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Post by R30A on Nov 9, 2014 12:53:50 GMT -8
The Swap has started! The Hyak is moving north towards Anacortes as I type. It is now half way between Kingston and Pt Townsend
One question I have with regards to moves like this: The other swap is the Kittitas going into service at Mukilteo-Clinton, bumping the Kitsap to Seattle-Bremerton, bumping the Sealth to FVS, bumping either the Tillikum or Evergreen back to Eagle Harbor. in swaps like this, does one crew take the Kittitas, then Kitsap, Sealth, and finally Tillikum or Evergreen State? Or does each boat keep the same crew? (or does it depend on position?)
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 9, 2014 13:01:45 GMT -8
This is a big weekend for vessel swaps , according to the WSF maintenance schedule, as several vessels will be rotated on several routes. On the triangle route, the E-States return to service will finally end and two Issy class boats will be permamently assigned to the route. Technically, the Cathy already displaced the Tilly but the Issy went in for maintenance so two Issys have not yet worked together.
I have a question. The Tilly also goes into Eagle Harbor after this weekend. The Chelan and the Sealth will fill in until the Issy and the Tilly return to service. Is this the 1st time 3 Issy class vessels have been assigned to this route? I cannot remember that happening ever. I don't get where you're seeing the Sealth's disappearance from Bremerton. Last I checked she's still there. Evergreen State won't be leaving Vashon just yet.
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 9, 2014 13:36:06 GMT -8
The Swap has started! The Hyak is moving north towards Anacortes as I type. It is now half way between Kingston and Pt Townsend One question I have with regards to moves like this: The other swap is the Kittitas going into service at Mukilteo-Clinton, bumping the Kitsap to Seattle-Bremerton, bumping the Sealth to FVS, bumping either the Tillikum or Evergreen back to Eagle Harbor. in swaps like this, does one crew take the Kittitas, then Kitsap, Sealth, and finally Tillikum or Evergreen State? Or does each boat keep the same crew? (or does it depend on position?) I didn't see anything scheduled for the Kittitas returning to service today, or movement of the Kitsap or Sealth. But a crew is called out to move the boats. Given the amount of movement you describe, I figure that would be two move crews' worth.
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Post by Kahloke on Nov 9, 2014 13:54:53 GMT -8
r30a may have gotten his information from The Maintenance Schedule, which as we know, hasn't been terribly accurate this season. That said, according to the latest iteration of the schedule, a lot of vessel swaps are scheduled to occur this week:
> Cathlamet has already been put in at F-V-S to replace Issaquah, which is out for maintenance. > As r30a noted, Hyak is on its way north to Anacortes to replace Chelan > Chelan, in turn, is scheduled to replace Evergreen or Tillikum at F-V-S sometime this week (don't know if that's happening tomorrow or not) > Elwha will take over Chelan's duties as the #1 vessel, and I'm assuming Hyak will fill the #3 slot. > Tillikum is scheduled to go to Eagle Harbor > Evergreen will be put back on standby > Kittitas is supposed to come back into service and resume duties at Mukilteo-Clinton, which means Kitsap can return to Bremerton > Sealth will then go to F-V-S to replace either Evergreen or Tillikum
So, if the maintenance schedule is at all correct this time, by the end of this week, this should be the active vessel deployment, fleet-wide:
PD-TAHL: Chetzemoka F-V-S: Cathlamet, Chelan, Sealth SEA-BRE: Kaleetan, Kitsap SEA-BAI: Puyallup, Wenatchee EDM-KIN: Spokane, Walla Walla MUK-CLI: Kittitas, Tokitae PT-KEY: Salish ANA-SJI-SID: Elwha, Hyak, Yakima INT ISL: Klahowya
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 9, 2014 14:05:43 GMT -8
r30a may have gotten his information from The Maintenance Schedule, which as we know, hasn't been terribly accurate this season. That said, according to the latest iteration of the schedule, a lot of vessel swaps are scheduled to occur this week: > Cathlamet has already been put in at F-V-S to replace Issaquah, which is out for maintenance. > As r30a noted, Hyak is on its way north to Anacortes to replace Chelan > Chelan, in turn, is scheduled to replace Evergreen or Tillikum at F-V-S sometime this week (don't know if that's happening tomorrow or not) > Elwha will take over Chelan's duties as the #1 vessel, and I'm assuming Hyak will fill the #3 slot. > Tillikum is scheduled to go to Eagle Harbor > Evergreen will be put back on standby > Kittitas is supposed to come back into service and resume duties at Mukilteo-Clinton, which means Kitsap can return to Bremerton > Sealth will then go to F-V-S to replace either Evergreen or Tillikum So, if the maintenance schedule is at all correct this time, by the end of this week, this should be the active vessel deployment, fleet-wide: PD-TAHL: Chetzemoka F-V-S: Cathlamet, Chelan, Sealth SEA-BRE: Kaleetan, Kitsap SEA-BAI: Puyallup, Wenatchee EDM-KIN: Spokane, Walla Walla MUK-CLI: Kittitas, Tokitae PT-KEY: Salish ANA-SJI-SID: Elwha, Hyak, Yakima INT ISL: Klahowya Okay, I'm looking at it from the inside. Yakima is scheduled to move to the #3 slot, with Hyak in #2 (starting tomorrow). Chelan-Tillikum trade should be on today; nothing else is on the board that I'm aware of.
