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Post by Ollie on Aug 26, 2024 23:34:15 GMT -8
Queen of New Westminster approaching Active Pass, 25 August 2024.
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Post by Ollie on Aug 27, 2024 19:04:42 GMT -8
Queen of New Westminster in Active Pass, today.
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Aug 29, 2024 17:21:54 GMT -8
I was pleasantly surprised to receive a letter in the mail from BC Ferries today. I had messaged several weeks back with a picture of me and my Queen of Nanaimo tattoo and the New West, hoping they might send me some goodies.
I received one of the 60th anniversary pins, a New West postcard, and a Spirit pen.
Can someone post a picture of the historical display by the gift shop?
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Post by pacificcat99 on Aug 29, 2024 21:45:15 GMT -8
I don't use flickr but have tried to attach a photo of the display to this post. I also added a few other pictures I took which include three boats in each. One in as we were leaving Swartz Bay with the Salish Raven and Queen of Cumberland in focus with the Coastal Celebration delayed 12:00pm sailing in the distance on her way. The other is as we arrived Tsawwassen with the Spirit and Coastal Celebration in Dock with the Coastal Renaissance to Duke Point departing. Hope you all enjoy.
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Post by Ollie on Aug 29, 2024 21:49:21 GMT -8
I don't use flickr but have tried to attach a photo of the display to this post. Enjoy. Something's wrong about that "inauguration" photo they chose... That's after lengthening!
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Post by anderpz on Aug 31, 2024 10:49:12 GMT -8
Hello! I've finally gotten all of my Queen of New Westminster 60th Birthday edition photos sorted. I hope you guys enjoy them! I got to go up on the bridge for the entire sailing, blow the whistle through Active Pass, and watch the whole docking process in Swartz Bay. 100% memories I won't forget! QoNW Going by on an earlier sailing. Taken from Pender Island. 20240816085302_IMG_7797 by Andrew Glen, on Flickr The classic funnel shot. 20240816144241_IMG_7942 by Andrew Glen, on Flickr The view towards the stern from the Starboard bridge wing. The visibility is MUCH better than I expected it to be! 20240816144115_IMG_7939 by Andrew Glen, on Flickr 60 Years of Service flag. 20240816142505_IMG_7924 by Andrew Glen, on Flickr 60 Years flag again from the bridge, pull cord in the foreground. 20240816143333_IMG_7928 by Andrew Glen, on Flickr Wearing a birthday hat in style! IMG_20240816_145524004_HDR by Andrew Glen, on Flickr Coming into Swartz Bay. IMG_20240816_153331443 by Andrew Glen, on Flickr IMG_20240816_153436934 by Andrew Glen, on Flickr Tying up. IMG_20240816_153755988 by Andrew Glen, on Flickr Happy 60th Birthday!
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Post by Ollie on Aug 31, 2024 20:55:34 GMT -8
Queen of New Westminster in Active Pass, today.
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Post by Ollie on Sept 1, 2024 20:59:09 GMT -8
Queen of New Westminster entering Active Pass at night, today.
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Post by QoNW Fan on Sept 1, 2024 22:22:45 GMT -8
Hello! I've finally gotten all of my Queen of New Westminster 60th Birthday edition photos sorted. I hope you guys enjoy them! I got to go up on the bridge for the entire sailing, blow the whistle through Active Pass, and watch the whole docking process in Swartz Bay. 100% memories I won't forget! QoNW Going by on an earlier sailing. Taken from Pender Island. Happy 60th Birthday! Awesome!! Congrats!! Super happy for you, there are only so many times they let people visit the bridge, so it's rare to get a chance!
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Post by Dane on Sept 3, 2024 17:20:31 GMT -8
QoNW out for at least five days for an engine issue. I'm sure we will know more soon.
This morning the issue must have materialized on the 6am Tsawwassen -} Swartz Bay sailing, which was completed. Then around 530pm QoNW was able to leave Swartz Bay and is returning to Tsawwassen via the South of the Gulf Islands route, about half way "home" when I posted this.
Made for an interesting operational day (delays delays delays!) on account of berth congestion at both Swartz Bay & Tsawwassen.
