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Post by Steve Rosenow on Jul 13, 2011 16:40:25 GMT -8
There is a galley on the Salish. That, I can confirm.
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Post by rusty on Jul 13, 2011 17:02:37 GMT -8
Yeah, I bought a cup of coffee from the galley the first (or second) day it was open. Boy, that was a mistake.
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Post by BreannaF on Jul 22, 2011 21:17:43 GMT -8
A one-week-old M/V Salish leaving Keystone Harbor 7/10/2011. It actually leaves the dock about 1:15 into the video. And....... nothing like the clam chowder from the galley, as eaten outside on the upper deck.....
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Post by zargoman on Aug 25, 2011 10:26:39 GMT -8
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Post by Kahloke on Aug 27, 2011 11:25:22 GMT -8
This was an interesting situation on board Salish Thursday morning (Aug 25). We were on the 11:15 sailing from PT to KEY. As most of you know, Chetzemoka was out of service during this time, leaving Salish to pick up the slack on a one-boat service level. They had gotten everyone on board, but thought there was room for one more vehicle. The last vehicle turned out to be this very large pickup, which they were able to jockey into position, but it still covered the forward hatch, the one closest to the bow. The crew were debating whether to back this guy off or not, and finally decided to let him stay, figuring they could get him off the hatch en-route. So, they called out for the owner of the white truck next to this big truck to come back down to the car deck. They had the white truck move backward just a little bit, so the other truck could inch forward a little more and clear the hatch. That ended up working, and it was quite entertaining to watch from the pickle fork. Here are the photos:
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Post by zargoman on Aug 27, 2011 20:37:27 GMT -8
And there is one reason why the boats are so late so often. They do a real good job squeezing the cars in, but it takes time. The two crew in the bottom photo are some of the best "squeezers" =) It still was not fun dealing with the amount of people that came for the one boat. I'm glad that I got one of the three days off. Just today, the first boat that made a successful trip departed PT at 10:30 and Keystone at 11:15. The fog was too thick to dock at Keystone earlier in the day. The 6:30/7:15 8:00/8:45 and 9:30/10:15 departures were cancelled.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Aug 27, 2011 21:47:14 GMT -8
How come we see more WSF cancelled due to fog than BC Ferries?? Dont they have radar? lol!! I guess Keystone can be pretty tricky though in the fog!
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Post by lmtengs on Aug 27, 2011 23:24:42 GMT -8
...it still covered the forward hatch... ...figuring they could get him off the hatch en-route.... ....clear the hatch.... What exactly is this all-important hatch?
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Post by FNS on Aug 27, 2011 23:50:43 GMT -8
...it still covered the forward hatch... ...figuring they could get him off the hatch en-route.... ....clear the hatch.... What exactly is this all-important hatch? I think it provides access to the steering gear.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Aug 28, 2011 0:41:43 GMT -8
Looking at some of the documentation of the KDT class on WSDOT's website (read: the entire set of blueprints available for download), I believe that hatch is an emergency escape hatch.
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Post by EGfleet on Aug 28, 2011 4:27:22 GMT -8
How come we see more WSF cancelled due to fog than BC Ferries?? Dont they have radar? lol!! I guess Keystone can be pretty tricky though in the fog! Port Townsend-Keystone is about the only route they'll cancel for fog. They started doing that after the Quinault ran aground there in thick fog about...hmm...must be eight years or more back now.
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Post by Barnacle on Aug 29, 2011 15:51:36 GMT -8
How come we see more WSF cancelled due to fog than BC Ferries?? Dont they have radar? lol!! I guess Keystone can be pretty tricky though in the fog! The entrance to Keystone Harbor is a trying maneuver under the best of circumstances. I've never been trained on that run and I won't work there. And yes, as EvergreenFleet points out, it's the only run where we suspend service due to fog (or for that matter, low tide or strong current). And yet Senator Mary Margaret Haugen won't let us move the dock...
