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Post by WettCoast on Jan 10, 2009 9:23:31 GMT -8
I am sure I read somewhere on this forum that BCFS's $50+ million investment in the QoNWM is intended to allow her to provide an additional 10 years of service. That would put her retirement date somewhere around 2019, at the venerable age of 55. For those who love V's, that means ten more years in which to get your regular 'fix'.
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Post by Mike C on Jan 10, 2009 19:49:15 GMT -8
I am sure I read somewhere on this forum that BCFS's $50+ million investment in the QoNWM is intended to allow her to provide an additional 10 years of service. That would put her retirement date somewhere around 2019, at the venerable age of 55. For those who love V's, that means ten more years in which to get your regular 'fix'. 10 more years of farewell trips  |
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Post by ferrytraveller on Jan 10, 2009 22:41:29 GMT -8
well although we are a bit off topic now on this thread, the Tenaka will be the first of most likely 5-6 (60 AEQ) vessels built to replace the QQ2, Tachek, NIP and Nimpkish. These 5-6 AEQ vessels will allow the retirement of the K class vessels, due to them not being useful other then on route 20 and route 22 in the summer. It is time for route 22 to get a new full time minor vessel year round! 1 - 60 AEQ will be used as a refit/spare boat or for nothern service to replace the nimpkish.
The Powell river class and HSQ will all be replaced by Skeena vessels i think since the IS is a bit over kill for those routes.
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Post by gordon on Jan 12, 2009 10:07:25 GMT -8
A couple of months back there was a graphic showing retirements \replacements thru 2021(i think) Is that still available on the forum?
When are the Cs(inc the alberni planned for replacement?
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Post by Dane on Jan 13, 2009 11:34:28 GMT -8
2025-ish for the first three, depending on what you read.
So, in BC Ferries time, that'll be 2030-2035.
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Post by electrotech on Jan 13, 2009 16:01:14 GMT -8
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Post by Ferryman on Jan 26, 2009 20:47:35 GMT -8
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Post by Dane on Feb 9, 2009 23:23:03 GMT -8
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Post by DENelson83 on Feb 10, 2009 19:45:21 GMT -8
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 24, 2009 21:55:31 GMT -8
I was on the Coastal Celebration for the first time today, and I saw/heard the following:
1 - The shore end prop is now shut down when in the terminal. Have they been doing this for a while, or is this new, perhaps a means of dealing with the alleged erosion at the terminals. Perhaps this has always been the case and I was under an illusion.
2 - In Active Pass I heard the whistles of both the C-Cell and the New West. The whistle on the former sounds good and the latter seems to be repaired.
3 - I was told by a crew member that the C-Cell is using more fuel per round trip than that required for a Spirit class vessel. On the other hand improvements are coming along as the crews get more experienced with handling her.
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Post by crazyferrydude on Apr 25, 2009 5:37:25 GMT -8
1- That's always been the case. Once the ship is in the dock, it goes to mode one and the shore end prop shuts down and feathers. It only starts up again just before departure.
2- I agree the whistle of the c-cell sounds good. I'm glad they went with the type they did and not something like the spirits.
3- The spirits on average burn about 15-20% MORE fuel than the celebration does. Rumors of it's appetite for fuel are greatly exaggerated. In this case the crew member you were speaking to had false information.
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Post by FNS on Apr 25, 2009 12:59:17 GMT -8
1- That's always been the case. Once the ship is in the dock, it goes to mode one and the shore end prop shuts down and feathers. It only starts up again just before departure. 2- I agree the whistle of the c-cell sounds good. I'm glad they went with the type they did and not something like the spirits. 3- The spirits on average burn about 15-20% MORE fuel than the celebration does. Rumors of it's appetite for fuel are greatly exaggerated. In this case the crew member you were speaking to had false information. "crazyferrydude" I love that screen name of yours! I'm like you. A dude who is crazy about ferries. The same applies to our ISSAQUAH, KITTITAS, KITSAP, CATHLAMET, CHELAN, and SEALTH. The forward CP propeller is disengaged while in the dock. Only the aft propeller is turning to help keep the ferry firmly in the dock. Just before sailing, all propellers are turning and the trip begins. Here is a bit of neat information on other means of driving ferries: The VASHON had an engine that ran a constant direction. A giant handwheel engaged an independent drive shaft at each end. The station was located at the starboard side of the number two end and you faced port. You turn the wheel to the right and the number two end shaft is engaged. You turn the wheel to the left and the number two end shaft is disengaged and the number one end is engaged. The clutches were flywheels and their engagings were like a paper cup being inserted into another. A wrong way alarm was installed to warn you if you were setting the propellers improperly. A throttle set the speed, and both wheelhouse telegraphs were connected to one in the engine room. All viewable from the hatch on the car deck. The bow propeller was free to turn while the sea water flowed around the hull. The OLYMPIC and RHODODENDRON (prior to her rebuilding) had an engine arrangement that required constant starting and stopping. Their drive shafts were connected directly to the engine(s). When departing, the engine was stopped. The engine was cocked the other direction. A hiss could be heard as air was forced into the engine to start it again. Diesel-Electrics have generators that send electricity to a panel. A handwheel turns the electric drive shafts. You turn the wheel one direction, the propeller shafts would turn that direction. Turn the wheel the other direction and the propeller shafts will turn that direction. You can see this in the "Emergency!" episode "Most Deadly Passage", which was filmed in Seattle and aboard the KLICKITAT in her pre-steeled configuration. Most of this is now being done by sticks in the wheelhouses. There you have it. Some different ways of how ferries are run. |
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 29, 2009 22:00:08 GMT -8
Here are two in-service photos of the C-Cell. The first was taken on Jan 13, 2009 @ berth 5 Tsawwassen by my brother Mr DOT.  DOT photo ©The second photo is mine, taken from the QoNWM this past Sunday in Active Pass.  JST photo © |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2009 5:28:52 GMT -8
Nice Picture's. I especially like that one from the sun deck in active pass.
