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Post by Barnacle on Jul 2, 2007 10:22:15 GMT -8
She should be on sea trials today. She's been doing some sea trials, and the usual sort of things happen--"wait a minute, I'm sure that wasn't supposed to happen; can we make it happen again?" sort of stuff, adjustments here and there... kind of the nautical equivalent of teething. Of course I'm reluctant to air out details about what's going on, since I'm not sure about the accuracy of the "coconut telegraph" on this stuff. I should be able to give up a little first-hand info as to how it's working out fairly soon--I have a field trip scheduled.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jul 2, 2007 18:40:01 GMT -8
This question is directed towards Barnacle. You mentioned that the Elwha has a 3 inch twist in her hull.
Has this caused any undo wear on the machinery of the vessel? I would deem it impractical, if not impossible to rectify the twist without a very expensive major rebuild. Probably not practical with a vessel her age.
Was the twist discovered back in 1990 after the storm or was it uncovered later on?
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 4, 2007 17:17:44 GMT -8
Nobody really knows. It could be years of wear and tear and weather; it may have happened after the 1990 storm debacle; it could've happened as a result of running aground in Grindstone Harbor in 1983. That having been said, three inches of twist in the hull is spread out over 382 feet, so it's a pretty small difference over any given piece of machinery. PLus, most of it's been removed and replaced at some point in the overhauls, so I would suspect that realignment has taken place. I only know about it because I was aboard when some stability measurements were taken, and it just now occurs to me that some of that three inches could have been due to flexing. When it comes right down to it, I suspect there ain't a doggone one of 'em that's perfectly straight.
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Post by zman on Jul 8, 2007 17:06:47 GMT -8
Here she is!!! Sea trials
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 8, 2007 17:14:01 GMT -8
When were you out today? Just curious cause I saw her at Eagle on Friday and what route were you on?
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Post by zman on Jul 8, 2007 17:20:50 GMT -8
It was the 4:20 from Seattle to Bremerton. She was out by Blake Island. There was also a small tug standing by.
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Post by Kam on Jul 9, 2007 9:03:12 GMT -8
Wow.. is it normal for her to make so much smoke?
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 9, 2007 11:28:02 GMT -8
Wow.. is it normal for her to make so much smoke? As normal as anything... she's smoked like that for years.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jul 10, 2007 11:21:31 GMT -8
As of 11:15AM this morning, the Elwha is again doing sea trials of the north end of Blake Island.
Let's all hope everything is going well and she will be fit for duty soon.
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Post by zman on Jul 10, 2007 20:30:45 GMT -8
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 10, 2007 20:34:58 GMT -8
Barnacle, how long is she going to be there?
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 10, 2007 20:35:32 GMT -8
'Til she's right. You wouldn't want her any other way, trust me.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 10, 2007 20:38:24 GMT -8
I know, I am planning on going there tomorrow. Want to see if I can get pics of her. If I have to go on an early sailing I want to know.
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Post by zman on Jul 10, 2007 20:46:01 GMT -8
I'm hoping that she will still be there for a little while in the AM...The security gates were still open and the gate was up at 7:50 pm.
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Post by In Washington on Jul 11, 2007 7:35:20 GMT -8
The Elwha will return to service somewhere around 7/28-29, if all goes to plan. A bonus for Bremerton commuters who get to keep the Walla Walla an extra coupld of weeks. The Kaleetan will take over for the Wally which goes to Kingston. Having the Sealth is causing overloads into the late morning some days. When the Kaleetan gets there it will just be worse. A bad Summer for Bremerton auto commuters
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 11, 2007 9:29:30 GMT -8
And looks like she is out again. Look we can survive on a 144 and 124, just not a 144 and 90. I'd warn HQ of complaints from Bremerton soon. But who cares, it is better to have a 90 over a 124 therefore, less passengers on the same boat.
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 11, 2007 19:48:54 GMT -8
The Elwha will return to service somewhere around 7/28-29, if all goes to plan. I'm not putting any bets down on it but things are looking up, as far as I know. If they're putting in to Pier 52 instead of Eagle Harbor, that's promising.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jul 13, 2007 19:45:16 GMT -8
Why not put the Elwha into service at Bremerton for a couple of weeks? That way if she does require more repairs, she is close to Eagle Harbor.
There will be a loss of car space ,but if the Kitty returns to Whidbey, then the Kitsap can return to Bremerton with the Elwha.
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 13, 2007 21:09:16 GMT -8
You know, that idea's been floating around the "boat people" for a couple of months, and it makes a great deal of sense to a lot of us... care to plead our case with a port captain?
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Post by zman on Jul 14, 2007 20:44:09 GMT -8
I was wondering the same thing...Not only would that be great for the proximity of Eagle Harbor, it would get rid of the Sealth for a little while, allowing for better traffic flow. With I5 being restricted next month, I think that there will be a slight increase in traffic.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jul 15, 2007 12:30:13 GMT -8
Another question I have about the Elwha is she still going to be able to do the International run? If she is, will she be the primary vessel or just a back-up to the Chelan?
There has been discussion on this site about capacity for the Sidney run and is the Chelan always full at this time of year? I think the Elwha holds only 24 additional vehicles. Is it more economical to run the Chelan instead of the Elwha?
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Post by EGfleet on Jul 15, 2007 12:49:31 GMT -8
Another question I have about the Elwha is she still going to be able to do the International run? If she is, will she be the primary vessel or just a back-up to the Chelan? There has been discussion on this site about capacity for the Sidney run and is the Chelan always full at this time of year? I think the Elwha holds only 24 additional vehicles. Is it more economical to run the Chelan instead of the Elwha? The Elwha's SOLAS certificate has expired, and she will need some work done to her before she can be recertified. She is no longer the primary Sidney vessel--the Chelan has taken that over and it is very likely the the Elwha will not be used for the run again. The Chelan is far more economical than the Elwha. It burns about half the fuel (well, a little less than half according to the engineer I spoke to) and takes less crew to run her. As for the Chelan being "always full" this time of year...um, well, not this year. We've had 65 cars or so during the week and maybe up to 90 on the weekends. The combined holiday weekend around the 4th of July the boat was full, but it hasn't been since. Yesterday, for example we had 73 going up and 78 coming back. Friday we had just over 90 in each direction. Thursday if I'm remember correctly it was 60ish each way, and Wednesday the trip was 45ish, with about 58 coming back. In other words, it appears traffic is down again this year.
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Post by chokai on Jul 15, 2007 14:28:16 GMT -8
Driving by on the viaduct I noticed that the Elwha was at Colman dock this afternoon ~3pm in the Bainbridge slip. The JMII's for Bainbridge were using the center slip. They appeared to be taking stuff on (or off) the boat on trucks, but also appeared to have some type of crew and crane working on the transfer span.
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Post by zman on Jul 15, 2007 19:53:26 GMT -8
Last night, the boats were all going out of the Bremerton slip...they were waiting out in the harbor and docking after the previous boat left. That was up until at least 22:30.
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 15, 2007 21:59:27 GMT -8
They had a mechanical problem with Slip #3 last evening which knocked it out of service, so they moved the Elwha over for the day.
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