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Post by zargoman on Aug 30, 2011 8:13:11 GMT -8
I've spent a few mornings on the apron talking to the boat about what I can and cannot see. From what I understand, they have to have a visual on the dock before coming into the harbor in order to come in. They've spent a good amount of time circling around outside the harbor hoping for a little clearing. The boat will usually return to Port Townsend after 30-60 minutes of waiting outside of the harbor. The most common question during fog cancellations: "Don't they have radar?" I can totally understand the question, as it is something that I would ask in that situation if I didn't know about the operations up there. I do think that with the advances in technology that they would be permitted to come in blind, but that's relying on the technology being 100% accurate 10% of the time. =( When it does get foggy, the #1 boat is normally late while the #2 boat is trying to be on time. It makes for this to happen: IMG_6560 by zargoman, on Flickr I would like to see them work together to have both boats spread apart, as the # 1 boat is full and getting later and later and the #2 boat is maybe 1/4th full and on-time. WSF is really pushing for on-time performance, and the particular crew of the Chetz would not slow down a bit to spread out the departure times and traffic.
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Post by zargoman on Sept 6, 2011 21:21:50 GMT -8
I'm not too sure why there is a "Vashon Island" sign at the galley on the Salish. As far as I know, it's not planned to be permanent at Point Defiance...Could just be an old sign that they had. On the Chetzemoka, the galley signage says "Port Townsend". "Ferry Boat Cafe/Vashon Island" by zargoman, on Flickr Departing Keystone Salish by zargoman, on Flickr
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Post by zargoman on Sept 12, 2011 19:58:08 GMT -8
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Sept 12, 2011 22:26:07 GMT -8
Seems you're applying the Rule of Thirds to a lot of your recent work! Loving these new shots!
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Post by lifc on Sept 23, 2011 10:36:43 GMT -8
Well, it took me a while to find out, but a friend of mine in the Engineering Department told me the Salish is burning about 1500 gallons of fuel a day in #1 position at keystone. That's just about twice the fuel burn of the Steel Electrics and 2 1/2 times the Stealacoom II. Ouch!
I have never been a fan of this design for quite a few reasons I have put forth before, I have suspected this and now it's confirmed.
Th Salish is running in #1 position, because the Chetzemoka is even thirstier, it can burn up to 1800 gallons a day in #1 position!
I know some of you think these are just fine vessels, but as a taxpayer, this infuriates me. A properly designed 70 car Vessel, these are 64, with the right engines and propeller system ought to be burning 7-800 gallons a day.
These ought to be sold off as soon as possible, I know, the loss would be enormous, but which way do you want to pay? A properly designed vessel would cost far less to build and burn far less fuel and pay off in short order. Maybe the Steamship Authority needs another new boat or two.
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Post by alaskanmohican on Sept 23, 2011 13:54:32 GMT -8
Allow me to wade into the waters of WSF and politely disagree with this. Well, it took me a while to find out, but a friend of mine in the Engineering Department told me the Salish is burning about 1500 gallons of fuel a day in #1 position at keystone. That's just about twice the fuel burn of the Steel Electrics and 2 1/2 times the Stealacoom II. Ouch! So from what I can find out, the Steel Electrics were around 1300 gross tons, while the KDT class are around 4600 tons. Newbuild ships today are heavier than equivalent sized ships from yesteryear, modern regs and safety requirements result in heavier vessels. Heavier vessels will burn more fuel. Considering you say that the KDT burn 2x the fuel, but by gross tonnage alone the KDT are over 3x heavier, on the surface it looks like they actually burn less fuel per ton. These ought to be sold off as soon as possible, I know, the loss would be enormous, but which way do you want to pay? A properly designed vessel would cost far less to build and burn far less fuel and pay off in short order. Maybe the Steamship Authority needs another new boat or two. I don't think this will work as well as you're hoping. First rarely do ferries sell for anywhere near a price close to what it cost to build, little alone the asking price. Building a completely new design is expensive, there is a discussion in the Alaska Class thread about the high cost of that new design. And how would building a brand new design guarantee a lower rate of fuel consumption? A properly designed 70 car Vessel, these are 64, with the right engines and propeller system ought to be burning 7-800 gallons a day. So where do you get the numbers for the fuel consumption to car capacity. There are many factors into a ships fuel consumption, the car capacity is really not a very good comparison. Rather the gross tonnage is a better comparison. Your hull design, type of engine, timing of the runs, does the ship idle her engines at dock all can effect fuel consumption. Also car sizes vary in different regions. Car capacities for European car ferries typically seem higher for a vessel of comparable size in the US or Canada, European autos are on the whole smaller than on this side of the Atlantic. Even in Alaska the "average car size" is larger at 20' than in the lower 48 which are usually around 18' or smaller. So comparing vessels based on car capacity to determine fuel consumption is not very acurate. So these are my uninformed thoughts on the matter. ;D I leave you to yours.
