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Post by whitieiii on Oct 21, 2015 11:39:49 GMT -8
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Post by Name Omitted on Nov 24, 2015 20:04:44 GMT -8
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Nov 24, 2015 21:08:49 GMT -8
So basically the crews are assigned by running positions on that route then??? Interesting. I don't know if I have asked this before and I am too lazy to search on here but why is the Chelan on the international route?? I really think the Elwha is a better ship for that route with all her space and outside deck space for tourists. Could not the Chelan be #5 in the summer and the Elwha be #1 doing the international run? A 2-3 hour trip with hardly any outside deck space would suck. The Chelan is a more feasible choice for the international route and too small for the No. 5 position. I know you didn't know this when this was posted (~June 2015) but the Kitsap is the same size as the Chelan and she (the Kitsap) worked as the #5 position boat from July-September. I think the Chelan is perfectly viable for the #5 position.
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Post by Kahloke on Nov 25, 2015 5:38:02 GMT -8
The Chelan is a more feasible choice for the international route and too small for the No. 5 position. I know you didn't know this when this was posted (~June 2015) but the Kitsap is the same size as the Chelan and she (the Kitsap) worked as the #5 position boat from July-September. I think the Chelan is perfectly viable for the #5 position. Snowy Ferries is correct on this one. Kitsap subbed for Elwha this summer when Elwha's drive motor failed...again...and had to be pulled from service. There were no other Supers available, so Kitsap was the only choice they had, but it meant there was a reduction in normal capacity. The new reservation system may have been one factor why it didn't appear like there was a severe hardship having a smaller vessel, but I suspect that was merely on the surface. We simply were not seeing the huge lineups from previous summers because people were reserving their spots, but I'm sure it impacted those trying to make reservations on the Kitsap sailings.
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 26, 2015 17:27:24 GMT -8
The Chelan is a more feasible choice for the international route and too small for the No. 5 position. I know you didn't know this when this was posted (~June 2015) but the Kitsap is the same size as the Chelan and she (the Kitsap) worked as the #5 position boat from July-September. I think the Chelan is perfectly viable for the #5 position. Kahloke covered most of it in his post; I'll add that if the Elwha had been running in the #5 spot this summer, demand would have risen to meet the supply. I concur that the reservation system discouraged a fair amount of traffic.
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Post by rwbsparks on Dec 1, 2015 23:52:11 GMT -8
Over Thanksgiving weekend I traveled to Winslow. As we were docking I noticed that there were six ferries at the eagle harbor maintenance facility. I couldn't get a photo because the lighting was really bad but it made me want to ask a couple questions... What is the highest number of boats (including PO fast ferries) that you all remember to be at the facility at one time? And is the last time there were six ferries there while the steel-electrics were mothballed back in 07-08 along with Chinook and Snohomish which I seem to recall beached to the left of the slips the car ferries are moored at?
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Post by R30A on Dec 2, 2015 6:59:47 GMT -8
I was on Bainbridge Island last New Years eve(Rang in the new year on the Wenatchee! Great place to view the fireworks). At the time, in Eagle Harbor was the Tacoma, Chelan, Hiyu, Kitsap, Yakima, and Kennewick. So there have certainly been 6 in there more recently than when the Steel Electrics and Passenger Only boats were all laid up.
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Post by Barnacle on Dec 2, 2015 7:04:38 GMT -8
Over Thanksgiving weekend I traveled to Winslow. As we were docking I noticed that there were six ferries at the eagle harbor maintenance facility. I couldn't get a photo because the lighting was really bad but it made me want to ask a couple questions... What is the highest number of boats (including PO fast ferries) that you all remember to be at the facility at one time? And is the last time there were six ferries there while the steel-electrics were mothballed back in 07-08 along with Chinook and Snohomish which I seem to recall beached to the left of the slips the car ferries are moored at? The Chinook and Snohomish weren't beached. There's enough water at the next pier. Back in the passenger-only days, capacity at Eagle Harbor was about nine boats--six RO/RO and three PO. I don't know if I've ever seen a completely full house there, though. Oddly enough, In 2007 (I think July) someone at Eagle Harbor sent out a picture to the fleet of the yard... completely empty. Though I think the Chinook and Snohomish were out of frame. We definitely had no car boats left in the bullpen by then.
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Post by rwbsparks on Dec 2, 2015 16:06:01 GMT -8
Thank you for the feedback, Thanksgivings boats were Tilikum, Kennewick, Hiyu, E-State, Issaquah and Tokitae. The 2007 photo must have been while the steel-electrics were dry docked at harbor Island, or when Nisqually was filling in before they were all yanked. If they do have a crisis and there is no available space, do they use the tie up slip at Winslow for overflow?
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Post by rwbsparks on Dec 2, 2015 16:08:36 GMT -8
The 2007 photo must have been while the 4 ill-fated ferries were at Todd/Vigor and the Snohomish was on rescue duty up at port Townsend... But where would the other mothballed PO ferries have been?
