Anybody know where the QPR is currently situated? It's not appearing on Siitech at Deas anymore, and I haven't been out that way to take a look. The last time I went past there was exactly 2 weeks ago and she was still there. Being not familiar with the northern terminals, I don't even know if there is an extra berth for a 2nd ship while the in-service vessel is in port at that same location. There must be at Port Hardy, considering the NorAd and Chilli both use it in the summer period. . .surely there's a time overlap where they're both at Port Hardy. Please help wrap my mind around this one. Thanks!
The QPR has been gone from Deas since at least Saturday evening when I was checking around on Siltech to see what was where. I searched the various south coast terminals to find her whereabouts and turned up empty-handed. In the past they have sometimes stored her at Departure Bay's berth 1, but we all know that that is already occupied.
As for the North Coast, I don't know. BCF's has one berth only at each port. As stated by Mr. F-H there is a spot at Bear Cove (Port Hardy) where ships may be tied up overnight. Rupert has the adjoining Alaska dock but that is not an option for BCF's. So, where is she. Has she gone to one of the ship yards or dry docks for work?
Perhaps she is up the river at Silverdale keeping the QoS company, or out on a cruise with the QoRichmond.
More historical photos of the Queen of Prince Rupert in Rupert Harbour in August 1975. In the lower photo the ship is berthed at the terminal used by AMHS. BCF shared this slip with Alaska ferries until they built their own slip a few years later.
Tonight's photo comes from my brother David's collection. This is a photo of a brand new Queen of Prince Rupert on display in Victoria's inner harbour in the spring of 1966. On the back of the photo it says "Please credit Government of British columbia - Department of Travel Industry"
Too bad the original is monochrome...
Check out the signs in the background for BCF advertising c1966.
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Post by Retrovision on Mar 14, 2007 0:51:48 GMT -8
Great find from your brother's collection, JST.
That sternwheeler, decorative or not, in the foreground caught my eye immediately, though. One of my fondest memories from my family's boating days, from when I was just a baby strapped to the cockpit (aboard a C&C Landfall 38' sailboat) until I was about 10 cruising the Gulf and San Juan Islands, is of the occasional trip to Newcastle Island, opposite Nanaimo. The first ferries that I rode, because of having the boat, were ridden like the Gulf Islanders themselves would, from the islands to Vancouver Island and return, instead of the other way around. Probably the most frequent ferry taken over that decade or so was the Newcastle to Nanaimo ferry, which at the time utilized that very same boat, or a twin sister vessel; the look of that boat isn't one that a kid with a love for the water and everything on it can easily forget, and I have distinct images in my memory especially of the superstructure, decorative features and hull of that vessel.
Including this profile of accommodations available aboard the Queen of Prince Rupert at the time
This brochure of the QPR shows just how much passenger accommodation it once had. Slowly, but surely, most of it has disappeared. First there was 1980 when the Victoria Princess conversion led to half of the prom deck cabins being removed. Then in the 1990's the lower 'Tween' deck staterooms were closed to passengers because of safety concerns. They did, however, continue to be used by the crew. Then, last year, following the sinking of the QotN, most of the remaining cabins were taken over by crew. They were (quite understandably) no longer going to be accommodated below the water line.
The result - at one time the QPR provided sleeping accommodation for ~150 people; today less than 30.
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I am virtually certain that the QPR photo is taken in Prince Rupert harbour as noted by Fluge. The low land in the background is Digby Island where Rupert's airport is located. The old Alaska ferry berth is just visible on the left of this photo. It is the berth that has just been taken out of service to have major work done on it.
With regard to EGF's photo above, circumstance suggests to me that this is the Delta Princess rather than the Lloyd Jones. I say that because the photo is taken at Swartz Bay. The ship in the background looks to be one of the originals (either the Sidney or its twin). The time very likely from before the Gulf Islands Ferry Company was absorbed into BCF. At that time the Lloyd Jones was still being operated on Okanagan Lake. Furthermore, when first brought to the coast the LJ was renamed Bowen Queen, and operated to Bowen Island from Horseshoe Bay. After that it moved south to the Crofton - Vesuvius run and was renamed again. My source for the above is the Bannerman book. It is known to not be entirely accurate.
Another clue - this vessel is not in BCF's colours. The LJ would likely have been in BCF colours from the day it began service on the coast in 1963. I am assuming such as she was cut into pieces for the overland journey and had to be put back together once at the coast. It seems probable that she would have received BCF colours at that time.
Jumping to the end of the mass building program that started our fleet out running, the same 1967-published book notes this on Page 53 about the then pride of the fleet, the Queen of Prince Rupert...
The pride of the fleet was launched, however, on 27 September 1965. She is the larger Queen of Prince Rupert, specially designed for the Kelsey Bay - Prince Rupert run. Again VMD (Victoria Machinery Depot) was awarded the contract and their naval architect, Mr. Jorgen Baess, visited the designer in Denmark, Knud E. Hansen of Copenhagen, to discuss problems and get the new vessel under construction quickly. Said Baess, himself a Dane, "The Danes are the leading designers and builders of ferries. Denmark is made up of 1,500 islands and one peninsula, and this is how people get around. There is a ferry running from Sweden to Denmark every ten minutes around the clock." The fleet's pride has many interesting technical features but to the layman her bow structure is of particular note. It opens upward to allow vehicles to come aboard, reminiscent of the visor of a medieval knight's helmet. Queen of Prince Rupert is 325 feet long, 3,500 gross tons, and can carry 90 cars and 430 passengers. She has sleeping accommodation in 133 passenger cabins, with some choice as to luxury and price.
(The launch date should be noted by us September babies, Ernie and myself in particular born on the 26th and 25th of the month respectively 17 years later.)
Here's a profile of those accommodations and their location aboard the then new Queen of Prince Rupert taken from a travel agents' booklet published in the late 1960s...
It has been some time since I last added something 'historical' to this thread. So, just fresh from my Nikon Coolscan V, I give you a view of the QPR. This is from a Kodachrome slide taken by my father 32 years ago.
Prince Rupert Harbour with fishing boats and the Queen of Prince Rupert in the distance, 13 Oct 1976. photo by FVT