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Post by Retrovision on Mar 3, 2005 17:28:46 GMT -8
Both the Kuleet and the Klatawa are out of service due to mechanical problems! Thank goodness for BC Ferries' support at times like this. The following was taken from Translink's website: Current Conditions Albion Ferry service is currently not operating due to mechanical problems with both of the two ferries. The following is from the Translink website: Repair crews are working hard to put one ferry back into service later this afternoon, but it's not certain when service will resume. Significant delays are expected to continue throughout the day. BC Ferries is supplying a replacement vessel, which will go into service later tonight, so it is expected that two vessels will be available for commuters on Friday Updates are published as soon as the information becomes available ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For updates, goto: translink.bc.ca/Transportation_Services/Cust_Alert/ |
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Post by Curtis on Mar 3, 2005 17:32:48 GMT -8
No offense but heres a tip if you want to put up a thing for the albion ferries cancelation put it in the Non BCF section
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Post by Retrovision on Mar 3, 2005 17:45:26 GMT -8
I though that it made sense to post under BC Ferries because the replacement vessel being put into service is from BC Ferries. I also posted under "Non - BC Ferries."
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 3, 2005 18:49:53 GMT -8
i thought the non BC F thing was for ferries outside BC
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 3, 2005 19:00:44 GMT -8
apparently it was the klitsa that was at deas, and apparantly they are moving her as we speak, the crew had to be airlifted from Thetis to come take her up, and apparently each ship had a myriad of problems. imcluding the kulleet having engine problems (fuel pump failure apparantly) and the klatawa was having steering control failures, so both vessels were hauled out for saftey measures.
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Post by Ferryman on Mar 3, 2005 19:30:56 GMT -8
Wow thats crazy how both of the ferries broke down at the same time today, and that they're getting the Klitsa from Deas by flying the crew from Thetis to do the Albion run.
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 3, 2005 19:55:52 GMT -8
not to do the run. just to take the ship from deas to albion
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Post by Koastal Karl on Mar 3, 2005 21:39:49 GMT -8
So is there going to be two ships running tommorrow, the klitsa and the which ever albion ferry they get running or is there just going to be the Klitsa running??
Couldent the Albion crew take the Klitsa?? I guess they could but seeing it's BC Ferries I guess that is why they want a BC Ferries crew to do it.
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 3, 2005 21:57:45 GMT -8
even when an albion crew would pick the boat up, the chief Engineer (guy named AJ) and the XO of the route (Capt Bill). would be required to make sure that people are not being stupid with someone eles boat
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Post by Ferryman on Mar 3, 2005 22:13:10 GMT -8
Yeah that makes sense, just to make sure they aren't going to operate it wrong and wreck it...even though they are all probably professionals, but still makes sense anyway.
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Post by Dane on Mar 3, 2005 23:01:56 GMT -8
The Albion crews, I would doubt, are qualified for the life saving equipment that's on most BC Ferries vessels.... while most of it's the same the salt water qualifiactions from TC are different.
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 4, 2005 7:54:49 GMT -8
they still require the same Certs, and they have the same vessel (klatawa, kahloke, Mayne Queen etc) and they have familiarity of them. so i would not see why they wouldn;t be able to run them
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Post by Dane on Mar 4, 2005 11:41:28 GMT -8
Transport Canada salt water certification is different than salt water/open water cert, the vessles would are are required to have different life saving equipment.
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 4, 2005 14:16:19 GMT -8
the Klitsa uses an older version of the livesaving chutes. but same principal, and same certs, all K class, have the same cert requirments
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Post by Doug on Mar 5, 2005 1:36:22 GMT -8
I was amazed when I heard both Albion Ferries were out of service. There's probably an average wait of three sailings, so having both vessels out must be hell. I might go down there tomorrow to get a look at the Klitsa and maybe take some pictures (only if she is still there). If someone knows she isn't there anymore I'd like to know. Thanks.
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Post by Curtis on Mar 5, 2005 9:36:38 GMT -8
The Mainland Ferries are in dark times right now
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 5, 2005 10:11:09 GMT -8
klitsa will be there for a couple of days, the kulleet fried her whole driving control board. so she was kinda minor, and when the klatawa got finished towing her back to the dock, abbout 6 hours later she sucked up one of her injectors.
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Post by Dane on Mar 5, 2005 18:29:16 GMT -8
the Klitsa uses an older version of the livesaving chutes. but same principal, and same certs, all K class, have the same cert requirments They are not the same certificates because it's the same equipment. Thats not how it works, at all.... |
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 6, 2005 10:01:56 GMT -8
plz explain. cause usually when the klitsa comes over, the albion crew goes over to pick her up, and only AJ, and Capt Bill are there to "Supervise"
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Post by Dane on Mar 6, 2005 17:18:29 GMT -8
When you operate on salt water you get an open water cert ( it comes in 2-3 forms I believe, eg/ Gulf Island ferries like the Cumb. can't operate to Tsawwassen and which is why the Mill Bay is also a ferry oddity in the BCF fleet)
The reaons are numerous. Weather on oceans is very different than things the Albion ferry crews will encounter, working with salt water rescue is also very different becauser there is more set standards (Canada is again an exception b/c of the Great Lakes where I blieve they have almost the same marine law as salt water vessels)
If the Klitsa, lets say, hypothetically, hit another vessel the BCF supervisory crew would have to be there to ensure that the equipment was properly used and such. The electronics and radio equipment must be very different between the ships...
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 6, 2005 17:53:12 GMT -8
not really. all 5 ships have similar equipment, with the difference being in how they are implimented, the klitsa kahloke and kwuna all have the old pod style life boats, with the kulleet and klatawa having aspecial life raft that has an inflatable chute, which allows for more people to be allowed on the ship. (look the next time your on the klatawa, the white boxes at opposite sides of the ship on the other side of the propellers are where they are. i have an old training video ill post here eventually
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Post by Dane on Mar 6, 2005 21:37:14 GMT -8
how they are implemented..... that is it.
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 6, 2005 21:53:06 GMT -8
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Post by Dane on Mar 7, 2005 0:02:55 GMT -8
It's the implementation, when things WOULD be used, WHY they would be used that differs. Thats why they have different certs. River currents add one element, but your close to shore. Oceans have their own things going on.
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 7, 2005 8:31:15 GMT -8
i think it all has to do if the insurace people come to ask BCF if they did all they could, and if they have people on board they can blame, then its all good.
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