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Post by Quinsam on Jul 13, 2005 7:45:35 GMT -8
Well, a floating football stadium! ;D Quite impressive. Where did her close sister go? (Saltpring Q)
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 13, 2005 17:54:28 GMT -8
How could they possibly fit 50,000 seats on the Vesuvius Queen.
this must be a joke. This would be a good one for Apr.1st
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Post by NMcKay on Jul 13, 2005 22:01:58 GMT -8
Posted : Jan 3rd 2002
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Post by Balfour on Jul 13, 2005 22:03:46 GMT -8
That's the most rediculous thing I've ever heard!
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 14, 2005 8:21:24 GMT -8
They said deck expansion too in the article which would be the only way as you would never fit that many seats on it now! But I dont know if this is really true! Sounds like it though! Why would they say it if it wasent true. Who knows!
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Post by NMcKay on Jul 14, 2005 10:26:22 GMT -8
i bet it was part of a 50,000 Seat Stadium. where the stadium stretched onto the water, and the VSQ was part of the seating. cause you want to see 50,000 Seats? the closest i can think of is BC Place
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Post by kylefossett on Jul 14, 2005 20:45:15 GMT -8
bc place holds 50,000 people so the vesuvius queen must be part of it and not all of it
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 2, 2007 23:30:31 GMT -8
I've been doing some digging around on the internet, to find out some news on the "Elupina Uno" EX Vesuvius Queen. I've found a forum discussing a Ferry route to "Samana", down in the Dominican Republic. Apparently she has sank once already, so she's just doing passenger only service. They're working on building new docks for her for the time being anyway, so she'll be able to take cars again. www.dr1.com/forums/travel-directions/57835-advice-punta-cana-ferry.html
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Post by NMcKay on Dec 3, 2007 12:34:55 GMT -8
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Post by tom98250 on Feb 21, 2008 12:30:05 GMT -8
...has she been renamed the "African Queen...?"
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Post by Neil on Jan 1, 2009 16:53:19 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 1, 2009 17:19:46 GMT -8
re Neil's newspaper clipping:
- Neil's note says "88", but I'm guessing he was caught in a time-warp, as the ad says that the bids were to close in 1998. I'm not nit-picking (or YT-ing as some ferry fans say), but Neil's penned note is an interesting quirk to the keepsake. (or maybe it's a typo in the ad itself that's the quirk?)
- Capt. Jamie Marshall was with BC Ferries back in '98. I didn't realize he was with the Crown-Corp back then, I'd assumed he was a recent new-era addition.
- The ad doesn't identify the ship by name. Makes for a good puzzle for a ferryfan to solve (but not a jigsaw puzzle ;D).
Thanks for sharing that.
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Post by Neil on Jan 1, 2009 22:27:12 GMT -8
Good eyes, Mr Horn. I must have written the wrong date.
Before I posted that clipping, I checked the Cadieux/Griffiths book, and saw that the Vesuvius Queen was launched in 1950, and the Saltspring Queen in 1949, so I knew I had the right boat.
I don't believe either the Saltspring' or the Vesuvius' had much work in the last years of their BC Ferries service. The Saltspring' was displaced by the Howe Sound Queen on the Vesuvius run when the Queen of Capilano came on stream. I believe the Vesuvius' was one half of two boat service to Denman in the Expo summer of '86, but neither boat found steady work in their twilight years.
The Vesuvius Queen shares the distinction, with the Kuper, of being the only boat to ever have been both a lake and salt water ferry- as she started out on Okanagan, as the Lloyd Jones.
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Post by Dane on Jan 1, 2009 23:30:10 GMT -8
Klatawa and Kulleet too, albeit not BC Ferries... Either the Vesuvius Queen of the Saltspring Queen ended her career on the Albion ferry as the last "revenue" run, I'll check up on that in the next day or two to see which one it was.
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Post by Neil on Jan 1, 2009 23:39:54 GMT -8
Klatawa and Kulleet too, albeit not BC Ferries... Either the Vesuvius Queen of the Saltspring Queen ended her career on the Albion ferry as the last "revenue" run, I'll check up on that in the next day or two to see which one it was. I said lake and salt water; the k-barges don't qualify. Both the Saltspring' and Vesuvius' would seem to be good fits on the Albion run, with slightly higher capacities, but I don't believe either did any more than fill in service during refits.
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Post by Ferryman on Jan 1, 2009 23:47:34 GMT -8
I remember back to a few years ago, when Klatawa Teen posted a photo of the Vesuvius Queen being loaded up at the Maple Ridge dock. So I'd assume it was the Vesuvius Queen who spent her final day of service on the Albion route.
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Post by chinook2 on Jan 2, 2009 3:27:01 GMT -8
Seems to be a little disconnect on ship histories here.....
The Salty was the main ship on route 4 from 1961-1971, when Bowen Queen took over the run. Through remainder of the 1970s she was supplementary on Swartz Bay-Gulf Islands services in summer, and did various relief jobs in winter. From 1981-1985, BCFC had the use of Quinitsa for much of the year, and, as well as doing the second boat duties on rte.5, was often running to Fulford in the winter, freeing the Bowen to relieve PR class vessels. It would have been the Saltspring Queen running to Denman in 1986, since Vesuvius Queen was doing rte.6 at the time.