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Post by wanderlust90 on Dec 2, 2015 16:58:08 GMT -8
The 2007 photo must have been while the 4 ill-fated ferries were at Todd/Vigor and the Snohomish was on rescue duty up at port Townsend... But where would the other mothballed PO ferries have been? The Skagit and Kalama were likely at Vashon Island, providing service between the island and Seattle before King County took over the route in 2009. Source: evergreenfleet.com/monohull.html
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Post by Barnacle on Dec 3, 2015 8:22:09 GMT -8
The 2007 photo must have been while the 4 ill-fated ferries were at Todd/Vigor and the Snohomish was on rescue duty up at port Townsend... But where would the other mothballed PO ferries have been? Like I said... out of the photo frame.
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Post by rwbsparks on Dec 3, 2015 17:54:41 GMT -8
The 2007 photo must have been while the 4 ill-fated ferries were at Todd/Vigor and the Snohomish was on rescue duty up at port Townsend... But where would the other mothballed PO ferries have been? Like I said... out of the photo frame. Oops missed that part
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Post by northwesterner on Dec 3, 2015 18:02:01 GMT -8
The 2007 photo must have been while the 4 ill-fated ferries were at Todd/Vigor and the Snohomish was on rescue duty up at port Townsend... But where would the other mothballed PO ferries have been? Like I said... out of the photo frame. Also, were the 4 Steel Electrics at Todd all at once? I believe the Klickitat went directly from in service to Eagle Harbor. Illahee and Quinault were in the dry dock together, having the stern tubes redone. And the Nisqually, her stint as the second vessel on Port Townsend-Keystone finished, was either doing inter-island or was tied up. Additionally, Barnacle mentioned that the photo was taken in July 2007. This was months before Paula Hammond pulled the vessels out of service. There is a great play-by-play of the last year of service history of the Steel Electrics in this very forum. I re-read it about a year ago. There were a ton of vessel movements and a lot of nuance to what happened, and when, that I had forgotten about, but was captured in that thread, on this forum. If you have not read it, it is worth the time.
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Post by rwbsparks on Dec 3, 2015 18:46:18 GMT -8
Like I said... out of the photo frame. Also, were the 4 Steel Electrics at Todd all at once? I believe the Klickitat went directly from in service to Eagle Harbor. Illahee and Quinault were in the dry dock together, having the stern tubes redone. And the Nisqually, her stint as the second vessel on Port Townsend-Keystone finished, was either doing inter-island or was tied up. Additionally, Barnacle mentioned that the photo was taken in July 2007. This was months before Paula Hammond pulled the vessels out of service. There is a great play-by-play of the last year of service history of the Steel Electrics in this very forum. I re-read it about a year ago. There were a ton of vessel movements and a lot of nuance to what happened, and when, that I had forgotten about, but was captured in that thread, on this forum. If you have not read it, it is worth the time. Thank you for the suggestion. I was riding the Argosy Harbor Tour summer 07 and when we went past Harbor Island they were all being inspected simultaneously, 2 boats in each of 2 dry docks. I don't have photos, just my memory to rely on, which very well may be wrong.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jan 7, 2016 13:12:56 GMT -8
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jan 13, 2016 13:03:39 GMT -8
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Jan 13, 2016 15:11:01 GMT -8
Looks like there's a new clown boat in town.
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Post by maximase86 on Jan 13, 2016 18:08:45 GMT -8
Funny they should say Tokitae, because that looks more like a Issy class pilothouse to me...
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Post by Kahloke on Jan 13, 2016 18:36:37 GMT -8
Funny they should say Tokitae, because that looks more like a Issy class pilothouse to me... Yeah, that's definitely not Tokitae's bridge. Like you said, it's probably an Issy.
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Post by Neil on Jan 13, 2016 19:27:13 GMT -8
I don't care what ferry it is, but, jeez, I can see why some kids are terrified of clowns. Yikes!
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Post by trillium on Jan 13, 2016 20:09:04 GMT -8
Funny they should say Tokitae, because that looks more like a Issy class pilothouse to me... If I'm reading the autograph on the photo correctly, it says Kittitas right above J.P. Patches...
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Post by northwesterner on Jan 13, 2016 20:45:11 GMT -8
I don't care what ferry it is, but, jeez, I can see why some kids are terrified of clowns. Yikes! I don't know how familiar you are with J.P. Patches so... He hosted a children's program on KIRO-TV in Seattle (and, uhh, BC, for those who could pick it up on their rabbit ears) from 1958-1981. There are a couple of generations of middle aged and older adults in the Pacific NW who watched his show every day. I'm not old enough to have watched him, but many of my aunts and uncles were the right age in his prime and remember him fondly.
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Post by Neil on Jan 13, 2016 21:48:13 GMT -8
I don't care what ferry it is, but, jeez, I can see why some kids are terrified of clowns. Yikes! I don't know how familiar you are with J.P. Patches so... He hosted a children's program on KIRO-TV in Seattle (and, uhh, BC, for those who could pick it up on their rabbit ears) from 1958-1981. There are a couple of generations of middle aged and older adults in the Pacific NW who watched his show every day. I'm not old enough to have watched him, but many of my aunts and uncles were the right age in his prime and remember him fondly. Very familiar with J.P. Patches, as we had cable from about '69 on. I just think clowns can appear seriously creepy. I looked at this photo and thought of the '90s Stephen King TV movie 'It'... I imagine Pennywise taking over a ferry and slamming it into the dock at twenty knots.
Guess I need to adjust my meds.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jan 22, 2016 13:13:58 GMT -8
Time lapse (Bainbridge to Seattle):
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