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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2012 14:35:31 GMT -8
Kaleetan will NOT be going on the Anacortes to San Juan Island this year.
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 2, 2012 3:51:00 GMT -8
Too bad; I was looking forward to a visit from the old girl.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2012 13:16:32 GMT -8
The Kaleetan will be on the Edmonds - Kingston on January 7 to January 14.
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 10, 2012 11:49:23 GMT -8
The Kaleetan will be on the Edmonds - Kingston on January 7 to January 14. As of this writing. There's still almost two months between now and then.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Nov 10, 2012 11:54:31 GMT -8
And with the recent developments to the Walla2 we may see changes on the fly
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Post by SolDuc on Nov 12, 2012 17:03:38 GMT -8
Picts of the Kaleetan when she came to Seattle for the 3:00 PM departure: She had to make a detour due to an APL freighter. There she is seen with the Tacoma: Peek-a-boo under the passenger overhead walkway: Through the Toolbooths: And finally seen from in between piers 50 and 48:
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Post by lar on Nov 13, 2012 7:22:31 GMT -8
Nice shots above!
I hope someone might be willing to fill me in regarding the fore and aft white running lights used on the Kaleetan; I’m trying to get them right on the pilotable Kaleetan model for flight simulators. I know where the lights are located, but I don’t know for sure which ones are lit while underway, and the angles at which they can be seen. For example, there are two while lights near the top of each mast, one on the forward side, on the aft.
And are any of the white lights turned off while at the slip? I’ll bet Steve knows!
Larry
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Nov 13, 2012 9:58:22 GMT -8
Are you referring to the docking lights or the ones on the masthead?
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Post by lar on Nov 13, 2012 12:16:55 GMT -8
I'm thinking of the USCG required (or optional) white "running lights" on the masts, as well as the ones on the pilothouses that are used on the Kaleetan.
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Post by SolDuc on Nov 13, 2012 14:43:33 GMT -8
I'm thinking of the USCG required (or optional) white "running lights" on the masts, as well as the ones on the pilothouses that are used on the Kaleetan. Advice: Consult the extensive collection of Kaleetan at night and at Bremerton on Steve's flickr!
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 13, 2012 16:45:16 GMT -8
UNDERWAY LIGHTING: Port (red) running light. Visible from centerline (CL) for 135 degrees (45 degrees aft of beam) on port side (from operating pilothouse). Starboard (green) running light. Same drill, opposite side. Forward (white) masthead light: on CL, on forward pilothouse roof. Visible from CL to 45 degrees aft of the beam on both sides. (270 degrees total.) Aft (white) masthead light (also called range light): Aloft on the mast of the aft pilothouse. Same scope. Stern (white) light: visible for 45 degrees on either side of the CL from the stern. If the stern light is visible, no other running lights should be visible--the others should pretty much disappear at the same time the stern light comes into view. And the stern light should disappear when the others com into view. There's the long, dry, boring version. Oh, and for a vessel of this size, these are mandatory, not optional. The two all-around white lights on the mastheads went away some decades ago; the lighting exhibited on all WSF vessels is in compliance with international Collision Avoidance Regulations (Puget Sound is governed by international rules rather than inland, presumably due to its status as an internationally serviced port).
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 13, 2012 16:50:44 GMT -8
I hope someone might be willing to fill me in regarding the fore and aft white running lights used on the Kaleetan; I’m trying to get them right on the pilotable Kaleetan model for flight simulators. I know where the lights are located, but I don’t know for sure which ones are lit while underway, and the angles at which they can be seen. For example, there are two while lights near the top of each mast, one on the forward side, on the aft.
And are any of the white lights turned off while at the slip? I’ll bet Steve knows!
Larry Aw, now you're gonna make me look... I hope the Hyak's configured the same way... If you're referring to the two lights that sit upon each other, they actually both face the same way. The lower one's the spare in case the upper burns out and nobody can get up to change it in the dark.
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Post by lar on Nov 14, 2012 12:00:16 GMT -8
Thank you so much Barnacle! But it looks like I mis-stated -- got it wrong that is. :-) I'll try to post a close-up of the top of the mast on the Kaleetan later. It appeared to me that at the top of each mast is what looked like a 360 degree single light, and about a foot below on the aft side of the mast (aiming towards amidships) there is a Perko double white light that looked like it had about a 200+ degree visibility arc. Somewhat like this: www.perko.com/catalog/category/navigation_lights_over_20_meters/product/778/ (This one has a 225 degree visibility arc.) In addition there is a Perko double white light on the top of each pilothouse and another of the same just below the pilothouse (at the base of the railing), with all of these being on the centerline of the boat. That’s a lot of white running lights! And it's interesting to know that it's the bottom light of the double light that's the spare. So if I see the bottom one burning... :-) Larry
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Post by lar on Nov 14, 2012 16:31:43 GMT -8
Here's a link to several pics to illustrate. The last one might take a bit to load, but shows more detail. sdrv.ms/UEidD4Larry
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Nov 15, 2012 0:00:39 GMT -8
Figured I'd post this here. Taking a break from working on the virtual cockpit, I found myself taking the Kaleetan through Pole Pass in the San Juan Islands. Kinda impressive!
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Post by Kahloke on Nov 15, 2012 5:35:04 GMT -8
Figured I'd post this here. Taking a break from working on the virtual cockpit, I found myself taking the Kaleetan through Pole Pass in the San Juan Islands. Kinda impressive! Nice screenshot, Steve! I went looking through this thread for the photo that EGFleet posted of Kaleetan actually going through Pole Pass back in the 70's, but it looks like that link is broken now. Looking at that pass, it's hard to imagine any ferry going through there, but they did it.
