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Post by avgeekjoe on Nov 9, 2019 1:45:00 GMT -8
Will WSF have to change the Long Range Plan due I-976 being passed by voters? Too early to know. Safe to assume executing the plan may take longer, and delay or deny a ferry being replaced. A lot has gone on every day this week. I expect the pace of events to be fast and frequent until January when the State Legislature gets into session. We won't know what changes if any probably until March or April.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Nov 9, 2019 18:06:44 GMT -8
Maybe it time that Washington State Ferries should get stable predictable funding from State to help push through all projects that they have.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 9, 2019 18:52:24 GMT -8
Maybe it time that Washington State Ferries should get stable predictable funding from State to help push through all projects that they have. ...and maybe it's time that ferry fares could be free and also that the Canucks start a streak of 5 Stanley Cups in a row.
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Post by avgeekjoe on Jul 31, 2020 21:49:55 GMT -8
Will WSF have to change the Long Range Plan due I-976 being passed by voters? Too early to know. Safe to assume executing the plan may take longer, and delay or deny a ferry being replaced. A lot has gone on every day this week. I expect the pace of events to be fast and frequent until January when the State Legislature gets into session. We won't know what changes if any probably until March or April. Right now, a) I-976 is before the State Supreme Court. Stay tuned. b) The sponsor of I-976 is running for Governor but will unlikely win against the incumbent... if the sponsor makes it out of the top-two primary ending Tuesday evening. (This is a ferry forum so I don't want to get too political.) c) The Covid19 medical-economic crisis is going to put a much bigger hole in the state budget.
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Post by Kahloke on Aug 2, 2020 11:02:53 GMT -8
Too early to know. Safe to assume executing the plan may take longer, and delay or deny a ferry being replaced. A lot has gone on every day this week. I expect the pace of events to be fast and frequent until January when the State Legislature gets into session. We won't know what changes if any probably until March or April. Right now, a) I-976 is before the State Supreme Court. Stay tuned. b) The sponsor of I-976 is running for Governor but will unlikely win against the incumbent... if the sponsor makes it out of the top-two primary ending Tuesday evening. (This is a ferry forum so I don't want to get too political.) c) The Covid19 medical-economic crisis is going to put a much bigger hole in the state budget. Just did my bit and voted in the primary. Jumping on the political front a little bit here, I'm really hoping Eyman (the sponsor of I-976) doesn't make it past the primary. I don't think he will. Honestly, I think it will be Jay Inslee (the incumbent) vs. Loren Culp. I'll tell you right now my standing. I voted for Inslee in the primary and will again in November. I think he's done a credible job as governor and a good job overall in handling the COVID crisis in Washington. And, yes, COVID is putting a huge dent in the state budget, and it will be interesting to see where this leaves funding for new ferries, terminals, and the like. I suspect fleet replacements will take longer than originally planned. The Issaquahs may have to soldier on past 50 years, the planned retirement age for those vessels.
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Post by avgeekjoe on Aug 6, 2020 22:47:50 GMT -8
Right now, a) I-976 is before the State Supreme Court. Stay tuned. b) The sponsor of I-976 is running for Governor but will unlikely win against the incumbent... if the sponsor makes it out of the top-two primary ending Tuesday evening. (This is a ferry forum so I don't want to get too political.) c) The Covid19 medical-economic crisis is going to put a much bigger hole in the state budget. Just did my bit and voted in the primary. Jumping on the political front a little bit here, I'm really hoping Eyman (the sponsor of I-976) doesn't make it past the primary. I don't think he will. Honestly, I think it will be Jay Inslee (the incumbent) vs. Loren Culp. I'll tell you right now my standing. I voted for Inslee in the primary and will again in November. I think he's done a credible job as governor and a good job overall in handling the COVID crisis in Washington. And, yes, COVID is putting a huge dent in the state budget, and it will be interesting to see where this leaves funding for new ferries, terminals, and the like. I suspect fleet replacements will take longer than originally planned. The Issaquahs may have to soldier on past 50 years, the planned retirement age for those vessels. Thank you, we're of like-mind although I an independent voted Freed in the primary. Mainly strategically voting as an Independent with enough Rs to stop Eyman. Looks like folks rejected for Governor an initiative author with a horrid success rate. Inferring from Culp's comments on state spending; I worry about the future of WSF if he's in charge. But I don't see him winning in November. I do think the Issaquahs will have to sail on longer due to Covid19 medical-economic crisis; hopefully able to serve their last years as emergency reserve boats. Especially as Anacortes-Sidney will restart with only one boat due to SOLAS requirements, if at all.
