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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 4:51:57 GMT -8
For the San Juans inter island boat, which end docks at which island? I know for the rest of the boats in The San Juans, one end lands at all the islands while the other lands only in anacortes.
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Post by Elwha on the Rocks on Aug 4, 2015 8:07:34 GMT -8
For the San Juans inter island boat, which end docks at which island? I know for the rest of the boats in The San Juans, one end lands at all the islands while the other lands only in anacortes. It depends on the sailing, since some sailings stop a each island in a different order than others. It also depends on the amount of cars that are going to a certain island. For example, last summer I saw the Evergreen State spin in Friday Harbor before continuing on the Lopez, but later that summer when I watched the Klahowya make that same departure she did not spin.
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Post by Barnacle on Aug 4, 2015 17:06:09 GMT -8
For the San Juans inter island boat, which end docks at which island? I know for the rest of the boats in The San Juans, one end lands at all the islands while the other lands only in anacortes. It depends on the sailing, since some sailings stop a each island in a different order than others. It also depends on the amount of cars that are going to a certain island. For example, last summer I saw the Evergreen State spin in Friday Harbor before continuing on the Lopez, but later that summer when I watched the Klahowya make that same departure she did not spin. I can confirm, it varies. If the commercial traffic is heavy, the crews will occasionally try to load the boat for a minimum of reverse-gear action, be it backing on or off.
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Post by Barnacle on Aug 4, 2015 17:07:24 GMT -8
What is it like backing on/spinning on the ferry? I've seen it done southworth to vashon Spinning is pretty easy. I've done that on the Southworth to Vashon crossing. On Issaquah or Cathlamet, they usually run you down one side, then up the ramp on the other side so you are facing the correct way. Backing on can be tricky, especially in a large freezer truck, which I had the privilege of driving one summer many years ago - a summer job while I was in college. On Monday mornings, I had to make deliveries to Friday Harbor, so would have to back the truck on at Orcas for that particular sailing which was not the inter-island ferry. It was a morning sailing that went from Anacortes to Orcas to Friday Harbor. And, as I recall, it was Evergreen State that made that run. This would be in the early 90's. My only consolation is that I didn't have a trailer. I see people backing on at Orcas with trailers, and witness all the problems they have trying to back on straight. Makes me glad I don't have to do that every time I see it being attempted. I have recollections of that sailing in the late 1990s... that was about 8:50 AM, Orcas-FH (the Evergreen was en route to Sidney), by the time I was doing it.
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Post by Kahloke on Aug 4, 2015 20:17:50 GMT -8
I have recollections of that sailing in the late 1990s... that was about 8:50 AM, Orcas-FH (the Evergreen was en route to Sidney), by the time I was doing it. The year I am thinking of is 1993, and as I recall, Evergreen left Orcas around 7:30am, arriving in Friday Harbor at 8:10. I think Elwha was running the morning international sailing then, and Evergreen in the afternoon, so Evergreen would have been on domestic duty in the morning.
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Post by Barnacle on Aug 5, 2015 4:27:26 GMT -8
I have recollections of that sailing in the late 1990s... that was about 8:50 AM, Orcas-FH (the Evergreen was en route to Sidney), by the time I was doing it. The year I am thinking of is 1993, and as I recall, Evergreen left Orcas around 7:30am, arriving in Friday Harbor at 8:10. I think Elwha was running the morning international sailing then, and Evergreen in the afternoon, so Evergreen would have been on domestic duty in the morning. Oh, Summer schedule... yes, that was different. They did that international split for a few years; IIRC 1997-98 was about when they stopped.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 8:25:41 GMT -8
Why doesn't WSDOT refer to the No.1 and No.2 ends of the ferry as the BOW and STERN respectively? I think No.1 end should be the BOW and No.2 end should be the STERN.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 6, 2015 8:50:43 GMT -8
Why doesn't WSDOT refer to the No.1 and No.2 ends of the ferry as the BOW and STERN respectively? I think No.1 end should be the BOW and No.2 end should be the STERN. You are quickly approaching your annual limit of Why?'s. For a fee of $129.95, you can extend this by another 500 Why?'s, but there is a ceiling that cannot be bought. Also, as a special limited time offer, for a fee of $876.59, we can organize a lobby group to change #1 & #2 to bow and stern respectively, but to get it all uppercase would require a special extra fee of $972.13, paid at time of signing the contract. All prices in metric currency, which works out to be 2,983.347 centrigrades, based on today's exchange rates at the Queen of Richmond's pursar's office.
