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Post by SolDuc on Jan 31, 2013 23:06:30 GMT -8
Was she pitching and rolling a little in the sound? On Monday there was moments where she really was, and some people even got scared enough to ask the crew what was happening. And the Inclinometer was not even moving an inch! When Barnacle said that most of those throughout the wsfleet are struck, I totally agree.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Feb 1, 2013 6:46:51 GMT -8
Was she pitching and rolling a little in the sound? On Monday there was moments where she really was, and some people even got scared enough to ask the crew what was happening. And the Inclinometer was not even moving an inch! When Barnacle said that most of those throughout the wsfleet are struck, I totally agree. Pitching and rolling is a normal characteristic of the Super Class, so people really shouldn't be too worried. Both of them had their moments, especially on the Hyak as we made our way into Rich Passage. It was foggy last night on the return crossing and visibility was less than two miles.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 1, 2013 6:50:53 GMT -8
Yay! First ever crossing on the Yakima! Felt great, and I tell ya, the paint job they did a year ago on this thing is superb in every aspect. I thought that you had completed your Super-Slam last year.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Feb 1, 2013 7:05:37 GMT -8
Yay! First ever crossing on the Yakima! Felt great, and I tell ya, the paint job they did a year ago on this thing is superb in every aspect. I thought that you had completed your Super-Slam last year. I did, photography-wise. I never got a chance to cross the Yakima due to me missing the boat (literally) and ended up on the Walla Walla instead. That was when the Walla Walla and Yakima were up at Kingston-Edmonds. That of course, led me to witness something on the Walla Walla that still gives me the shudders anytime I see that boat. My Super-Slam was completed when I photographed the Elwha up at Anacortes last September following my appearance at a local astronomy's star party at Bowman Bay not far from there.
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Post by SolDuc on Feb 1, 2013 15:06:49 GMT -8
Pitching and rolling is a normal characteristic of the Super Class, so people really shouldn't be too worried. Both of them had their moments, especially on the Hyak as we made our way into Rich Passage. It was foggy last night on the return crossing and visibility was less than two miles. Yes, it is definitely a characteristic of the Supers and I could see that regular riders did not react at all, but that irregular riders did. On my first crossing on the Yakima up in the San Juans last year, she was also rolling and pitching a little and my mother was like: "what? Seas are calm, why does she pitches and rolls so much?" My answer was just: "It's a Super, and Supers are like that".
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Post by compdude787 on Feb 1, 2013 15:45:09 GMT -8
I'm quite used to ferries getting tossed around by the waves in Puget Sound. More often than not, the times that I ride on the Edmonds-Kingston ferry are pretty windy days w/ a good amount of whitecaps on the water. In my opinion, it's a pretty open-water route. Puget Sound is pretty wide there, and it continues straight south for many miles, giving plenty of space for the wind to whip up. When I rode on the Kaleetan from Kingston to Edmonds in December, she was listing quite a bit the whole way across. I had never seen a boat list that much. Even the Puyallup and the Jumbos still get tossed around on windy days. Steve, what was it about the Walla Walla that gives you shudders every time you see that boat? If it was someone pewking, you don't need to tell me.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 1, 2013 16:49:20 GMT -8
Steve, what was it about the Walla Walla that gives you shudders every time you see that boat? If it was someone pewking, you don't need to tell me. Based on what I've discerned from the few times Steve has mentioned this, it was a passenger "polishing his own brass".
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Feb 1, 2013 17:03:24 GMT -8
Steve, what was it about the Walla Walla that gives you shudders every time you see that boat? If it was someone pewking, you don't need to tell me. Based on what I've discerned from the few times Steve has mentioned this, it was a passenger "polishing his own brass". Exactly. Right in the truck next to me as we were getting ready to dock. *shudders*
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2013 17:54:36 GMT -8
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Feb 1, 2013 18:07:08 GMT -8
That's the cover photo from Harre Demorro's book "The Evergreen Fleet"
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Post by compdude787 on Feb 1, 2013 21:09:53 GMT -8
Steve, what was it about the Walla Walla that gives you shudders every time you see that boat? If it was someone pewking, you don't need to tell me. Based on what I've discerned from the few times Steve has mentioned this, it was a passenger "polishing his own brass". Ohhh-kaay... I don't blame him for not wanting to go on that ferry anymore. Enough said! As for me, I still prefer the Walla Walla to the Spokane when I'm on the Edmonds-Kingston route; it has the nicest-looking interior of any WSF. I like the stained-glass; it looks modern and elegant. Yet the cabin layout of the Supers makes them another favorite of mine. I just like the fact that they have two indoor cabin decks!
