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Post by paulvanb on May 15, 2023 21:43:05 GMT -8
Judging from the poopoo show at Horseshoe Bay today, northing has changed. Boats were late, and no shortage of vehicle lineups at the ticket booths.
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Post by 1foot2ships on May 18, 2023 10:19:23 GMT -8
It is difficult to understand what is what. I am all for the 24 hour clock, it should be the only way when it comes to transportation schedules. I do just about anything that I have to print/type/file with YY-MM-DD dates, and 24h time. This way there is never any confusion. Plus, in case you have to do time or date math, this is the easiest format to do so without making errors!! But then again ..... why the heck would ANYONE every do ANYTHING the easy way!! this re-post was from another thread, very long time ago. i didnt ask for permission nor did i check if this is allowed. sorry mods, pls dont ban, but ive always wondered why also. how come BCF doesnt use this method of counting time? is it not almost standard everywhere except for english north america? regardless of location, dont most transportation, and hospitality type organisations do this as well? i recognise the 'dummy' demographic is only getting larger, so i would understand if they moved away from it, but afaik, theyve never used it.
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Post by Neil on May 19, 2023 17:39:02 GMT -8
The decision to expand service on route 30 has also led to the never before seen anomaly of route two having more service now, in spring, than it will in summer.
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Post by Departure Bay on Jun 23, 2023 11:49:26 GMT -8
Departure Bay - Horseshoe Bay has started summer service with two boats only. Let's see how this goes!
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Post by Neil on Jun 23, 2023 17:56:15 GMT -8
Departure Bay - Horseshoe Bay has started summer service with two boats only. Let's see how this goes! It won't go well- at least for route two passengers. Yesterday, I took the 11:05 am from Horseshoe Bay and the 6:15 back, and it was overloaded both ways. I chose route two because I was going with my Surrey based daughter to meet my Courtenay based daughter for an excursion to Newcastle Island. Very Nanaimo-centric, so that's the way we went. But I'm in White Rock, and it took ages to get to north Surrey and then Horseshoe Bay. Fact is: Vancouver is a big city, and years ago, people made the wise decision to forego a huge freeway system that would carve up neighborhoods. The downside to that is that you can't always get from one end of the metro area to another very quickly. People who advocate shutting down route two in favor of route thirty ignore geography and travel times. I don't think I'll do route two again- if time is a factor- and it would be crazy to expect someone in north Burnaby to do route thirty. The solution is a tricky juggling of vessels between the two. The immediate problem is that this summer's schedule perhaps represents a slight decrease in overall service. Last summer saw eight round trips on route thirty, and up to eleven some days on route two. This summer we have eight on route two, but only ten on route thirty. And, you can't possibly expect people who habitually use route two to suddenly say, okay, I see the change in service, I'll drive to Tsawwassen. BC Ferries has limitations with the fleet, and with crewing. Covid isn't a conscious factor with most people any more, so everyone is travelling. It's going to be a challenging summer for our marine carrier.
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 23, 2023 21:49:52 GMT -8
Departure Bay - Horseshoe Bay has started summer service with two boats only. Let's see how this goes! I am thinking its going to be a mess and not quite certain how BCFS justifies the change. For most users I believe route 2 is the better & shorter route. As Neil has said above the total number of crossings per day between the Lower Mainland & Nanaimo is actually being reduced. Further, two vessels (the Alberni & Coquitlam) are being under utilized, though this may be due primarily to crewing issues.
The chaos that I see coming may be a blessing for the new 'HULLO' ferry service if they can get it up & running before the summer is over.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jun 23, 2023 23:07:15 GMT -8
Only time will tell BC Ferries made the right decision with the different approach in serving the Nanaimo this summer, I personally think this could lead to better results for other operation coming to Duke Point because Regional District of Nanaimo Transit System, BC Transit, might make adding Duke Point bus super priority this year with BC Ferries trying to make the Tsawwassen to Duke Point the main route to Nanaimo from Metro Vancouver. I can see more service being to added to Queen of Alberni over the coming years if this goes well such as two shifts a day. I kinda prefer to Duke Point service as driver on more than Departure Bay route because driving you avoid the Downtown core of both cities. But as walk on Departure Bay is better because everything is just at Departure Bay which could easily be moved to Duke Point if BC Ferries puts pressure of bus transportation operators.
