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Post by zargoman on Feb 2, 2013 0:51:19 GMT -8
The Elwha saw her shadow at Lopez Island back in October Headed back into the United States after the daily departure from Sidney Just after changing the flag Mt. Baker in the background Late Spring sunset
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Post by maximase86 on Feb 18, 2013 18:19:11 GMT -8
Is it right that the side that Elwha got bashed in during the artic express is the side that not only the elevator is, but also the side the emergency generator is closest to as well?
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Post by compdude787 on Feb 18, 2013 21:23:57 GMT -8
I don't know about that.
But I do have another question: Why is the Elwha really top-heavy? Has she been that way since she was built, or was that just a result of repairs done to her after the Arctic Express pounded her into the dock?
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Feb 18, 2013 21:46:33 GMT -8
Is it right that the side that Elwha got bashed in during the artic express is the side that not only the elevator is, but also the side the emergency generator is closest to as well? Yes to both answers.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Feb 18, 2013 21:51:04 GMT -8
I don't know about that. But I do have another question: Why is the Elwha really top-heavy? Has she been that way since she was built, or was that just a result of repairs done to her after the Arctic Express pounded her into the dock? A little bit of both. However, the design of the Supers has always been top heavy. That part we can't refute, as there's photos of the Supers (specifically a 1968 shot of the Kaleetan) even in their early days exhibiting a list. Their rather narrow hulls also contribute to it. As far as the Elwha, part of her top-heavy build has to do with the generator between the funnels on the Texas deck. That's at least a 6,000-10,000lb setup. Also, the extra SOLAS gear cut into the curtain plate at each end, adds to the top-heavy situation of the Elwha.
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Post by compdude787 on Feb 18, 2013 21:58:13 GMT -8
I don't know about that. But I do have another question: Why is the Elwha really top-heavy? Has she been that way since she was built, or was that just a result of repairs done to her after the Arctic Express pounded her into the dock? A little bit of both. However, the design of the Supers has always been top heavy. That part we can't refute, as there's photos of the Supers (specifically a 1968 shot of the Kaleetan) even in their early days exhibiting a list. Their rather narrow hulls also contribute to it. As far as the Elwha, part of her top-heavy build has to do with the generator between the funnels on the Texas deck. That's at least a 6,000-10,000lb setup. Also, the extra SOLAS gear cut into the curtain plate at each end, adds to the top-heavy situation of the Elwha. Okay thanks for the info. I didn't realize all the Supers are slightly top-heavy.
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Post by maximase86 on Feb 18, 2013 22:15:55 GMT -8
The other question I have is what is different about her propulsion system. She seems to have about 2,200hp more that rest of the supers from what I've seen. Is this horsepower show up via her DC motors, or does she have different spec generators (perhaps newer spec or bigger EMD 645's)?
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Feb 18, 2013 22:29:48 GMT -8
I believe the extra horsepower is through a different generator set, and I think the extra horsepower has to do with the fact the Elwha has a lower freeboard, and a deeper draft. Which means, the engines need a bit more horsepower to push more ship through the water.
The Elwha also has, at last I recall (and I may be incorrect on this, Barnacle can correct me if I am wrong) a lot of concrete ballast added to offset the mods and structural alterations to it stemming from the 1990 Arctic Express damage and the overhaul she was going through at the time.
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Post by Barnacle on Feb 19, 2013 14:43:02 GMT -8
I believe the extra horsepower is through a different generator set, and I think the extra horsepower has to do with the fact the Elwha has a lower freeboard, and a deeper draft. Which means, the engines need a bit more horsepower to push more ship through the water. The Elwha also has, at last I recall (and I may be incorrect on this, Barnacle can correct me if I am wrong) a lot of concrete ballast added to offset the mods and structural alterations to it stemming from the 1990 Arctic Express damage and the overhaul she was going through at the time. As far as the extra horsepower, I don't know enough of the specs to give you the correct answer and I respect the members of the forum enough to not deliberately talk through my hat. The concrete ballast... I've been told it's down there, and I have no cause to doubt them. The fully enclosed stair towers aren't helping the draft, either.