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Post by compdude787 on Feb 1, 2013 21:24:16 GMT -8
Nice photo of both of those Super class ferries. It's also neat to see what the Seattle skyline looked like back then. Smith Tower sure looked taller than all the other buildings; now it's considered short!! In the top-right corner of the photo, you can see the I-5/I-90 interchange under construction. It's interesting to see that the Supers are as old as our freeways! (On parts of I-5, the concrete hasn't been replaced since it's been built)
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Feb 1, 2013 21:39:26 GMT -8
Based on what I've discerned from the few times Steve has mentioned this, it was a passenger "polishing his own brass". Ohhh-kaay... I don't blame him for not wanting to go on that ferry anymore. Enough said! As for me, I still prefer the Walla Walla to the Spokane when I'm on the Edmonds-Kingston route; it has the nicest-looking interior of any WSF. I like the stained-glass; it looks modern and elegant. Yet the cabin layout of the Supers makes them another favorite of mine. I just like the fact that they have two indoor cabin decks! Personally, I think the Spokane's color scheme makes it the nicest, at least of the Jumbos. It's been two years since I've been aboard her, though. As for the Supers, their split-level passenger cabin was modeled after the Kalakala's. As I understand it, the upper level passenger cabin's width on the Supers is just as wide as it is on the Kalakala, also.
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Post by SolDuc on Feb 1, 2013 22:08:01 GMT -8
And here are three similar shots comparing the Yakima and the KaleetanHyak:
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Feb 1, 2013 22:19:53 GMT -8
I believe the first one shows the Hyak and Yakima. Pilothouse windows and nameplates are the key.
As for the middle one, you shot them at opposing ends. The emergency generator rooms on all the Supers save for the Elwha are on No. 1 End, on the port side.
The last one, the one on the left, I think appears to be the upper wing of the Hyak on the port side. I say that because I recall the Hyak's upper wing decks on one side being badly warped near the cabin entryway with missing patches of paint and exposed steel.
Otherwise, they're pretty good comparisons. Zack (zargoman) did similar comparison shots a long time ago illustrating differences on all of them.
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Post by zargoman on Feb 1, 2013 22:22:02 GMT -8
I forgot how much that I like the Yakima. It is real neat to see the Hyak and Yakima together at the same place they started off in 1967/68. Here they are in Bremerton the other night.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Feb 1, 2013 22:24:49 GMT -8
I forgot how much that I like the Yakima. It is real neat to see the Hyak and Yakima together at the same place they started off in 1967/68. Here they are in Bremerton the other night. Welcome back to the forum, old friend!
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Post by zargoman on Feb 2, 2013 0:44:25 GMT -8
Other Yakima stuff Sitting at Colman Dock about to head to Bremerton On her way to Bremerton Home at Anacortes sometime in October
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Post by SolDuc on Feb 2, 2013 12:17:46 GMT -8
I believe the first one shows the Hyak and Yakima. Pilothouse windows and nameplates are the key. Oops. Meant the Hyak and the Yakima too much used to writing Kaleetan. Will fix my post. But I do count on making numerous comparisons of the supers car decks and of the various ships that visit Bremerton.
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Post by Northern Exploration on Feb 2, 2013 12:21:18 GMT -8
Steve, what was it about the Walla Walla that gives you shudders every time you see that boat? If it was someone pewking, you don't need to tell me. Based on what I've discerned from the few times Steve has mentioned this, it was a passenger "polishing his own brass". Gives a whole new meaning behind the forum member who proudly displays his shiny brasswork, and that maybe there is a secret to that skill we don't want to know about. I think I will leave now.
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Post by zargoman on Feb 2, 2013 18:25:22 GMT -8
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Post by compdude787 on Feb 2, 2013 22:05:55 GMT -8
Based on what I've discerned from the few times Steve has mentioned this, it was a passenger "polishing his own brass". Gives a whole new meaning behind the forum member who proudly displays his shiny brasswork, and that maybe there is a secret to that skill we don't want to know about. I think I will leave now. I don't think we need to talk about this anymore. I know, I brought it up, but.... enough said!
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Post by EGfleet on Feb 11, 2013 7:10:50 GMT -8
Pre-refurb Yakima postcard, back when she called Kingston-Edmonds home.
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Post by compdude787 on Feb 11, 2013 7:47:06 GMT -8
Cool, EGFleet!
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Post by SolDuc on Mar 2, 2013 18:56:54 GMT -8
A 2x sped up video of the Yakima rolling and pitching while entering Elliott Bay back on January 28th:
Yes, I know I had rain on my lens.
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