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Post by Edmondsguy on Aug 7, 2020 11:41:04 GMT -8
Just did my bit and voted in the primary. Jumping on the political front a little bit here, I'm really hoping Eyman (the sponsor of I-976) doesn't make it past the primary. I don't think he will. Honestly, I think it will be Jay Inslee (the incumbent) vs. Loren Culp. I'll tell you right now my standing. I voted for Inslee in the primary and will again in November. I think he's done a credible job as governor and a good job overall in handling the COVID crisis in Washington. And, yes, COVID is putting a huge dent in the state budget, and it will be interesting to see where this leaves funding for new ferries, terminals, and the like. I suspect fleet replacements will take longer than originally planned. The Issaquahs may have to soldier on past 50 years, the planned retirement age for those vessels. Thank you, we're of like-mind although I an independent voted Freed in the primary. Mainly strategically voting as an Independent with enough Rs to stop Eyman. Looks like folks rejected for Governor an initiative author with a horrid success rate. Inferring from Culp's comments on state spending; I worry about the future of WSF if he's in charge. But I don't see him winning in November. I do think the Issaquahs will have to sail on longer due to Covid19 medical-economic crisis; hopefully able to serve their last years as emergency reserve boats. Especially as Anacortes-Sidney will restart with only one boat due to SOLAS requirements, if at all. At last, a little good news... At least for the Issaquah Class. Due to the efforts of Senator Maria Cantwell, two of the Issaquah Class (at the moment I don't which two) have received a $5 million federal grant to replace the reduction gears. According to the article "...purchase new reduction gear components to maintain its ferries. The parts have reached or exceeded their 20-year lifespan, and if they failed it would cost the agency 15 months of lost service, or nearly $3 million per failure, according to the news release." The Issaquahs, once the most trouble-plagued vessels in the fleet, have now become some of the most reliable vessels, and as such are being worked, quite literally, to death. from Evergreenfleet site.
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Post by iceberg1 on Aug 7, 2020 12:16:09 GMT -8
The other main issue for the Issy Class longevity is steel deck corrosion. It's pretty bad. The Kitsap has had her steel corrosion survey completed and the effected areas identified. Next will be the Issaquah. She is slated for a long drydock period starting May 2021 which could lead to Red Gears being replaced and wasted steel cut out and replaces as well.
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Post by SeahawkNERD8275 on Nov 9, 2022 9:51:56 GMT -8
When is the tilkum going to be on the Fauntleroy Vashon route? And, what is going to replace the tilkum on the inter island route?
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Post by Kahloke on Nov 9, 2022 10:39:18 GMT -8
When is the tilkum going to be on the Fauntleroy Vashon route? And, what is going to replace the tilkum on the inter island route? Tillikum is likely to finish her career as the inter-island ferry in the San Juans, unless you or someone else has heard something different. As to when that happens, who knows? Sealth is the eventual replacement for Tilly, but with all of the crew shortage issues and alternate schedules during and since the COVID lockdown, the long range plan has really been upended. Add to that the delay for getting new vessels built, there's a lot up in the air right now.
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Post by SeahawkNERD8275 on Dec 16, 2022 13:07:04 GMT -8
When is the tilkum going to be on the Fauntleroy Vashon route? And, what is going to replace the tilkum on the inter island route? Tillikum is likely to finish her career as the inter-island ferry in the San Juans, unless you or someone else has heard something different. As to when that happens, who knows? Sealth is the eventual replacement for Tilly, but with all of the crew shortage issues and alternate schedules during and since the COVID lockdown, the long range plan has really been upended. Add to that the delay for getting new vessels built, there's a lot up in the air right now. Maybe when the sealth is out of service the kenwick will replace it
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Post by SeahawkNERD8275 on Dec 16, 2022 13:10:16 GMT -8
When is the tilkum going to be ritered it’s the end of 2022
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