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Post by lar on Nov 15, 2012 12:23:59 GMT -8
UNDERWAY LIGHTING: Port (red) running light. Visible from centerline (CL) for 135 degrees (45 degrees aft of beam) on port side (from operating pilothouse). Starboard (green) running light. Same drill, opposite side. Forward (white) masthead light: on CL, on forward pilothouse roof. Visible from CL to 45 degrees aft of the beam on both sides. (270 degrees total.) Aft (white) masthead light (also called range light): Aloft on the mast of the aft pilothouse. Same scope. Stern (white) light: visible for 45 degrees on either side of the CL from the stern. If the stern light is visible, no other running lights should be visible--the others should pretty much disappear at the same time the stern light comes into view. And the stern light should disappear when the others com into view. There's the long, dry, boring version. Oh, and for a vessel of this size, these are mandatory, not optional. The two all-around white lights on the mastheads went away some decades ago; the lighting exhibited on all WSF vessels is in compliance with international Collision Avoidance Regulations (Puget Sound is governed by international rules rather than inland, presumably due to its status as an internationally serviced port). Thank you Barnacle! Nothing like getting the information straight from the horse's mouth so to speak. :-) This is very helpful! The challenge now will be to see if I can figure out a way to properly show this in the simulator. In FSX lights are simply 2D displays, and the visibility range is basically set by the size of the light. The marine light effect has a size of about 1 to 1.5 meters diameter before it fades out to zero! So that would mean I would need substantial wings to restrict the visibility arc to the proper value… unless I can figure out some sort of trick solution. Larry
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Post by SolDuc on Nov 15, 2012 17:03:09 GMT -8
I was reading the old posts on this thread and people asked if there was some good shots of the Kaleetan listing. Here's one: Kaleetan Listing by BrasegaliWA, on Flickr
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 15, 2012 18:52:22 GMT -8
Thank you so much Barnacle! But it looks like I mis-stated -- got it wrong that is. :-) I'll try to post a close-up of the top of the mast on the Kaleetan later. It appeared to me that at the top of each mast is what looked like a 360 degree single light, I'll have to look at the Hyak or Yakima, if I can remember... though one should be an anchor light. Hmmm... That would be the "after masthead/range" light in the above description, lit only when the opposite pilothouse has the ball.... Forward masthead light, on the pilothouse OPPOSITE the illuminated "aft" masthead light... Stern light, lit on the same end as the aft masthead. Usually it's dark enough that you can't tell. ;D Sometimes it gets to be a real grumbling match as to who has to shinny up the mast and change the S.O.B. (silly old bulb for the sensitive ears and eyes). Thankfully we're slowly converting over to LED running lights (easy to spot; they actually cast visible shadows if you're on the boat in the adjacent slip) with a ten-year lifespan.
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Post by WettCoast on Nov 15, 2012 20:43:11 GMT -8
I was reading the old posts on this thread and people asked if there was some good shots of the Kaleetan listing. Here's one: Kaleetan Listing by BrasegaliWA, on Flickr No wonder there is a list. She appears to have the bow of a container ship parked on one of her pickle forks!
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Nov 15, 2012 21:45:41 GMT -8
The Kaleetan, having a list? I thought that was normal!
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Nov 15, 2012 23:02:33 GMT -8
And while we're on the subject of the Kaleetan, I had a chance to take a crossing on the ol' girl. First time in about a year. M.V. Kaleetan, Washington State Ferries by Loowit Imaging - Steve Rosenow, Photographer, on Flickr M.V. Kaleetan - Washington State Ferries by Loowit Imaging - Steve Rosenow, Photographer, on Flickr ^--- Taken while waiting in Bremerton. The entire main deck was packed on the 1:45 crossing out of Bremerton. M.V. Kaleetan, Washington State Ferries by Loowit Imaging - Steve Rosenow, Photographer, on Flickr The next four show the Kaleetan at dusk, from the upper gallery deck of the M.V. Kitsap. They also illustrate which lights are operative at night. M.V. Kaleetan, Washington State Ferries by Loowit Imaging - Steve Rosenow, Photographer, on Flickr M.V. Kaleetan, Washington State Ferries by Loowit Imaging - Steve Rosenow, Photographer, on Flickr M.V. Kaleetan, Washington State Ferries by Loowit Imaging - Steve Rosenow, Photographer, on Flickr M.V. Kaleetan, Washington State Ferries by Loowit Imaging - Steve Rosenow, Photographer, on Flickr I plan on asking permission from WSF in the next couple weeks to photograph the inside of the pilothouse for the virtual cockpit project
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 16, 2012 17:52:00 GMT -8
Thank you so much Barnacle! But it looks like I mis-stated -- got it wrong that is. :-) I'll try to post a close-up of the top of the mast on the Kaleetan later. It appeared to me that at the top of each mast is what looked like a 360 degree single light, I'll have to look at the Hyak or Yakima, if I can remember... though one should be an anchor light. Hmmm... I looked on the Hyak this morning and only saw a white all-around on one end (the #1 end). That is the anchor light, and very rarely used. I will try to remember to check the Yakima tomorrow for comparison (the Yak and Kaleetan should be identical).
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Post by SolDuc on Nov 18, 2012 21:16:38 GMT -8
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Post by chokai on Nov 18, 2012 23:21:46 GMT -8
My apartment had a small fire earlier tonight and while shooting the SFD putting it out (baseboard heater) I realized I had pictures of Kaleetan from this summer. These were taken from a small sailboat in Rich Passage. Kudos to the Kaleetan which despite having the right of way due to draft and marked lane slowed up and gave us extra room so we wouldn't have to slide off of our best point as we and several other boats raced to beat the tidal switch.
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