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Post by PeninsulaExplorer on Nov 9, 2014 20:28:07 GMT -8
r30a may have gotten his information from The Maintenance Schedule, which as we know, hasn't been terribly accurate this season. That said, according to the latest iteration of the schedule, a lot of vessel swaps are scheduled to occur this week: > Cathlamet has already been put in at F-V-S to replace Issaquah, which is out for maintenance. > As r30a noted, Hyak is on its way north to Anacortes to replace Chelan > Chelan, in turn, is scheduled to replace Evergreen or Tillikum at F-V-S sometime this week (don't know if that's happening tomorrow or not) > Elwha will take over Chelan's duties as the #1 vessel, and I'm assuming Hyak will fill the #3 slot. > Tillikum is scheduled to go to Eagle Harbor > Evergreen will be put back on standby > Kittitas is supposed to come back into service and resume duties at Mukilteo-Clinton, which means Kitsap can return to Bremerton > Sealth will then go to F-V-S to replace either Evergreen or Tillikum So, if the maintenance schedule is at all correct this time, by the end of this week, this should be the active vessel deployment, fleet-wide: PD-TAHL: Chetzemoka F-V-S: Cathlamet, Chelan, Sealth SEA-BRE: Kaleetan, Kitsap SEA-BAI: Puyallup, Wenatchee EDM-KIN: Spokane, Walla Walla MUK-CLI: Kittitas, Tokitae PT-KEY: Salish ANA-SJI-SID: Elwha, Hyak, Yakima INT ISL: Klahowya The Tillikum is going out of service and the Chelan is going to replace her and the Evergreen State stays at Vashon. The WSF website as I speak says for the vessel positions (Weekend schedule): 1.Cathlamet 2.Evergreen State 3.Chelan
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Post by lifc on Nov 9, 2014 20:44:28 GMT -8
I was at Eagle Harbor on Thursday visiting the HIYU, they told me that they had moved the HIYU to make space for the E State which was coming in for reserve.
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 10, 2014 7:37:45 GMT -8
I was at Eagle Harbor on Thursday visiting the HIYU, they told me that they had moved the HIYU to make space for the E State which was coming in for reserve. Probably did a shuffle while they had a crew present to do it... doesn't mean it's happening the same day.
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Post by Kahloke on Nov 14, 2014 15:53:21 GMT -8
According to the WSF Weekly Bulletin, the last of the vessel swaps is scheduled to occur tomorrow (Saturday). Kitsap will be coming back to Bremerton, and Sealth moves to F-V-S, replacing Evergreen State, which will go to Eagle Harbor as the reserve vessel. They didn't say in the bulletin, but I'm assuming this means Kittitas is re-entering service at Clinton.
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Post by PeninsulaExplorer on Nov 15, 2014 5:09:54 GMT -8
According to the WSF Weekly Bulletin, the last of the vessel swaps is scheduled to occur tomorrow (Saturday). Kitsap will be coming back to Bremerton, and Sealth moves to F-V-S, replacing Evergreen State, which will go to Eagle Harbor as the reserve vessel. They didn't say in the bulletin, but I'm assuming this means Kittitas is re-entering service at Clinton. Yeah, the Kittitas is back into service at Mukilteo.