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Post by WettCoast on Aug 6, 2015 9:01:36 GMT -8
Why doesn't WSDOT refer to the No.1 and No.2 ends of the ferry as the BOW and STERN respectively? I think No.1 end should be the BOW and No.2 end should be the STERN. You are quickly approaching your annual limit of Why?'s. For a fee of $129.95, you can extend this by another 500 Why?'s, but there is a ceiling that cannot be bought. Also, as a special limited time offer, for a fee of $876.59, we can organize a lobby group to change #1 & #2 to bow and stern respectively, but to get it all uppercase would require a special extra fee of $972.13, paid at time of signing the contract. All prices in metric dollars, which works out to be 2,983.347 centrigrades, based on today's exchange rates at the Queen of Richmond's pursar's office. Sounds like Mr. Horn had his breakfast at 'Breakers' Pub this morning ...
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Aug 7, 2015 10:37:35 GMT -8
A question I've had for awhile;
How does homeporting work? I've heard of boats being homeported in Seattle and in Anacortes. Does this impact which ships can work where, and if so, how?
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Aug 7, 2015 15:56:10 GMT -8
A question I've had for awhile; How does homeporting work? I've heard of boats being homeported in Seattle and in Anacortes. Does this impact which ships can work where, and if so, how? Seattle not that I am aware unless Barnacle says differently. Anacortes has always been the base for the San Juan boats except for the interisland vessels. Basically all you need to do is be able to crew the vessel for operation. It makes no sense to say homeport a vessel at Fauntleroy or Southworth since they only have one slip and multiple vessels so if there is an issue service is disrupted. It is unlikely however if you have 3 boats at Vashon that two will be down. Also when it comes to that, you would force two boat service early for no good reason just to make sure the slip is free and if crew don't show up then it becomes a doosey. At least that would be my basic understanding, keep the slips open, have enough crew to sail shold be good to go.
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Post by Barnacle on Aug 8, 2015 3:44:23 GMT -8
A question I've had for awhile; How does homeporting work? I've heard of boats being homeported in Seattle and in Anacortes. Does this impact which ships can work where, and if so, how? No impact to operations; it's strictly an administrative thing. Any boat can work any run, within the limitations (if any) of the Certificate of Inspection.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 15:58:34 GMT -8
What do you think is the bumpiest WSF run? Which is the least bumpy? I'd guess PT-COU and PD-TAL.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 10, 2015 16:57:53 GMT -8
What do you think is the bumpiest WSF run? Which is the least bumpy? I'd guess PT-COU and PD-TAL. Bumpiest might be Sidney - Anacortes, because of crossing two different wind-prone straits: Haro and Rosario.
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Post by FNS on Aug 11, 2015 11:08:00 GMT -8
Last week, WSF realigned its maintenance slate placing the Olympic Class ferries TOKITAE and SAMISH under the Supers. The regularly active ferries are now grouped by length as 460', 440', 382', 362', 328', 310', 274', and the "pending" ferries. Also, the 310' EVERGREEN STATE is moved down from her class and is now grouped with the 162' HIYU as "pending" ferries. www.wsdot.wa.gov/ferries/service
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 14:25:16 GMT -8
Has anyone ever seen a fire drill on WSDOT ferries? I ask because I have seen the general alarms on a ferry and want to know what they sound like.
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Post by FNS on Aug 11, 2015 20:25:12 GMT -8
Has anyone ever seen a fire drill on WSDOT ferries? I have at least a couple of times or so. Once aboard the RHODODENDRON on a trip from Columbia Beach to Mukilteo in the 1970s and the others aboard a Jumbo. I tried not to observe what the crew were doing (staying out of their way, that is) and let them be and do what they were required to do to keep the ferry certified. Bells and whistles are sounded. On the Jumbos, we were notified on their PA systems. On board the RHODY, on the other hand, no announcements were made as there were no PA systems aboard her during the 1970s as well as virtually all of the smaller ferries then. I was riding on her car deck on that particular trip and did see crew members running about while listening to the bells and whistles. As the ferry was still underway at full speed, I figured it was a drill. I did participate in a publicly invited abandon ship drill aboard the EVERGREEN STATE some time ago at Colman Dock. After checking in and having some refreshments, we awaited the abandon ship signal. We then opened up the benches and donned the flotation vests, helping others in the act. We watched inflatable life rafts drop to the water and lined up to go down the ladders to the car deck and the Marine Evacuation Slide (MES). After all of us participants were abandoned, the ES left the dock and the rescue boats moved us to the apron, which was lowered to the water, so we can go ashore. The empty rafts were moved away and the ES returned so we could have some closing refreshments. Our reward in doing the drill? Mariners tickets! I think they were testing new equipment installed aboard her then (can't remember the year).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 6:16:50 GMT -8
Has anyone ever seen a fire drill on WSDOT ferries? I have at least a couple of times or so. Once aboard the RHODODENDRON on a trip from Columbia Beach to Mukilteo in the 1970s and the others aboard a Jumbo. I tried not to observe what the crew were doing (staying out of their way, that is) and let them be and do what they were required to do to keep the ferry certified. Bells and whistles are sounded. On the Jumbos, we were notified on their PA systems. On board the RHODY, on the other hand, no announcements were made as there were no PA systems aboard her during the 1970s as well as virtually all of the smaller ferries then. I was riding on her car deck on that particular trip and did see crew members running about while listening to the bells and whistles. As the ferry was still underway at full speed, I figured it was a drill. I did participate in a publicly invited abandon ship drill aboard the EVERGREEN STATE some time ago at Colman Dock. After checking in and having some refreshments, we awaited the abandon ship signal. We then opened up the benches and donned the flotation vests, helping others in the act. We watched inflatable life rafts drop to the water and lined up to go down the ladders to the car deck and the Marine Evacuation Slide (MES). After all of us participants were abandoned, the ES left the dock and the rescue boats moved us to the apron, which was lowered to the water, so we can go ashore. The empty rafts were moved away and the ES returned so we could have some closing refreshments. Our reward in doing the drill? Mariners tickets! I think they were testing new equipment installed aboard her then (can't remember the year). What did the announcement over the PA say? How far were you into the crossing? I've only experienced 2 fire drills but can't remember them!!