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Post by 1foot2ships on Jun 28, 2023 22:05:22 GMT -8
any of u guys see this?! somebody pls confirm/ correct my theory: - SVI is a victoria crew - pm shift starts at 1500 - their last arrival is supposed to be 2230 at SWB - therefore... this special addition has them doing a round trip on OT? Attachments:
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 29, 2023 9:45:32 GMT -8
any of u guys see this?! somebody pls confirm/ correct my theory: - SVI is a victoria crew - pm shift starts at 1500 - their last arrival is supposed to be 2230 at SWB - therefore... this special addition has them doing a round trip on OT? It might be OT, or perhaps extra crew who currently have no ship to sail (e.g. crew from the Coastal Celebration).
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Post by Ollie on Jul 3, 2023 12:32:48 GMT -8
The Kahloke is currently doing the Buckley Bay to Denman Island route with the Baynes Sound Connector, is this normal in the summer?
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Post by Neil on Jul 3, 2023 12:45:27 GMT -8
The Kahloke is currently doing the Buckley Bay to Denman Island route with the Baynes Sound Connector, is this normal in the summer? Ollie, you're going to have a detention for not paying attention in ferry fan class. BC Ferries announced the upgrade in service a few months ago, and it started a couple of weeks back. Monday to Friday, summer only.
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 10, 2023 18:33:25 GMT -8
Is it possible anymore to get old-fashioned schedules like we used to get on paper? A pdf version is quite okay with me.
I was trying to make sense of service between Port Hardy & Bella Coola for this summer but the 'schedules' offered up by BCFS make that a pain in the _______.
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Post by Starsteward on Jul 11, 2023 9:07:19 GMT -8
Is it possible anymore to get old-fashioned schedules like we used to get on paper? A pdf version is quite okay with me.
I was trying to make sense of service between Port Hardy & Bella Coola for this summer but the 'schedules' offered up by BCFS make that a pain in the _______. "Pat,........give me one...ah, make it two ess's please"
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Post by Neil on Jul 11, 2023 10:38:51 GMT -8
Is it possible anymore to get old-fashioned schedules like we used to get on paper? A pdf version is quite okay with me.
I was trying to make sense of service between Port Hardy & Bella Coola for this summer but the 'schedules' offered up by BCFS make that a pain in the _______. "Pat,........give me one...ah, make it two ess's please" I know. the format for the route schedule is ridiculous. "Not available on" appears beside every day, with half the dates actually excepted. If you look at the PDF version, the dates are all jumbled up. Apparently, it's too hard to simply print all the dates the ferry actually sails.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Aug 29, 2023 20:01:16 GMT -8
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Post by Ollie on Sept 1, 2023 21:36:17 GMT -8
Does Queen of New Westminster normally do route 30 if Queen of Alberni breaks or is having a refit?
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Sept 2, 2023 7:50:16 GMT -8
Does Queen of New Westminster normally do route 30 if Queen of Alberni breaks or is having a refit? That used to be the case before the Tsawwassen based route 30 crews were familiarized on the Coastals. Now it's usually a Coastal that relieves the Alberni, but if that's not possible due to vessel availability then the New West would have the honours. Looking ahead into late fall, the web site shows the Celebration doing relief duties but of course everything's up in the air right now until more is known about the repair timeline for the Renaissance.
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Post by Ollie on Oct 27, 2023 13:01:48 GMT -8
Is the Queen of Alberni usually based out of Tsawwassen? Earlier this year it was Nanaimo.
