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Post by WettCoast on Nov 20, 2013 8:22:18 GMT -8
:|Has anyone ever wondered how the Suzy Q would have done on Horseshoe Bay-Nanaimo? Any ideas? I have read that the Suzy Q was a slow moving vessel, slow like the Wack. Well maybe not that slow... I don't think it would have been able to keep anything close to the route 2 schedule in effect at that time. Perhaps the old schedule guy can back me up (or refute my point) here. For more, see page 4 of this thread. |
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Post by Neil on Nov 20, 2013 21:55:24 GMT -8
I'll try this again, and even if the schedule is sideways for me, I'll leave it, as WCK said it looked right on his computer. Weird. (Not you, Jim.)
1972. If the SCQ did the Langdale route in 55 minutes, we might be looking at, at least, 2hrs, 15 mins if she was ever on route two, which she never was.
(edit: when I 'refreshed', it appeared right side up. Again, ...weird.
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Post by northwesterner on Nov 20, 2013 22:31:28 GMT -8
I'll try this again, and even if the schedule is sideways for me, I'll leave it, as WCK said it looked right on his computer. Weird. (Not you, Jim.)
1972. If the SCQ did the Langdale route in 55 minutes, we might be looking at, at least, 2hrs, 15 mins if she was ever on route two, which she never was.
(edit: when I 'refreshed', it appeared right side up. Again, ...weird.
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Post by FNS on Jan 13, 2014 10:48:17 GMT -8
Hi Neal, In this case, I got the date from A Ferry's Wake Usually I just stumble on things, like September 3 1963 Wildcat strike on the ferries, Federal Socreds split, President JFK warns Vietnam ...See page two too Hindsight eh? 80 days later...... David This is a good "blast from the past" video of the MV SUNSHINE COAST QUEEN.  This video showed a neat concept of converting this vessel to an "extended cabin" version of the original design of the QUEEN OF ALBERNI plus a third car deck. The Saloon Deck would have had a promenade all along the sides and solariums on the Sun Deck like the QOA had in her original state. I like the design of this upgrade this vessel would have had. She would have done well on the HSB-LAN run as a supplement to the QUEEN OF SURREY II. But, then, the hull condition would have been a factor besides her build date. As I said on another tread, WSF should have purchased her and temporarily rigged for use here in 1979 and 1980 after the Hood Canal Bridge sinking. Place her on the FAU-NVI-SOU run with the KLAHOWYA. Three Steel Electrics on the CLB-MUK run, OLY and RHODY on the PT-KEY run, the KULSHAN at TAH, and the HIYU on a SOU-NVI shuttle. I would have kept her here until all six of the then new I-Class ferries have entered service. Wishful thinking. Thanks for this blast from the past! |
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Post by Mill Bay on Jan 13, 2014 20:53:08 GMT -8
This is a good "blast from the past" video of the MV SUNSHINE COAST QUEEN. This video showed a neat concept of converting this vessel to an "extended cabin" version of the original design of the QUEEN OF ALBERNI plus a third car deck. The Saloon Deck would have had a promenade all along the sides and solariums on the Sun Deck like the QOA had in her original state. I like the design of this upgrade this vessel would have had. She would have done well on the HSB-LAN run as a supplement to the QUEEN OF SURREY II. But, then, the hull condition would have been a factor besides her build date. As I said on another tread, WSF should have purchased her and temporarily rigged for use here in 1979 and 1980 after the Hood Canal Bridge sinking. Place her on the FAU-NVI-SOU run with the KLAHOWYA. Three Steel Electrics on the CLB-MUK run, OLY and RHODY on the PT-KEY run, the KULSHAN at TAH, and the HIYU on a SOU-NVI shuttle. I would have kept her here until all six of the then new I-Class ferries have entered service. Wishful thinking. Thanks for this blast from the past! I've seen the video a couple of times, but I can't recall seeing that particular picture, but it seems to me that it isn't really a concept for the SUNSHINE COAST QUEEN so much as it is obviously a proposal of the C-Class. If she had been rebuilt that way, she would have lost all of her unique features: the twin funnels, the Great Lakes style wheelhouses and her distinct pattern of promenade deck windows. |
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Post by victorc on Jan 30, 2014 0:26:36 GMT -8
