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Post by Cascadian Transport on Feb 18, 2016 21:31:30 GMT -8
Will Tenaka ever see service again, or are her days numbered? Will I get a chance to ride her, before BCF disposes of her?
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Post by Neil on Feb 18, 2016 23:00:50 GMT -8
Will Tenaka ever see service again, or are her days numbered? Will I get a chance to ride her, before BCF disposes of her? The 52 year old Tenaka has issues- expensive ones- involved with gaining further TC certification, and with BC Ferries now having Quinitsa freed up for relief service, she's probably done. Keeping her would mean expanding the fleet by one vessel, and that doesn't seem to be in the cards.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 23:31:07 GMT -8
Will Tenaka ever see service again, or are her days numbered? Will I get a chance to ride her, before BCF disposes of her? The 52 year old Tenaka has issues- expensive ones- involved with gaining further TC certification, and with BC Ferries now having Quinitsa freed up for relief service, she's probably done. Keeping her would mean expanding the fleet by one vessel, and that doesn't seem to be in the cards. The fleet has actually gone down to 34 since the disposal of the 'Chilliwack, and I would suspect that this number will not change with the arrival of the third Salish, unless they want to keep the Bowen Queen tied up for most of the year.
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Post by Neil on Feb 18, 2016 23:48:27 GMT -8
The 52 year old Tenaka has issues- expensive ones- involved with gaining further TC certification, and with BC Ferries now having Quinitsa freed up for relief service, she's probably done. Keeping her would mean expanding the fleet by one vessel, and that doesn't seem to be in the cards. The fleet has actually gone down to 34 since the disposal of the 'Chilliwack, and I would suspect that this number will not change with the arrival of the third Salish, unless they want to keep the Bowen Queen tied up for most of the year. Numbers will, in the end, remain the same. We'll have retired the Tenaka, 'Chilliwack, 'Burnaby, and ' Nanaimo, and added the barge and the three Salish vessels.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 10:22:48 GMT -8
The fleet has actually gone down to 34 since the disposal of the 'Chilliwack, and I would suspect that this number will not change with the arrival of the third Salish, unless they want to keep the Bowen Queen tied up for most of the year. Numbers will, in the end, remain the same. We'll have retired the Tenaka, 'Chilliwack, 'Burnaby, and ' Nanaimo, and added the barge and the three Salish vessels. The Bowen Queen is supposed to be retired be retired as well, either officially or just kept tied up like the Tenaka is currently. BC Ferries has also mentioned in various reports that they have a fleet of 34 - down from the previous 35. Though if you count Tenaka, there's still 35 vessels.
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Post by Neil on Feb 19, 2016 10:58:48 GMT -8
Numbers will, in the end, remain the same. We'll have retired the Tenaka, 'Chilliwack, 'Burnaby, and ' Nanaimo, and added the barge and the three Salish vessels. The Bowen Queen is supposed to be retired be retired as well, either officially or just kept tied up like the Tenaka is currently. BC Ferries has also mentioned in various reports that they have a fleet of 34 - down from the previous 35. Though if you count Tenaka, there's still 35 vessels. I disagree. I don't think there's any way the Bowen Queen will be retired until another vessel is added to the fleet. Quinitsa is simply not big enough to fill in at Gabriola, Vesuvius, Quadra, Bowen or Fulford.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 11:14:47 GMT -8
The Bowen Queen is supposed to be retired be retired as well, either officially or just kept tied up like the Tenaka is currently. BC Ferries has also mentioned in various reports that they have a fleet of 34 - down from the previous 35. Though if you count Tenaka, there's still 35 vessels. I disagree. I don't think there's any way the Bowen Queen will be retired until another vessel is added to the fleet. Quinitsa is simply not big enough to fill in at Gabriola, Vesuvius, Quadra, Bowen or Fulford. Quinitsa will be the minor orphan, but Skeena Queen is going to be the Bowen Queen's direct replacement (the "Intermediate" orphan) - remember those dock tests in Powell River & Campbell River? The Skeena would only be on route 4 when the Salish Raven is doing refit relief on 9 & 17, or is on route 9A. At other times, the Raven is slated to be on route 4. This makes sense because in the off-season two Salishes would be based on SSI.