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Post by SolDuc on Feb 19, 2013 17:31:10 GMT -8
A little bit of both. However, the design of the Supers has always been top heavy. That part we can't refute, as there's photos of the Supers (specifically a 1968 shot of the Kaleetan) even in their early days exhibiting a list. Their rather narrow hulls also contribute to it. As far as the Elwha, part of her top-heavy build has to do with the generator between the funnels on the Texas deck. That's at least a 6,000-10,000lb setup. Also, the extra SOLAS gear cut into the curtain plate at each end, adds to the top-heavy situation of the Elwha. Okay thanks for the info. I didn't realize all the Supers are slightly top-heavy. I think a little more than slightly, for the top heaviness. The Elwha is sure the leader for that, but the other boats are also well top heavy, which makes them pitch and roll quite a lot, even in calm seas, and to lean a lot when making big turns (or at least compared to other ferries). Also to add to the Elwha there is the sairwells, as Barnacle stated but also all the SOLAS equipment such as the sprinklers and extra life rafts.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on May 20, 2013 17:51:24 GMT -8
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on May 23, 2013 10:36:43 GMT -8
/!\ Photo Heavy /!\May 20, 2013The following images posted by this account are copyright © S.A. ~ Unauthorized use is prohibited. WSF - Hyak and Elwha at Anacortes. by BCFS, on Flickr WSF - Elwha outbound from Slip 1, Anacortes. by BCFS, on Flickr WSF - Elwha outbound from Slip 1, Anacortes. by BCFS, on Flickr WSF - Elwha approaching Slip 2, Anacortes. by BCFS, on Flickr WSF - Elwha approaching Slip 2, Anacortes. by BCFS, on Flickr WSF - Elwha approaching Slip 2, Anacortes. by BCFS, on Flickr WSF - Elwha approaching Slip 2, Anacortes. by BCFS, on Flickr WSF - Elwha outbound from Anacortes. by BCFS, on Flickr WSF - Elwha outbound from Anacortes. by BCFS, on Flickr
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 23, 2013 10:54:41 GMT -8
Did you get to the bottom of the subdivision for this photo ? - I think there's a paved walking path along the beach, accessed from the dead-end of the subdivision road (per Google maps). That's where I should have gone, last July (too many trees in the way, from the top of the subdivision). Great shots.
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on May 23, 2013 10:58:46 GMT -8
Did you get to the bottom of the subdivision for this photo ? - I think there's a paved walking path along the beach, accessed from the dead-end of the subdivision road (per Google maps). That's where I should have gone, last July (too many trees in the way, from the top of the subdivision). Great shots. Thank you, Mike. Yes, I drove down to the bottom of that new subdivision to capture that shot.
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Post by SolDuc on Jun 17, 2013 22:03:44 GMT -8
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Post by SolDuc on Jun 17, 2013 22:24:28 GMT -8
The Elwha, as seen by a Canon EOS Rebel T2i sensor, last weekend: Arriving at Anacortes from Sidney and Friday Harbor: MV Elwha - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr MV Elwha - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr Deparing Anacortes on the (late) 3:35PM sailing to Orcas: MV Elwha - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr MV Elwha - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr Strangly no one was sitting in the Eames chairs...I wonder why. MV Elwha - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr The Nameplate, which is on the crew quarters and not the upper bulwark as Barnacle stated: MV Elwha - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr Turning around after departing Shaw: MV Elwha - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr Sun Deck: MV Elwha - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr As seen from the car deck: MV Elwha - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr MV Elwha - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr Had I had the right lens you would see a picture of the Elwha under Baker with a sailboat. Oh well, next time around... And away for Friday Harbor: MV Elwha - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Jun 17, 2013 22:44:18 GMT -8
Looks like the cabin itself was pretty much empty!