Found something interesting while trawling through YouTube today (skip to 3m45s): There's footage of the stern and registration number (13K 97597) as well (skip to 4m55s): What's bizarre about this whole thing is the colour of the hull and the font used. The colour looks a lot like the blue from the "Expo 86 Blue & Red", but the font looks completely wrong. The registration and "Lasqueti Island" is also strange. My guess is that a BCFC fan bought Suzy Q's lifeboat #5, painted it, and registered it a pleasure craft. I haven't been able to look up the registration number -- I know 13K means "Vancouver", but it'd be nice to know further details. Does anybody know what the Suzy Q's vessel registration number was? This may very well be lifeboat #5 from the Suzy Q -- here's an old postcard showing some of the Suzy Q's lifeboats and davits (which was typical of the day). www.danpropp.com/photo/Postcards/SunshineCoastQueenDeck.jpgCheers, V. |
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Jan 30, 2014 19:10:32 GMT -8
Found something interesting while trawling through YouTube today (skip to 3m45s): Video omitted.There's footage of the stern and registration number (13K 97597) as well (skip to 4m55s): Video omitted.What's bizarre about this whole thing is the colour of the hull and the font used. The colour looks a lot like the blue from the "Expo 86 Blue & Red", but the font looks completely wrong. The registration and "Lasqueti Island" is also strange. My guess is that a BCFC fan bought Suzy Q's lifeboat #5, painted it, and registered it a pleasure craft. I haven't been able to look up the registration number -- I know 13K means "Vancouver", but it'd be nice to know further details. Does anybody know what the Suzy Q's vessel registration number was? This may very well be lifeboat #5 from the Suzy Q -- here's an old postcard showing some of the Suzy Q's lifeboats and davits (which was typical of the day). www.danpropp.com/photo/Postcards/SunshineCoastQueenDeck.jpgCheers, V. Welcome to the forum, victorc! Thank you for sharing that interesting find with us! The Sunshine Coast Queen's registration number was 313942. |
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Post by Ferryman on May 20, 2014 17:51:50 GMT -8
The following isn't photos of the Suzy Q herself, but of the bridge that displaced her from the crossing she was built for. The Mackinac Bridge (pronounced Mackinaw), is the 5th largest suspension bridge in the world, and the largest one in the western hemisphere. This bridge crosses the Mackinac Strait, which is the body of water that connects Lake Huron with Lake Michigan. The toll to take your car over this bridge is $4.00US ($2.00 an axel), and $5.00 per axel on any other vehicle. There are also transport services running back and forth across the bridge, like a bus ferry of sorts. www.mackinacbridge.org/Note: I took these photos tonight, and visibility currently isn't the greatest. If I get a chance to take better quality photos when I come back through here, I'll update this post.  Mackinac Bridge by Deck-dog SSI, on Flickr Looking towards Mackinaw City  Mackinac Bridge by Deck-dog SSI, on Flickr Looking towards St. Ignace  Mackinac Bridge by Deck-dog SSI, on Flickr |
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Post by gnaz on May 27, 2015 9:33:09 GMT -8
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Post by gnaz on May 27, 2015 14:32:55 GMT -8
 More from the Steamship Historical Society. Vehicle deck of the Susie Q Steamship Historical Society Archives, www.sshsa.org. Photos used with permission.  Conversion Builder's Plaque  Dining area and cafeteria line   |
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Post by EGfleet on Jul 6, 2015 5:55:51 GMT -8
As we know, this did not come to pass...  Alas, the caption is on the back of the clipping (from a Sunday weekend insert in the Times or PI) which is glued to a piece of paper...I was able to hold it up to the light and read through: The old and the new (or at least newer) cover girls are the 28-year-old Sunshine Coast Queen now being acquired from British Columbia Ferries by WSF, possibly for use on the Anacortes-Sidney run...The "old" ferry they refer to is the Virginia V, but that part of the clipping was not included. |
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Post by Starsteward on Jul 6, 2015 6:28:53 GMT -8
As we know, this did not come to pass... Alas, the caption is on the back of the clipping (from a Sunday weekend insert in the Times or PI) which is glued to a piece of paper...I was able to hold it up to the light and read through: The old and the new (or at least newer) cover girls are the 28-year-old Sunshine Coast Queen now being acquired from British Columbia Ferries by WSF, possibly for use on the Anacortes-Sidney run...The "old" ferry they refer to is the Virginia V, but that part of the clipping was not included. NOT, following through on purchasing the 'Suzie Q' from BC Ferries should go down in history as one of the smartest moves WSF never made.  |
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Post by chinook2 on Jul 10, 2015 12:36:03 GMT -8
IIRC, they were looking at the Suzy to supplement their fleet after the collapse of the Hood Canal Bridge in winter 78/79. The eventual deal-killer was lack of sewage tanks.