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Post by FNS on Oct 8, 2011 7:28:17 GMT -8
Morning view of the MV SALISH on 10-08-2011 SALISH on her 0800PDT sailing from Port Townsend to Keystone Harbor at Coupeville.
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Post by FNS on Oct 16, 2011 23:03:11 GMT -8
Afternoon views of the SALISH from the air aboard an Otter float plane on Friday, October 14, 2011. She was on her 1545PDT run from Port Townsend to Keystone Harbor at Coupeville.
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Post by FNS on Nov 14, 2011 0:44:53 GMT -8
The crew of the good ferry SALISH did a rescue last week. November 11 was the date of this good deed done by them. The Peninsula Daily News has this report: peninsuladailynews.com/article/20111113/news/311139981/ferry-personnel-rescue-man-stricken-in-boatpeninsuladailynews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/misc?url=/templates/zoom.pbs&Site=PT&Date=20111113&Category=news&ArtNo=311139981&Ref=ARFerry personnel rescue man stricken in boatBy Charlie Bermant Peninsula Daily News PORT TOWNSEND — Ferry service on the Port Townsend-Coupeville route Friday was disrupted when the MV Salish conducted a water rescue for a man on a pleasure craft. At about 3:45 p.m., the Salish was pulling into Port Townsend when boat personnel noticed a man in a 17-foot craft who seemed to be ill, said Susan Harris Huether, spokeswoman for Washington State Ferries. The ferry circled the distressed boater, who was not identified, several times until crew members prepared an inflatable Zodiac boat to pull him out of the water. The Zodiac, with the man aboard, traveled alongside the ferry while taking him to shore, said Port Townsend City Councilwoman Laurie Medlicott, who was watching from her home. He was taken to an East Jefferson Fire-Rescue ambulance that was waiting on the ferry dock and then pulled into an adjacent parking lot to give him initial treatment. The man was transported to Jefferson Healthcare hospital, where he was treated for hypothermia and discharged, said Bill Beezley, fire department spokesman. Harris Huether said one round trip of the Salish was canceled. Service commenced with the 5:15 p.m. sailing. Service already was behind schedule because of high winds and choppy seas, Harris Huether said. Medlicott said she saw another boat tow the abandoned boat onto shore after the rescue. ________ Jefferson County Reporter Charlie Bermant
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Post by zargoman on Nov 26, 2011 13:22:59 GMT -8
Quite a low tide at Port Townsend last night TOO much greeen Still nice and shiny
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 26, 2011 13:42:26 GMT -8
Quite a low tide at Port Townsend last night So THAT'S where all the water came from! ;D This is the level that the water is usually at at Lonsdale Quay: www.eldoradopie.com/images/lonsdalequay.jpgThis is where it was at the other day when I was over there: That's a good 5 feet higher than the average high tide, and a good 20 to 25 feet higher than chart datum.
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Post by zargoman on Nov 26, 2011 15:35:08 GMT -8
It was amazing how high and low our tides have been this past week. When I started my shift, the transfer span had to be set real high, and when I ended, it was waaayyy down. The boat (and I'd imagine other WSF boats) is crunching the barnacles on the wingwalls and some of the remnants are ending up on the rubrail. I think that the highest we had was on Monday, as an incoming storm pushed it up even higher than it would normally have been.
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Post by Freeland on Dec 17, 2011 16:05:12 GMT -8
Sounds like Orcas were sighted yesterday Dec 16 off of the Salish Ferry according to the Orca Network. www.orcanetwork.org/sightings/map.html#recent1:06 pm - John Rogstad of Washington State Ferries called to relay a report from the captain of the ferry Salish about a pod of orcas moving slowly south in the Keystone to Port Townsend ferry lane. He also reported that a group of 5 or 6 juveniles were off to themselves, accompanied by an adult male. Babysitting maybe? * More coming in! 12:43 - Sandra Pollard just called from Ft. Casey (Admiralty Head, Whidbey) to say more orcas are approaching Admiralty Inlet from the north, coming steadily south, mid-channel and closer to the Whidbey Island side. * 12:29 pm - Calls still audible as the ferry pulls away. Meg McDonald * 12:10 - I just heard a couple of L pod whistles and calls. L87 was already spotted. Could there be more L pod members at this time of year? Meg McDonald
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