Between 1986-1992 the Salty was largely idle--route 5 had a year round 2nd boat by this time, but in the late 1980s it was Tenaka in summer, Nicola in winter. In the early 90s Tachek Year round. There was a surplus of minor vessels through these years, so the SQ's principal role was relieving Vesuvius. And filling in on Albion as required.
In late 1990 a major slide blocked the Squamish (Squamish word meaning Sea to Sky) Highway for an extended period. Along with Nicola, Saltspring Queen provided emergency ferry service between Horseshoe Bay and Darrell Bay (it has been stated that Vesuvius Queen performed these duties in other threads, but it was the Salty reference: BCFC annual report 1990-91).
Early in 1992, taking the SeaLink from Victoria to Van, spotted the Saltspring Queen on the way to Saturna, doing relief for MV Tachek.
Vesuvius Queen on the other hand, remained on the Crofton route till about 1993, when the HSQ took the route over. From then till her retirement in 1998 her main role at BCFC was to relieve the Howe Sound Queen; the Albion work was a bonus.........
Rode the Vesuvius once in 1992--lovely brasswork on her,,.amazing that her Vivians are still doing their thing......
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Post by Neil on Jan 2, 2009 11:40:10 GMT -8
Perhaps kerryssi, who worked in the Gulf Islands routes, can clear up the late life assignments of these boats.
Schedules from '83-'84 show the Saltspring Queen as the Crofton-Vesuvius boat, with the Vesuvius Queen doing supplementary work out of Swartz Bay. I'm assuming the Saltspring' stayed on that run until the Howe Sound Queen took over.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 2, 2009 16:21:50 GMT -8
Perhaps kerryssi, who worked in the Gulf Islands routes, can clear up the late life assignments of these boats. Schedules from '83-'84 show the Saltspring Queen as the Crofton-Vesuvius boat, with the Vesuvius Queen doing supplementary work out of Swartz Bay. I'm assuming the Saltspring' stayed on that run until the Howe Sound Queen took over. I remember taking the Vesuvius Queen on my first ever trip to SaltSpring, which was the Crofton-Vesuvius run in June 1991 (no, I don't remember what I had for lunch that day ;D).
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Post by chinook2 on Jan 2, 2009 17:39:04 GMT -8
The Salty definitely didn't stay on that run for too long--I suspect that prior to the addition of the Highways vessels to the fleet, they were swapping the two vessels on an annual basis to spread the service hours more equally. Post 1985, with a surplus of small vessels from the Highways merger, the Vesuvius was definitely the regular boat on rte. 6--it was always the ship in service when I rode the route in the late 80s and early 90s. The Salty was a true spare at this point--and as BCFC's own annual report from 1990-91 states, it was Salty with Nicola on the Horseshoe-Darrell Bay run
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Post by Neil on Jan 2, 2009 22:26:14 GMT -8
Well, okay then. Since I'm being mercilessly ganged up on, I'll have to defer to people who might actually have been there. I have to admit, I have very little first hand memory of southern Gulf Islands ferry travel twenty years ago.
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Post by chinook2 on Jan 3, 2009 0:52:33 GMT -8
No worries, one of the great things about being here is having several generations of ferry geeks together--we all have something to share, and to learn.
For instance, I knew nothing of either ships' relief work on the Albion run--last time I even travelled that route the T'Lagunna was still the main ship.
Two things stand out in my memories of the Vesuvius. One, that her minimal passenger amenities didn't really matter, since I was always in awe of her beautiful brass fittings. The other is that she and the Salty were the most homegrown vessels in the fleet, since they both were powered by Vivians, made in Richmond, BC. Along with British built Mirlees plants, and the Mill Bay's famous Gardiner, IMHO the best horsepower ever to turn a screw in our fleet.
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Post by Mill Bay on Jan 3, 2009 12:42:22 GMT -8
The Mill Bay's famous Gardiner, IMHO the best horsepower ever to turn a screw in our fleet. I propose a toast to the home-built Vivian's of the Salty and Vesuvius. We'll drink out of brass goblets of course. On the QPR trip we were told stories about the Saltspring Queen by Steve Pool who told us that when it rained they basically needed to put umbrellas over the radars as the wheelhouse roof leaked so badly, while the crew stood in full rain gear. And near the end of her life, the engineers were continually welding on extra tie-rods on because they were afraid that the whole wheelhouse might quickly go over the side. And then there was one captain who always rang the telegraphs back and forth with so much effort that the connecting links kept breaking and had to be rewired together... I believe he said they used paper clips. And he said the most fun thing with navigating these two was their synchronized rudders which meant that when you turned one of the wheels, both rudders turned at the same time at either end, but in opposite directions. And... hoo-ray for the Mill Bay and her ever reliable Gardiner!! ;D ;D. Pg 12 of historical photos thread. ferriesbc.proboards20.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=photos&thread=3082&page=12
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Post by oceaneer77 on Jan 5, 2009 23:07:20 GMT -8
Gardners Vivians and Mirrlees!!!
still more efficient than any of the new engines ,, go figure!
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Post by yvr on Jan 6, 2009 22:39:26 GMT -8
Oceaneer, you had better check your snail mail. I hear that Hahn is going to offer you the position of Fleet engine selector.
Seriously, the in depth knowledge you bring us is much appreciated. If only BCF's Engineering dept. had your skill set!
YVR
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