inlet, MV WHATCOM CHIEF, a few minor BC ferries, et al.
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Post by rusty on Jul 6, 2011 19:27:48 GMT -8
No padded seats--seems like the future for most of us, eh?
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Post by FNS on Jul 6, 2011 21:33:34 GMT -8
No padded seats--seems like the future for most of us, eh? Well, for some of the ferry systems. Remember the MV VASHON? She was the last Washington State ferry to have wooden benches inside the cabin. Her dining counter had spinning round wooden coasters on metal stands (removed in 1978 during a food service area remodel prior to her return to the San Juans after her period on the Columbia Beach run).
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Jul 7, 2011 18:28:27 GMT -8
I will agree with a previous observation of the engines on the Salish sounding like the ones on the Kaleetan while standing near the engines on the car deck. The Salish has some serious rumbling from the stern of the vessel. The best comparison that I could come up with is being on the stern of a Jumbo. I took a short video on Monday. www.flickr.com/photos/zheistand/5910166917/ LOL, I thought I was the only one who noticed the similarity between the Salish and Kaleetan. To me, when I stepped aboard for the open house, I thought for a minute I was aboard the Kaleetan when I heard them.
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Post by zargoman on Jul 7, 2011 23:07:47 GMT -8
LOL, I thought I was the only one who noticed the similarity between the Salish and Kaleetan. To me, when I stepped aboard for the open house, I thought for a minute I was aboard the Kaleetan when I heard them. It was the strangest thing...I was walking past the engine room entry area and noticed it. I stood there for a couple minutes to make sure that my ears were not deceiving me, and they were not. And then there's the noise off the stern of the boat. Sounds very similar to what is heard off the Jumbo ferries. I don't know why the sounds of the Salish are so much different than the Chetz, the only major difference is the controllable pitch prop system. That explains the rumbling, but does not explain the similarity in engine sounds to the Kaleetan. I have not heard any noises like that on the Chetz, as she just whines quite loudly.
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Post by zargoman on Jul 9, 2011 10:21:36 GMT -8
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Post by zargoman on Jul 9, 2011 10:33:18 GMT -8
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Jul 10, 2011 22:30:48 GMT -8
Wow. That video of the M/V Salish makes me think I'm on the Kaleetan! Sounds practically identical!
What is that loud clanging, tapping-like noise?! I hear it on the Kaleetan, too. Even the Hyak. Especially standing @ No. 1 End on the car deck when the ferry's headed towards Bremerton. It's barely noticeable on the sun deck or upper shelter, but once you step out onto the pickleforks or the car deck, it's instantly clear. It's a very distinct noise.
Either way, yeah. I would definitely that Kwa-di-Tubtoy ferry sounds IDENTICAL to her Super-Class cousin!
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 11, 2011 18:18:23 GMT -8
All the Supers and old Jumbos make that noise to some degree, IIRC. It's a familiar and comforting sound.
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Post by Kahloke on Jul 11, 2011 19:08:31 GMT -8
Wow. That video of the M/V Salish makes me think I'm on the Kaleetan! Sounds practically identical! I just rode on Salish for the first time today. I did a round trip as a footie from Port Townsend: rode over on Salish's 12:00 PT-KEY sailing, visited Fort Casey for a little bit, then returned back to PT on Chetzemoka's 13:30 sailing. Having been on Salish now, I would be hesitant to agree that she sounds practically identical to Kaleetan. There are a few similarities in the engine note, but mostly I thought Salish sounded quite different from anything else WSF has. Anyway, here are some fresh Salish pics from today: a peek-a-boo view of Salish arriving at Port Townsend Salish at Port Townsend Some passenger cabin shots Car deck photos Mezzanine stairs and bicycle ramp Salish at Keystone Salish departing Keystone Some quick observations regarding the seating: 1. I concur with others who have said the bench seats are uncomfortable. It's a definite downgrade from Chetzy's benches. 2. The individual chairs, on the other hand, are quite a bit more comfortable than the ones on Chetzemoka. In any case, it's nice to have two ferries back on that run.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Jul 12, 2011 7:50:21 GMT -8
All the Supers and old Jumbos make that noise to some degree, IIRC. It's a familiar and comforting sound. I agree!
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 12, 2011 9:13:41 GMT -8
Is there a Galley on the Salish??? The WSF site just mentions the Chetzy only.
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Post by FNS on Jul 12, 2011 9:39:58 GMT -8
Is there a Galley on the Salish??? The WSF site just mentions the Chetzy only. There is a galley aboard the SALISH besides the CHETZEMOKA. I paid little attention to this when I was aboard the SALISH on her first trips as I was outside most of the time. I did see someone in there doing setup work, though, on the first trip at 1200PDT July One Two Thousand Eleven. I think the KENNEWICK will have one too. May collect dust (sneeze) on the Tahlequah run, though. We'll see what we'll see when she starts her shifts there. Here's a picture of the SKANSONIA's galley when she was in service on the South Sound out of Point Defiance et al: search.tacomapubliclibrary.org/images/dt6n.asp?un=29&pg=2&krequest=ferry&stemming=On&phonic=&fuzzy=&maxfiles=5000
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Post by tom98250 on Jul 12, 2011 11:25:39 GMT -8
How cool is that?! I'd definitely go for a fried ham sandwich at that counter! ;D
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Post by lmtengs on Jul 12, 2011 15:33:48 GMT -8
I love the 'popsicles' sign above the counter ;D
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 13, 2011 15:36:37 GMT -8
Is there a Galley on the Salish??? The WSF site just mentions the Chetzy only. There should be one present; after all, they're supposed to be identical (save for the propulsion systems and rubrails, of course). Whether it's in operation, I don't know.
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