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on May 3, 2009 23:50:42 GMT -8
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Post by Koastal Karl on May 4, 2009 8:44:30 GMT -8
Nice shots. Me and Lisa were on the 6pm out of Tsawwassen. I think we saw you guys on the New West as we passed.
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Post by DENelson83 on May 4, 2009 9:40:45 GMT -8
Nothing like the CC being a pot of gold.
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 8, 2009 8:31:22 GMT -8
Chris Montgomery asks an interesting question on her Province Blog today, that I think some of us might have some insight on. It can apply to any of the 3 Coastal ships, so I put it on this thread, because it's a comparison to a Spirit: Chris is looking for feedback on this. Please post on her blog, in the comments section, for her piece entitled "Big Rigs, Big Questions" Here is the link: communities.canada.com/theprovince/blogs/onthewaterfront/archive/2009/05/08/big-rigs-big-questions.aspxShe's paying $100 for the best response......just kidding. ;D |
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Post by Ferryman on May 30, 2009 8:05:29 GMT -8
With the way things worked out last night with busy traffic for my commute home, I was on the 6pm Coastal Celebration to Swartz Bay last night.
After going back and forth on the Renaissance once or twice a week for the past month, it was a bit of a treat to go on Celebration and dine in the Buffet for once. The Celebrations part time duties that she was built to serve really show in her overall appearance with the interior. Freshly polished floors, still has that new ferry smell, and the stairway steps leading up from the car decks are still blue. Everything just seems so much cleaner, as if crews are working non stop when the ship is in dock to keep her nice and clean.
On the Renaissance however, she's getting pretty grungy. The steps from the car deck were once blue, and are now brown. The outer decks are getting the odd spot of rust, but the walls have different shades of white paint for patchwork.
Its been a while since I've been on the Inspiration, but I'm quite interested to find out what she's looking like right now, to compare how each of the ships are aging right now.
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Post by ferryfanyvr on May 30, 2009 21:07:10 GMT -8
I find your observations about the CC interesting because when I rode her 3 weeks ago, I thought she was getting kind of grungy-looking with scuffed floors, dirty stairs, etc. Maybe between that time and your trip, the cleaners have given her a really good going over to prepare her for her increased usage over the summer.
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Post by DENelson83 on May 30, 2009 21:36:45 GMT -8
And they should do the same thing with the Coastal Renaissance, as I read in another thread that her stairwells were really grungy.
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Post by Mirrlees on May 30, 2009 22:15:23 GMT -8
I was aboard C-Cel for the first time on Thursday and, I also agree that she's being kept very clean and tidy. Meanwhile on the Renaissance as noted above; at Easter her floors were getting pretty scuffed-up.
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Post by Dane on Jun 2, 2009 13:07:47 GMT -8
She (CC) also runs, generally, with a much larger crew than the CR...
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Post by Dane on Jun 5, 2009 8:32:05 GMT -8
Did a CC round trip the other day, took 16 minutes to dock at Swartz Bay. This has gone from being a humourous "they can't dock the ship" to a more irritating, clearly long term issue. I wonder what's at the root of it?
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Post by Mike C on Jun 5, 2009 11:44:29 GMT -8
Did a CC round trip the other day, took 16 minutes to dock at Swartz Bay. This has gone from being a humourous "they can't dock the ship" to a more irritating, clearly long term issue. I wonder what's at the root of it? Interesting. I was last on her on Saturday the 23rd, and I failed to notice a significant delay in docking procedures. I was on the 1400 out of Tsawwassen, what sailing were you on Dane? |
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