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Post by R30A on Nov 15, 2014 7:40:19 GMT -8
Yes, the whole swap appears to have occurred. The Evergreen is back at Eagle Harbor. That said, if the Wenatchee or Puyallup still need to be out of service at the start of the winter schedule, as stated on the public Maintenance schedule, There will need to be a boat added somewhere. I don't see Bainbridge service working with just one boat for the winter schedule. For the first week of winter, the ES appears to be the only extra boat besides the Hiyu. (After that, the Chelan can fill in according to the schedule)
(Yes, I know speculating on what is months away based on the public "Ferry Service Impacts and Schedule Adjustments" page is an inexact science...)
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Post by PeninsulaExplorer on Nov 15, 2014 10:44:31 GMT -8
Yes, the whole swap appears to have occurred. The Evergreen is back at Eagle Harbor. That said, if the Wenatchee or Puyallup still need to be out of service at the start of the winter schedule, as stated on the public Maintenance schedule, There will need to be a boat added somewhere. I don't see Bainbridge service working with just one boat for the winter schedule. For the first week of winter, the ES appears to be the only extra boat besides the Hiyu. (After that, the Chelan can fill in according to the schedule) (Yes, I know speculating on what is months away based on the public "Ferry Service Impacts and Schedule Adjustments" page is an inexact science...) The Puyallup is the next Jumbo Mark II to go out of service.
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 15, 2014 18:32:21 GMT -8
Yes, the whole swap appears to have occurred. The Evergreen is back at Eagle Harbor. That said, if the Wenatchee or Puyallup still need to be out of service at the start of the winter schedule, as stated on the public Maintenance schedule, There will need to be a boat added somewhere. I don't see Bainbridge service working with just one boat for the winter schedule. For the first week of winter, the ES appears to be the only extra boat besides the Hiyu. (After that, the Chelan can fill in according to the schedule) (Yes, I know speculating on what is months away based on the public "Ferry Service Impacts and Schedule Adjustments" page is an inexact science...) As soon as it is spotted that there is only one boat scheduled for Winslow, it'll get re-written. Don't be too hasty to assume that everything that is put out is completely correct, especially if it's rushed.
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Post by whitieiii on Mar 23, 2015 13:09:50 GMT -8
So the Tokitae goes from Kingston back to Mukilteo.... the Double W comes back for 2-3 weeks to be replaced by the Yakima? Other then to get full compacity for a short time, why move 3 boats to service 1? could they have just left the Tokitae till the end of service? what's the reasoning I don't know about?
so about 2016 is when the Puyallup will return to Kingston?
question, if both the Mark II are on Winslow, and one Jumbo and one Mark II in Kingston, does that throw the Double W to Brem or EH/Standby?
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Post by R30A on Mar 23, 2015 14:49:56 GMT -8
Now I am just an observer, so I don't have the official answer (if there is such a thing), but the moves make sense to me for a number of reasons: 1. The Walla Walla holds 44 more cars than the Tokitae. The capacity is needed! Even with the added capacity, there has been 1-2 hour waits on the Edmonds Kingston this week! That would be worse had they been using a 144 instead of a 188. (44 cars per hour worse if you wish to assign a number to it ) 2. While the capacity difference at Mukilteo is nowhere near as stark as Edmonds, there could be political implications to taking away their new bigger boat for no apparent reason. 3. The Klahowya was being pulled for maintenance. Sure, I suppose they could have put the Walla Walla on the San Juan interisland and moved fewer boats, but that does not make a lot of sense to me. The Sealth is a much better fit for that run. 4. With the start of the Spring Schedule, The Anacortes-Sidney run is being restored. As the international run is well... International, the boat assigned must be SOLAS compliant. Unless something has changed substantially and another boat has been upgraded to SOLAS standards, that means either the Chelan or the Elwha has to be assigned to Anacortes-San Juans 1. Since the Elwha is out for maintenance, that leaves the Chelan. So as I see it, the Chelan HAD to move from Mukilteo to Anacortes. They could have done what they did, or they could have put the Hiyu, Salish, Evergreen State or the Walla Walla on Mukilteo. Since those are all too small (or too big in the Walla Walla's case) for the run, they moved the Tokitae.