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Post by Neil on Feb 19, 2016 12:07:19 GMT -8
They could shuttle Quinitsa on the Quadra and Gabriola runs? Unlike the short Hornby and Denman runs, there's no down time on the Gabriola schedule, plus, Quinitsa is slower than the Quinsam. There's a bit more dock time at Quadra, but it's a pretty busy run- both timing and capacity would be a real issue.
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Post by northwesterner on Feb 19, 2016 15:28:49 GMT -8
Quinitsa will be the minor orphan, but Skeena Queen is going to be the Bowen Queen's direct replacement (the "Intermediate" orphan) - remember those dock tests in Powell River & Campbell River? The Skeena would only be on route 4 when the Salish Raven is doing refit relief on 9 & 17, or is on route 9A. At other times, the Raven is slated to be on route 4. This makes sense because in the off-season two Salishes would be based on SSI. Don't we think its a bit early to figure out what the long term vessel assignments and service patterns will be? BCF has not completed their schedule rework of the Southern Gulf Islands route families. Phase 3 of the process is supposed to be released before the end of this month. One thing that was unclear in both Phase 1 and 2 was how the vessels are supposed to "flow" through the schedules. Additionally, unless I'm missing something, the Salish class will require a non-insignificant amount of crew above and beyond what the Skeena Queen does to operate (in line with larger passenger spaces, etc). This could lead to a labor mismatch at the Salt Spring domicile based on seasonality (with winter requiring more crew). Given the troubles seen recently with capacity on the Earls Bay - Saltery Cove route when the Island Sky is not present, and the lack of another suitable vessel of that size in the fleet, it appears that there is more than enough work doing refit relief for the third Salish vessel in the offseason.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 16:54:04 GMT -8
Quinitsa will be the minor orphan, but Skeena Queen is going to be the Bowen Queen's direct replacement (the "Intermediate" orphan) - remember those dock tests in Powell River & Campbell River? The Skeena would only be on route 4 when the Salish Raven is doing refit relief on 9 & 17, or is on route 9A. At other times, the Raven is slated to be on route 4. This makes sense because in the off-season two Salishes would be based on SSI. Don't we think its a bit early to figure out what the long term vessel assignments and service patterns will be? BCF has not completed their schedule rework of the Southern Gulf Islands route families. Phase 3 of the process is supposed to be released before the end of this month. One thing that was unclear in both Phase 1 and 2 was how the vessels are supposed to "flow" through the schedules. Additionally, unless I'm missing something, the Salish class will require a non-insignificant amount of crew above and beyond what the Skeena Queen does to operate (in line with larger passenger spaces, etc). No it is not too early to speculate, based on positions that have been shuffled on Salt Spring, including some very specific ones. The Raven will be based at Fulford except for when she's on rte 9, 9A & 17. I understand she's a huge boat for rte 4, but that's the plan apparently. I would suspect the Skeena will get a snack bar during her MLU for relief on 7 & 8.
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Post by Neil on Feb 19, 2016 21:07:07 GMT -8
Don't we think its a bit early to figure out what the long term vessel assignments and service patterns will be? BCF has not completed their schedule rework of the Southern Gulf Islands route families. Phase 3 of the process is supposed to be released before the end of this month. One thing that was unclear in both Phase 1 and 2 was how the vessels are supposed to "flow" through the schedules. Additionally, unless I'm missing something, the Salish class will require a non-insignificant amount of crew above and beyond what the Skeena Queen does to operate (in line with larger passenger spaces, etc). No it is not too early to speculate, based on positions that have been shuffled on Salt Spring, including some very specific ones. The Raven will be based at Fulford except for when she's on rte 9, 9A & 17. I understand she's a huge boat for rte 4, but that's the plan apparently. I would suspect the Skeena will get a snack bar during her MLU for relief on 7 & 8. Where are you getting your information from?