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Post by compdude787 on Jul 22, 2013 21:10:03 GMT -8
Photo heavyHere are some pics of the Elwha I took two weeks ago when I was at Lopez Island. First one is the Elwha docked at Anacortes, seen from the departing Chelan. Elwha docked at Anacortes by compdude787, on Flickr With the Chelan's picklefork and wake in view: Elwha docked at Anacortes by compdude787, on Flickr View (nearly) straight through the cardeck: Elwha docked at Anacortes by compdude787, on Flickr The sails on this sailboat are taller than the Elwha: Elwha and a really tall sailboat by compdude787, on Flickr Elwha and a really tall sailboat by compdude787, on Flickr Elwha, Sealth, and a sailboat: Elwha and Sealth by compdude787, on Flickr Elwha going between Flat Point on Lopez Island and Canoe Is.: Elwha by compdude787, on Flickr Close-up shot, showing that there's a lot of people out on the sun deck: Elwha by compdude787, on Flickr Elwha by compdude787, on Flickr Each end of the Elwha: Elwha by compdude787, on Flickr Elwha by compdude787, on Flickr I love taking pictures of ferries where part of the beach is visible: Elwha by compdude787, on Flickr Now here are some sunset photos. In the first one, I had no idea I was capturing the Elwha. It would make a GREAT flagship photo entry if the ferry was lit up to be more visible. Sunset scene by compdude787, on Flickr Elwha in the sunset by compdude787, on Flickr Elwha in the sunset by compdude787, on Flickr Elwha under dramatic skies, and with the beach visible: Elwha by compdude787, on Flickr Elwha and a sailboat approach each other: Elwha by compdude787, on Flickr And, last but not least... Elwha by compdude787, on Flickr
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 22, 2013 21:57:40 GMT -8
I like the Elwha. I remember riding her a few times from Sidney to Anacortes. Wish she was still on that run instead of the Chelan.
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 23, 2013 19:29:08 GMT -8
I like the Elwha. I remember riding her a few times from Sidney to Anacortes. Wish she was still on that run instead of the Chelan. She is, periodically.
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Post by compdude787 on Jul 23, 2013 19:58:14 GMT -8
I like the Elwha. I remember riding her a few times from Sidney to Anacortes. Wish she was still on that run instead of the Chelan. Usually the Chelan is on the Sidney run during the summer and the Elwha is on the run during the spring and fall. I think it's because the Sidney run goes directly between Sidney and Anacortes during the summer, but during the fall and spring the ferry stops at Friday Harbor on the way to and from Sidney.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jul 23, 2013 21:32:29 GMT -8
I like the Elwha. I remember riding her a few times from Sidney to Anacortes. Wish she was still on that run instead of the Chelan. Usually the Chelan is on the Sidney run during the summer and the Elwha is on the run during the spring and fall. I think it's because the Sidney run goes directly between Sidney and Anacortes during the summer, but during the fall and spring the ferry stops at Friday Harbor on the way to and from Sidney. I think the Elwha should be the main vessel on the Sidney route even during the summer!
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Post by SolDuc on Jul 23, 2013 21:43:58 GMT -8
I think the Elwha should be the main vessel on the Sidney route even during the summer! Then please explain what is your plan for the San Juans not to loose capacity? (assuming the Tokitae goes at M-C where it belongs)
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Post by compdude787 on Jul 23, 2013 21:47:38 GMT -8
Usually the Chelan is on the Sidney run during the summer and the Elwha is on the run during the spring and fall. I think it's because the Sidney run goes directly between Sidney and Anacortes during the summer, but during the fall and spring the ferry stops at Friday Harbor on the way to and from Sidney. I think the Elwha should be the main vessel on the Sidney route even during the summer! There's nothing wrong with having the Chelan on the route, as it burns WAY less fuel than the Elwha. They should almost use the Chelan all the time on the Sidney run because it's more fuel-efficient and does a better job at handling the rough seas on Haro Strait.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jul 23, 2013 21:48:48 GMT -8
I think the Elwha should be the main vessel on the Sidney route even during the summer! Then please explain what is your plan for the San Juans not to loose capacity? (assuming the Tokitae goes at M-C where it belongs) Lets put the Kaleetan as San Juans Island boat which would place the Walla Walla on the Seattle to Bremerton route.
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