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Post by R30A on Mar 23, 2015 14:54:40 GMT -8
Again, I do not *know* the answer to your other questions, but I sort of expect that the Puyallup will go back to Edmonds before 2016, I'd think that will happen this summer. Normally the Walla Walla runs at Bremerton in the summer and fills in at Kingston (or sometimes Bainbridge) for the rest of the year whenever a boat needs maintenance.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Mar 23, 2015 17:42:22 GMT -8
Well according to the reservations page the Elwha is doing the international sailing to Sidney as I checked for April. That would be interesting if a Jumbo class boat was in the San Jauns but I doubt that would happen! What happened to the Puyallup?? Is that that same issue she had last summer?
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Post by R30A on Mar 23, 2015 18:04:40 GMT -8
The Elwha is slated to swap with the Chelan sometime soon.* The Puyallup is having the same issue as last August(and since). A bad case of being stuck on the Bainbridge run!
(*Standard Vessel Maintenance Schedule disclaimers apply)
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jun 7, 2015 9:01:32 GMT -8
According to the Maintenance Schedule, the F-V-S triangle route will have 3 Issaquah class ferries assigned this summer. Is this the first time that 3 Issy class vessels have been assigned together? I know 3 issy class boats have worked together during maintenance periods but I do not think they have been assigned on a schedule together.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 7, 2015 18:29:13 GMT -8
According to the Maintenance Schedule, the F-V-S triangle route will have 3 Issaquah class ferries assigned this summer. Is this the first time that 3 Issy class vessels have been assigned together? I know 3 issy class boats have worked together during maintenance periods but I do not think they have been assigned on a schedule together. While the Fauntleroy terminal was closed for a few weeks in September 2002, there were 3 Issaquah Class vessels on the route: M/V Issaquah, M/V Kitsap and M/V Chelan (post galley deck additions, pre SOLAS upgrades). As far as I know, that's the only time outside of maintenance periods that this has happened.
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Post by Kahloke on Jun 7, 2015 20:10:45 GMT -8
According to the Maintenance Schedule, the F-V-S triangle route will have 3 Issaquah class ferries assigned this summer. Is this the first time that 3 Issy class vessels have been assigned together? I know 3 issy class boats have worked together during maintenance periods but I do not think they have been assigned on a schedule together. While the Fauntleroy terminal was closed for a few weeks in September 2002, there were 3 Issaquah Class vessels on the route: M/V Issaquah, M/V Kitsap and M/V Chelan (post galley deck additions, pre SOLAS upgrades). As far as I know, that's the only time outside of maintenance periods that this has happened. And, note that the 3rd vessel is Sealth, so it's not like there are three 124-car ferries on the route. It's still maintaining the newly established status quo of two 124-car vessels and one 87 or 90 car vessel. I say "newly established" status quo, because up until Cathlamet joined the triangle route last fall, the standard deployment was one 124-car vessel (Issaquah), and two 87-car vessels, Klahowya and Tillikum, with Sealth sometimes subbing in for one of them.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Sept 18, 2015 15:04:32 GMT -8
how do you access the maintenance schedule on the site?? I am wondering if Samish will still be in the islands in October??
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Sept 18, 2015 15:59:15 GMT -8
how do you access the maintenance schedule on the site?? I am wondering if Samish will still be in the islands in October?? How many times now have we been over this? Go to www.wsdot.wa.gov/ferries/service/. Than bookmark the page.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Oct 23, 2015 15:31:53 GMT -8
how do you access the maintenance schedule on the site?? I am wondering if Samish will still be in the islands in October?? You are in luck Koastal Karl. The Samish isn't going anywhere because as far as I know, she will be in the San Juans until at least next summer for her USCG inspection in June or July (just guessing there)
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Post by R30A on Oct 23, 2015 16:08:14 GMT -8
While the Samish is slated to remain in service for the remainder of the fall schedule as of the most recent maintenance schedule, the FY 15-16 commercial shipyard layup schedule has the Samish out from 1/11/16 to 2/7/16.
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