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Post by bigcountry on Feb 20, 2016 9:28:29 GMT -8
No it is not too early to speculate, based on positions that have been shuffled on Salt Spring, including some very specific ones. The Raven will be based at Fulford except for when she's on rte 9, 9A & 17. I understand she's a huge boat for rte 4, but that's the plan apparently. I would suspect the Skeena will get a snack bar during her MLU for relief on 7 & 8. Where are you getting your information from? Better yet, how/where would they put a snack bar on the Skeena Queen???
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Feb 20, 2016 9:34:43 GMT -8
Better yet, how/where would they put a snack bar on the Skeena Queen??? I think they could convert one of the car deck lounges into a snack bar if they really wanted to...
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Post by Koastal Karl on Feb 20, 2016 9:35:44 GMT -8
They probably would put a snack bar in one of the lounges! The inland ferry Osprey 2000 is sort of the same design as the Skeena and she has a coffee shop onboard in one of the passenger areas!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 9:21:12 GMT -8
Well guys, it's official. The Tenaka is being retired. Per this sale listing on the "Business Opportunities" page: Now we can start talking about the last time we each went aboard.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 26, 2016 10:02:12 GMT -8
Well guys, it's official. The Tenaka is being retired. Per this sale listing on the "Business Opportunities" page: Now we can start talking about the last time we each went aboard. Thanks for spotting and sharing that. Bids close in mid March 2016.
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Post by roeco on Feb 27, 2016 10:40:55 GMT -8
I assume the Tenaka because she can not get TC certification then she cant be used for carrying passengers., what is wrong with her she cant get TC cert...and will it affrect her any other ways, But I think she would make a decent live aboard vessel for a good size family.Ive been checkin It out and u could have some decent outdoor space, Hot Tub, Huge bedrooms with ocean views...Massive living room, dining room, games area, kitchen, turn one of the washrooms into a shower/laundry room. And you could move her all the time and not stay in one spot. In 2007 she had a new gen set,and steel replaced....In 2013 she had a new sewage holding tank,new fire detection system,new anchors and bridge electronics... However I don't think she will sell for a great deal. Id say maybe she might fetch 150,000 or so.
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Post by northwesterner on Feb 27, 2016 11:18:44 GMT -8
I assume the Tenaka because she can not get TC certification then she cant be used for carrying passengers., what is wrong with her she cant get TC cert...and will it affrect her any other ways, But I think she would make a decent live aboard vessel for a good size family.Ive been checkin It out and u could have some decent outdoor space, Hot Tub, Huge bedrooms with ocean views...Massive living room, dining room, games area, kitchen, turn one of the washrooms into a shower/laundry room. And you could move her all the time and not stay in one spot. In 2007 she had a new gen set,and steel replaced....In 2013 she had a new sewage holding tank,new fire detection system,new anchors and bridge electronics... However I don't think she will sell for a great deal. Id say maybe she might fetch 150,000 or so. Unless you are a bazillionaire, a retired commercial vessel like a ferry will never make a good recreational live-aboard. The fuel bill alone will literally eat you out of house and home. I know a handful of people who live on / have lived on retired tugboats in the Seattle area. They get away from the dock shockingly few times a year because the vessel is built for a totally different purpose than cruising, and the fuel usage is just insane.
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Post by roeco on Feb 27, 2016 14:37:51 GMT -8
Well if u had it moored someplace it would be an ideal live aboard vessel...if u hook up to shore power/water etc like most marinas do have. Don't need to move it a lot really!
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Post by Kahloke on Feb 27, 2016 16:32:37 GMT -8
Well if u had it moored someplace it would be an ideal live aboard vessel...if u hook up to shore power/water etc like most marinas do have. Don't need to move it a lot really! You could even go one step further and decommission the running gear, turning it into a very nice houseboat. No, you wouldn't be able to take it anywhere, but it would still be a very cool, and perhaps a little quirky, place to live. Like you stated, you would need to moor it somewhere where you can tap into shore power, water, sewer, etc. it would be like a house at that point.