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Post by FNS on Aug 13, 2015 2:40:13 GMT -8
I have at least a couple of times or so. Once aboard the RHODODENDRON on a trip from Columbia Beach to Mukilteo in the 1970s and the others aboard a Jumbo. I tried not to observe what the crew were doing (staying out of their way, that is) and let them be and do what they were required to do to keep the ferry certified. Bells and whistles are sounded. On the Jumbos, we were notified on their PA systems. On board the RHODY, on the other hand, no announcements were made as there were no PA systems aboard her during the 1970s as well as virtually all of the smaller ferries then. I was riding on her car deck on that particular trip and did see crew members running about while listening to the bells and whistles. As the ferry was still underway at full speed, I figured it was a drill. I did participate in a publicly invited abandon ship drill aboard the EVERGREEN STATE some time ago at Colman Dock. After checking in and having some refreshments, we awaited the abandon ship signal. We then opened up the benches and donned the flotation vests, helping others in the act. We watched inflatable life rafts drop to the water and lined up to go down the ladders to the car deck and the Marine Evacuation Slide (MES). After all of us participants were abandoned, the ES left the dock and the rescue boats moved us to the apron, which was lowered to the water, so we can go ashore. The empty rafts were moved away and the ES returned so we could have some closing refreshments. Our reward in doing the drill? Mariners tickets! I think they were testing new equipment installed aboard her then (can't remember the year). What did the announcement over the PA say? How far were you into the crossing? I've only experienced 2 fire drills but can't remember them!! The drills often start about a quarter into a crossing. Sometimes earlier or later. The PA announcement simply says there will be a drill on the crossing and to stay out of the way of the crew performing their tasks. Find a seat and mind your own business and let the crew do their jobs during the drills.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 20:04:01 GMT -8
I was looking at the wsdot terminal conditions page and it showed a little higher number than before (203 vs 202 spaces and 192 vs 188 and 143 va 139). Does anyone know why?
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Post by FNS on Aug 26, 2015 21:04:04 GMT -8
I was looking at the wsdot terminal conditions page and it showed a little higher number than before (203 vs 202 spaces and 192 vs 188 and 143 va 139). Does anyone know why? I guess it all depends on the size of vehicles waiting on the dock. If there are more under-fourteens on the dock than big standard sized cars, the more the ferries can load. If there are more big cars on the dock than smaller cars, you might miss a trip or two. Lots of trucks, the further less number of vehicles can board. My thoughts. You sure ask a lot of questions. Some won't be answered due to obvious reasons these days. Go take a ferry ride and enjoy. If you go to Canada, on the other hand, be sure you don't forget your passport!
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Post by Kahloke on Aug 27, 2015 5:50:09 GMT -8
I was looking at the wsdot terminal conditions page and it showed a little higher number than before (203 vs 202 spaces and 192 vs 188 and 143 va 139). Does anyone know why? I guess it all depends on the size of vehicles waiting on the dock. If there are more under-fourteens on the dock than big standard sized cars, the more the ferries can load. If there are more big cars on the dock than smaller cars, you might miss a trip or two. Lots of trucks, the further less number of vehicles can board. My thoughts. You sure ask a lot of questions. Some won't be answered due to obvious reasons these days. Go take a ferry ride and enjoy. If you go to Canada, on the other hand, be sure you don't forget your passport!On board MV Samish earlier this summer, they got 156 cars on at Orcas - pretty good for a 144 car ferry. It helped that there were only maybe a couple of oversize vehicles - the rest were standard size, or smaller, cars.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Oct 11, 2015 11:51:58 GMT -8
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Post by whitieiii on Oct 21, 2015 9:42:05 GMT -8
looks like they are doing sea trials on the M/V Spokane? Just passed it and the M/V Puyallup this morning aboard the M/V Double W
BTW I must be blind but where has the thread for the M/V Spokane gone?
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Post by Mike C on Oct 21, 2015 9:54:03 GMT -8
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