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Post by Ferryman on Oct 27, 2023 13:06:49 GMT -8
Is the Queen of Alberni usually based out of Tsawwassen? Earlier this year it was Nanaimo. These days, normally Tsawwassen is her home port. This summer was the second summer of her being reassigned to Nanaimo from late June until Thanksgiving. However, this year's assignment was cut short when the Coastal Renaissance broke down The Alberni has spent a decent amount of time home ported in Nanaimo in years past. For the first part of her life she wss based in Swartz Bay, followed by Langdale, and then Nanaimo. She served from Nanaimo from the late 1980s until 2008, when the Coastal Class entered service on Route 30. At that time in 2008, the Alberni was switched from being homeported in Duke Pt to being homeported in Tsawwassen as she is today
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 27, 2023 18:41:35 GMT -8
For the first part of her life she wss based in Swartz Bay ... Actually, she was based in Tsawwassen. A summer 1980 schedule is attached.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Oct 27, 2023 19:11:22 GMT -8
For the first part of her life she wss based in Swartz Bay ... Actually, she was based in Tsawwassen. A summer 1980 schedule is attached.
When Earls Cove to Salty Bay became 5 minutes longer? When did the route 2 become 1 hour 40 minutes? If Cowichan Class was able to reduce route 2 by 10 minutes, how come route 3 didn’t become 35 minutes instead of 40 minutes?
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Post by Dane on Oct 27, 2023 20:04:19 GMT -8
For the first part of her life she wss based in Swartz Bay ... Actually, she was based in Tsawwassen. A summer 1980 schedule is attached.
I'm assuming those 15 minute "offsets" on Route 1 are to avoid the two boats in Active Pass at the same time? I'm a little puzzled by that 1h50m crossing time on Route 2? Is that the sailing time for a V class (edit, in hindsight I think it would actually be Queen of Burnaby or Nanaimo??), whereas the Cowichan / Coquitlam at that time were probably at 1h35m? The two hour turn around for the #1 boats on both sides is indicative of a faster than published sailing time. That said, I wasn't alive in '80 but when I was young I was a somewhat regular Route 2 passenger and it would run wildly late because the schedule was unrealistic when busy.
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 27, 2023 21:54:16 GMT -8
Actually, she was based in Tsawwassen. A summer 1980 schedule is attached.
I'm assuming those 15 minute "offsets" on Route 1 are to avoid the two boats in Active Pass at the same time? I'm a little puzzled by that 1h50m crossing time on Route 2? Is that the sailing time for a V class (edit, in hindsight I think it would actually be Queen of Burnaby or Nanaimo??), whereas the Cowichan / Coquitlam at that time were probably at 1h35m? The two hour turn around for the #1 boats on both sides is indicative of a faster than published sailing time. That said, I wasn't alive in '80 but when I was young I was a somewhat regular Route 2 passenger and it would run wildly late because the schedule was unrealistic when busy. This was the year following the Alberni's grounding in Active Pass. They did two things to reduce vessel congestion in the Pass & to lessen the chance of accidents: One was the 15 minute delay on Swartz Bay based vessels, and the other was slowing the Alberni down by 5 minutes. The extra five was due to much reduced speed for the Alberni when transiting the Pass. As for the 110 minutes for route 2, that applied only to the B class vessel(s) working route 2. The C's would have been about 100 minutes.
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Post by princessofvanfan on Oct 28, 2023 21:42:28 GMT -8
I remember seeing the Alberni routing around the south ends of South Pender and Saturna rather than Active Pass after the accident.
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Post by Ollie on Dec 3, 2023 19:30:22 GMT -8
Does the Queen of Cumberland (route 5a) ever go to Long Harbour? I am certain that Mayne Queen did a Village Bay to Long Harbour route, I think it was on Fridays, or maybe it was on Saturdays or Sundays. I can't find it anywhere on the online fare calculator schedule.
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