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Post by EGfleet on Apr 11, 2016 9:12:46 GMT -8
...and sold. This arrived in my mailbox just now.
British Columbia Ferry Services Inc., 500 -1321 Blanshard Street, Victoria, BC V8W 0B7 Tel (250) 978 -1267 Fax (250) 978-1119 bcferries.com/bcfnews For Immediate Release 16-020 April 11, 2016
SURPLUS FERRY SOLD TO LOCAL B.C. COMPANY
VICTORIA — BC Ferries announced today the company has sold the 52 year-old MV Tenaka to Lady Rose Marine Services of Port Alberni, B.C. following a competitive bidding process.
The 43- metre MV Tenaka was built in 1964 at Victoria Machinery Depot , and accommodates 24 vehicles and 100 passengers and crew. The vessel primarily serviced the Quadra Island – Cortes Island route a nd last sailed in the fleet in December of 2014.
Lady Rose Marine Services will take possession of the vessel in mid-May and after they conduct a drydock and maintenance period, they intend to put the vessel into service by the end of this year, providing passenger and freight service from the Alberni Inlet.
“When retiring vessels from our fleet, our first preference is always to find a buyer who will use the ship for continued commercial operation so we are pleased that the MV Tenaka will continue to operate right here in British Columbia,” said Mark Wilson, BC Ferries’ Vice President of Engineering.
“Our company has been in business for over 70 years providing passenger and freight service from the Alberni Inlet to Bamfield and Ucluelet on the west coast of Vancouver Island,” said Mike Surrell, owner of Lady Rose Marine Services. “With the acquisition of the MV Tenaka, we will continue to be the biggest tourism operator in Port Alberni employing local staff and supporting local businesses.”
BC Ferries cannot disclose the price the company received for the MV Tenaka as two other ferries will be retired soon and offered for sale. The company needs to protect the competitive bid processes for those sales and maximize the price received for those ships. Under contract to the Province of British Columbia, BC Ferries is the service provider and is responsible for the delivery of safe, efficient and dependable ferry service along coastal British Columbia.
Media Contact:
BCFerries, Media Relations Victoria:(250) 978-1267
Lady Rose Marine Services Mike Surrell (250) 723-8313
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 11, 2016 9:18:33 GMT -8
...and sold. This arrived in my mailbox just now. I'm so very happy with this news. I'm really looking forward to riding this ship in future, under the Lady Rose Marine Services flag. What a great day.
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Post by Neil on Apr 11, 2016 9:42:50 GMT -8
Doesn't this mark the first time a BC Ferries vessel has ever been sold to continue passenger operations on our coast?
Maybe my favorite ferry. Great news indeed. Mr Horn... how do you think she'll compare with the Frances Barkley for overall passenger experience? I imagine they'll open up her long closed food service area.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 11, 2016 9:51:12 GMT -8
Doesn't this mark the first time a BC Ferries vessel has ever been sold to continue passenger operations on our coast?
Maybe my favorite ferry. Great news indeed. Mr Horn... how do you think she'll compare with the Frances Barkley for overall passenger experience? I imagine they'll open up her long closed food service area. Sechelt Queen might be the first, re her transfer from Dogwood Fleet to Ministry of Highways. ---------------- Considering that their galley and small-bar is already a popular item on the 'Barkley, I fully expect the same thing on Tenaka. I didn't get a chance to ask about design changes when I chatted with people back in late February, but I am assuming that there will be changes, unless Lady Rose Marine is looking at doing vehicle ro/ro, which I don't think they would be wanting to do. Maybe the two aft outside sundecks will be joined, covering over the center vehicle lane. And I can imagine the boom cranes at the bow. And hopefully there would be an outside aft stairway (sorry, "ladder") leading from current car deck to the upper outside decks. Otherwise those narrow Tenaka stairway passages will be bottle-neck problems, especially for the older passenger clientelle which is one of Lady Rose Marine's main tourism markets.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 11, 2016 10:09:44 GMT -8
Time to move this thread to the "Other BC Ferries" page.
I wonder Lady Rose Marine Services will keep the Tenaka name?
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