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Post by Ollie on Sept 3, 2024 17:28:03 GMT -8
QoNW out for at least five days for an engine issue. I'm sure we will know more soon. This morning the issue must have materialized on the 6am Tsawwassen -} Swartz Bay sailing, which was completed. Then around 530pm QoNW was able to leave Swartz Bay and is returning to Tsawwassen via the South of the Gulf Islands route, about half way "home" when I posted this. Made for an interesting operational day (delays delays delays!) on account of berth congestion at both Swartz Bay & Tsawwassen. If the New Westminster is capable of going at 17 knots around Saturna from Swartz to Tsawwassen, why can't they just operate it like a broken Coastal?
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Post by Mike on Sept 3, 2024 17:50:34 GMT -8
QoNW out for at least five days for an engine issue. I'm sure we will know more soon. This morning the issue must have materialized on the 6am Tsawwassen -} Swartz Bay sailing, which was completed. Then around 530pm QoNW was able to leave Swartz Bay and is returning to Tsawwassen via the South of the Gulf Islands route, about half way "home" when I posted this. Made for an interesting operational day (delays delays delays!) on account of berth congestion at both Swartz Bay & Tsawwassen. If the New Westminster is capable of going at 17 knots around Saturna from Swartz to Tsawwassen, why can't they just operate it like a broken Coastal? Because it's propulsion set up isn't the same as a Coastal?
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Post by Ollie on Sept 3, 2024 18:02:17 GMT -8
If the New Westminster is capable of going at 17 knots around Saturna from Swartz to Tsawwassen, why can't they just operate it like a broken Coastal? Because it's propulsion set up isn't the same as a Coastal? What I meant was a longer 2hr schedule going around Saturna as to not slow down other ferries in Active Pass. The service notice describes it as a "main engine issue", but I don't see why it couldn't just run on one propeller with two of the four engines operational.
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Post by Dane on Sept 3, 2024 19:01:47 GMT -8
We have no idea what's wrong with the QoNW on team ferry fan... However when I read "main engine issue" I can appreciate the desire to skip out on a strong tidal flow prone narrow channel filled with significant traffic in exchange for twenty extra minutes.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Sept 3, 2024 20:40:38 GMT -8
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Post by Ollie on Sept 3, 2024 22:02:10 GMT -8
If the Queen of New Westminster does get drydocked, would it most likely go to the Esquimalt Drydock or the North Vancouver Drydock? I know it typically does Esquimalt, but there is another ship in Esquimalt right now.
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Post by Ollie on Sept 5, 2024 15:17:34 GMT -8
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Post by Mike C on Sept 5, 2024 15:33:56 GMT -8
This news release was quite a ride and worth unpacking. Notable elements included (leaving out the propellor shearing incident, which itself is quite an event): - Uses mechanical issue to announce the official kickoff of refit season (I think this is a first - party at my place!) - Once again emphasizes the age of the QNW, to… lower expectations? - Also (incorrectly) mentions the ages of the Alberni, Cowichan and Coquitlam and notes they are going through refit this year as well Including the age thing is an interesting choice. I’m a strong believer in asset management that includes renewal of the fleet, and the major fleet feels like it’s in a precarious state and requires new ships. But it really fails to capture the fact that the bulk of the major fleet problems from the last year stemmed from the Coastals, which to my understanding, will have more work done this year. Anyway - QNW is now out until Sept 30, and with no spare vessels on hand, the sailings have been canceled.
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Post by dave2 on Sept 5, 2024 16:30:17 GMT -8
This news release was quite a ride and worth unpacking. Notable elements included (leaving out the propellor shearing incident, which itself is quite an event): - Uses mechanical issue to announce the official kickoff of refit season (I think this is a first - party at my place!) - Once again emphasizes the age of the QNW, to… lower expectations? - Also (incorrectly) mentions the ages of the Alberni, Cowichan and Coquitlam and notes they are going through refit this year as well Including the age thing is an interesting choice. I’m a strong believer in asset management that includes renewal of the fleet, and the major fleet feels like it’s in a precarious state and requires new ships. But it really fails to capture the fact that the bulk of the major fleet problems from the last year stemmed from the Coastals, which to my understanding, will have more work done this year. Anyway - QNW is now out until Sept 30, and with no spare vessels on hand, the sailings have been canceled. “the 53-year-old Queen of Alberni, 54-year-old Queen of Coquitlam, and 55-year-old Queen of Cowichan” This is more incorrect than I imagined. Aren’t all three the same age (48, entering service in 1976)?