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Post by EGfleet on Aug 13, 2015 9:53:24 GMT -8
Interesting...wasn't the Chinook already the Sechelt Queen by this time?  |
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Post by Starsteward on Aug 13, 2015 10:04:29 GMT -8
Interesting...wasn't the Chinook already the Sechelt Queen by this time? The 'Sechelt Queen' had been on Route 2 until the arrival of the brand new 'Queens of Nanaimo and Burnaby'. It was at that time that the 'Sechelt Queen' was moved to the Horseshoe Bay - Langdale run. That run had the 'Langdale and Sechelt Queens' for a while until the big white elephant 'Suzie Q' arrived on the scene.
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Post by WettCoast on Aug 13, 2015 10:16:42 GMT -8
Interesting...wasn't the Chinook already the Sechelt Queen by this time? The wholesale re-branding of BC Ferry fleet vessels to "Queen of" names happened at the time (or shortly after) the Queens of Saanich & Esquimalt were introduced in 1963. The Suzie Q came along in 68 (I think?) so yes, the Chinook name was long gone by then. Do you have a date for this photo/ article? |
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Post by EGfleet on Aug 13, 2015 10:30:24 GMT -8
Interesting...wasn't the Chinook already the Sechelt Queen by this time? The wholesale re-branding of BC Ferry fleet vessels to "Queen of" names happened at the time (or shortly after) the Queens of Saanich & Esquimalt were introduced in 1963. The Suzie Q came along in 68 (I think?) so yes, the Chinook name was long gone by then. Do you have a date for this photo/ article? No date, but given the caption is has to have been just before the Sunshine Coast Queen went into service. It's likely that it's from a paper in the U.S./Seattle, so use of the name Chinook might have been on purpose. I've got another clipping somewhere detailing the replacement of the Jervis Queen which refers to the vessel in the caption as the "former Black Ball ferry Bainbridge." South of the border people would recognize the name Chinook but might not have recognized Sechelt Queen as the same vessel. |
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Post by divcoles on Oct 5, 2016 13:09:39 GMT -8
The Sunshine Coast Queen entered service in 1987. They deemed "Queen of the Sunshine Coast" to be too long a name. Originally they planned to call her "Langdale Queen or Gibsons Queen, but apparently a prominent official from that area had just "come out of the closet" about the time the ferry was acquired, and so any immediate regional references with the word "Queen" in them were found to be in bad taste or subject to ridicule at the time. Sexual orientation was a much bigger deal back in the 60s.
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Post by divcoles on Oct 5, 2016 13:19:54 GMT -8
I was just reading old posts. One from August 2015 said WSF did not acquire the Suzy Q because she did not have sewerage holding tanks. That's true, instead she had a complete wastewater treatment system. They looked at her to fill runs when the Hood Canal Bridge sank, but they actually planned to use her on the international run from Anacortes, since she had SOLAS certification. That would have freed up smaller vessels to use on the canal run.
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Post by Neil on Oct 5, 2016 22:19:42 GMT -8
The Sunshine Coast Queen entered service in 1987. They deemed "Queen of the Sunshine Coast" to be too long a name. Originally they planned to call her "Langdale Queen or Gibsons Queen, but apparently a prominent official from that area had just "come out of the closet" about the time the ferry was acquired, and so any immediate regional references with the word "Queen" in them were found to be in bad taste or subject to ridicule at the time. Sexual orientation was a much bigger deal back in the 60s. There already was a Langdale Queen, so obviously that wouldn't have been considered as a possible name for the SCQ, and as for the reference to closets... I think you're having a bit of fun. |
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Post by divcoles on Oct 6, 2016 11:54:51 GMT -8
Actually, I heard that from the crew when I first rode her back then. I believe there was also printed reference to it in one of the BC Ferries books, but my memory isn't good enough to specifically cite it right now.