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Post by WettCoast on Sept 5, 2024 16:53:26 GMT -8
This news release was quite a ride and worth unpacking. Notable elements included (leaving out the propellor shearing incident, which itself is quite an event): - Uses mechanical issue to announce the official kickoff of refit season (I think this is a first - party at my place!) - Once again emphasizes the age of the QNW, to… lower expectations? - Also (incorrectly) mentions the ages of the Alberni, Cowichan and Coquitlam and notes they are going through refit this year as well Including the age thing is an interesting choice. I’m a strong believer in asset management that includes renewal of the fleet, and the major fleet feels like it’s in a precarious state and requires new ships. But it really fails to capture the fact that the bulk of the major fleet problems from the last year stemmed from the Coastals, which to my understanding, will have more work done this year. Anyway - QNW is now out until Sept 30, and with no spare vessels on hand, the sailings have been canceled. “the 53-year-old Queen of Alberni, 54-year-old Queen of Coquitlam, and 55-year-old Queen of Cowichan” This is more incorrect than I imagined. Aren’t all three the same age (48, entering service in 1976)? You are absolutely correct. All 3 entered service in 1996 1976.
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Post by timmyc on Sept 5, 2024 19:25:10 GMT -8
Accuracy of the age(s) aside, its mention is likely to remind readers why they need to emphasis speed of replacement in their pathway for the major vessel replacements and not entertain alternative paths that would sacrifice speed for other factors (e.g. Canadian jobs).
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Sept 5, 2024 20:25:47 GMT -8
“the 53-year-old Queen of Alberni, 54-year-old Queen of Coquitlam, and 55-year-old Queen of Cowichan” This is more incorrect than I imagined. Aren’t all three the same age (48, entering service in 1976)? You are absolutely correct. All 3 entered service in 1996. It's almost as if they were using the ages the ships will be at the time of their planned retirement. If they were all built in 1976 and are being retired 1 per year starting in 2029 then this would be the case.
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Post by WettCoast on Sept 5, 2024 20:36:13 GMT -8
Accuracy of the age(s) aside, its mention is likely to remind readers why they need to emphasis speed of replacement in their pathway for the major vessel replacements and not entertain alternative paths that would sacrifice speed for other factors (e.g. Canadian jobs). I can go along with that, but then why do they need 5 years from now to bring us the first new one?
They could just as well have talked about the problems experienced over the last couple of years with the less than 20 year old Coastal class vessels. If you were to statistically analyze breakdowns versus age among the 13 major vessels (including the NorAd & NorEx) it just might show the older vessels are as reliable as the newer ones.
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Post by timmyc on Sept 6, 2024 10:04:33 GMT -8
Accuracy of the age(s) aside, its mention is likely to remind readers why they need to emphasis speed of replacement in their pathway for the major vessel replacements and not entertain alternative paths that would sacrifice speed for other factors (e.g. Canadian jobs). but then why do they need 5 years from now to bring us the first new one?
How long do you think it takes to procure and put into service a modern ferry? It's not just the construction time. RfP goes out later this year, the companies need to write and submit their responses, then BCF has to analyze them to determine a winner, then additional design will need to be done to incorporate BCF requirements (or updated regulatory reqs), then construction can start, then you do builder's trials, then BCF's own trials and crew training, then some stress tests, then finally you can say they're "in service". 5 years is ambitious, given all that.
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Post by WettCoast on Sept 6, 2024 10:42:39 GMT -8
but then why do they need 5 years from now to bring us the first new one?
How long do you think it takes to procure and put into service a modern ferry? It's not just the construction time. RfP goes out later this year, the companies need to write and submit their responses, then BCF has to analyze them to determine a winner, then additional design will need to be done to incorporate BCF requirements (or updated regulatory reqs), then construction can start, then you do builder's trials, then BCF's own trials and crew training, then some stress tests, then finally you can say they're "in service". 5 years is ambitious, given all that. They have already been at it for how long? Its not as if they are starting the procedure today. I know its not 1960 but WAC Bennett had not only new 2 new vessels, but 2 new terminals too, up and running in just two years. There is some urgency on this file.
Here's a quote from 2017 (from the thread titled " Major Route Newbuilds ('C's/QoNW) - Proposal/Design" A new thread for the next, yet to be announced, round of BC Ferries vessel replacements. The recent chart (presented at a 2017 ferry operators conference) lists the years 2022-2024 as the time to replace: - Queen of New Westminster - Queens of Cowichan & Coquitlam - Queen of Alberni That's just 4 years away. So this thread can be used for speculation and then reaction as newbuild process details eventually get announced.
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