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Post by FNS on Oct 6, 2016 14:34:58 GMT -8
I was just reading old posts. One from August 2015 said WSF did not acquire the Suzy Q because she did not have sewerage holding tanks. That's true, instead she had a complete wastewater treatment system. They looked at her to fill runs when the Hood Canal Bridge sank, but they actually planned to use her on the international run from Anacortes, since she had SOLAS certification. That would have freed up smaller vessels to use on the canal run. If WSF had taken her in, and if I had my way, I would have assigned her to the NVI routes since she had no facilities to accommodate foot passenger planks. Also, I would have renamed her SUQUAMISH ( SU- QU-amish) ( SUnshine Coast QUeen). Here's what my vessel assignment roster would have looked like in 1979 (numbers show car capacities then): Anacortes - San Juan Islands - Sidney BC160 KALEETAN 100 EVERGREEN STATE 075 KLICKITAT 035 VASHON ACTUAL (No change from before)No changes Port Townsend - Keystone (Improved)065 RHODODENDRON 055 OLYMPIC (made fast at Union Wharf or the military docks at Indian Island as there was only one slip at PT) ACTUAL (No change from before)065 RHODODENDRON Port Townsend - Edmonds206 WALLA WALLA ACTUALNo changes, except the WALLA WALLA and SPOKANE took turns) Columbia Beach - Mukilteo (Improved)075 ILLAHEE 075 NISQUALLY 075 QUINAULT ACTUAL (No change from before)075 ILLAHEE 065 KULSHAN 055 OLYMPIC South Point - Lofall(passenger only) (vehicle docks being restored) ACTUALNo changes Kingston - Edmonds100 TILLIKUM ACTUAL (Downgrade from a 160 and a 075)No changes (TILLIKUM briefly replaced KLAHOWYA at NVI after "K" lost a rudder, "K" to KIN-EDM) Winslow - Seattle206 SPOKANE 160 ELWHA ACTUAL (Downgrade from two 206)No changes, except SPOKANE and WALLA WALLA took turns) Bremerton - Seattle160 HYAK 160 YAKIMA ACTUAL (No change from before)No changes Southworth - NVI - Fauntleroy (Improved, more direct trips)175 SUQUAMISH (SCQ from BCF) 100 KLAHOWYA 040 HIYU (SOU-NVI shuttle) ACTUAL (Downgrade from two 100 and a 075)100 KLAHOWYA (briefly replaced by the TILLIKUM after losing a rudder, to KIN-EDM) 075 NISQUALLY 075 QUINAULT Point Defiance - Tahlequah (Improved)065 KULSHAN ACTUAL (No change from before)040 HIYU As a result, Keystone, Mukilteo, NVI, and Tahlequah would have received capacity improvements and there would have been slightly better avenues in getting to Hood Canal and Olympic Peninsula destinations after the bridge sinking in February of 1979. |
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Post by mandi on Mar 4, 2018 19:56:14 GMT -8
I found this website looking for the history of a ship named Suzie Q. I am clueless about ships or their history. I know a woman that told me she was named after the ship Suzie Q. It would have been before 1945. Her grandpa told her it was a hearty ship and it always came through in a crunch. Can anyone on here help me get more information for her? She’s never been able to find it.
Thank you in advance.
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Post by WettCoast on Mar 4, 2018 20:42:52 GMT -8
There was a BC Ferry named the Sunshine Coast Queen that was nick-named the Suzie Q ... It operated on the route between Horseshoe Bay near Vancouver and Langdale on the Sunshine Coast. This was in the late 1960's through to the mid 1970's. This timeline does not nearly match yours. More info on the Sunshine Coast Queen can be found on this thread. ' nauticapedia.ca' has no information on any BC vessel past or present named Suzie Q. |
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Post by FNS on Mar 5, 2018 5:17:07 GMT -8
I found this website looking for the history of a ship named Suzie Q. I am clueless about ships or their history. I know a woman that told me she was named after the ship Suzie Q. It would have been before 1945. Her grandpa told her it was a hearty ship and it always came through in a crunch. Can anyone on here help me get more information for her? She’s never been able to find it. Thank you in advance. Definitely the MV SUNSHINE COAST QUEEN.
She almost became a member of our fleet here on Puget Sound in 1979 after the Hood Canal Bridge sinking. A lot of modifications would have been needed to accommodate foot passenger planks on major routes here and repainting her green and white. If I had my way, I would have renamed her SU-QU-AMISH from SU-NSHINE COAST QU-EEN.
These comments of mine here are only temporary as well as this thread.
Go check out her official thread in this, the In Their Wake - BC's Historical Ships section / ex BC Ferries Ships thread of this Forum.
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