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Post by gordon on Nov 2, 2011 6:19:46 GMT -8
The Nor EX was making a normal crossing mid afternoon between Stephens & Porcher Islands between 2 & 2:30 PM Yesterday afernoon
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2011 22:18:58 GMT -8
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Post by glasseye on Nov 8, 2011 15:11:44 GMT -8
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Nov 11, 2011 16:10:54 GMT -8
Weather Update:
Route 1: SOBC routing via East Point, 3:00 sailing from Tsawwassen cancelled. SOVI in Active Pass as of her scheduled 4:00 departure from Swartz Bay, sailing is not yet displaying as cancelled. Coastal Celebration is running, albeit 9 minutes late.
Route 2: Queen of Oak Bay and Queen of Coquitlam running 1hr 15min late.
Route 30: Queen of New Westminster running 1hr 15min late. Coastal Inspiration is running, albeit 6 minutes late.
Route 6: Howe Sound Queen is holding at Vesuvius.
Route 17: North Island Princess extra roundtrip cancelled.
Route 19: Quinsam is running over 25 minutes late.
Route 20: Kuper is running over 25 minutes late.
Nothing can stop the German ferries! ;D
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Post by Retrovision on Nov 11, 2011 16:20:56 GMT -8
Strangely no notice yet of our SoBC's cancellation and passage by way of Boundary Pass instead of Active Pass, except for in the departures section.
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Nov 11, 2011 17:20:26 GMT -8
The SOBC is currently receiving assistance from Seaspan Raven just off of Point Roberts.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Nov 11, 2011 17:55:36 GMT -8
BC Ferries has horrible customer service. I had decided to do a roundtrip on the SOVI this afternoon as I was on my own and wasent doing anything tonight. Apparently the 3pm was cancelled and the 2pm was running late. The SOVI dident arrive at Swartz Bay till like 4:50p which was now the 5pm. I never ended up going I got a refund as it was getting to late but over the 1hr or more I was there not a single announcement telling people what was going on. Although I used the automated ticket machine so I dident talk to anyone so maybe they were telling people. But yeah, no ferry trip for me today. So why the heck could the SOVI leave Tsawwassen and not the SOBC?
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Post by Kam on Nov 11, 2011 18:10:17 GMT -8
The SOBC is currently receiving assistance from Seaspan Raven just off of Point Roberts. I have a friend on board. Apparently shes down to a single engine and needed help getting in to the dock.
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Post by glasseye on Nov 11, 2011 19:27:44 GMT -8
The Vancouver Sun is reporting that SOBC was dead in the water before reaching active pass on the 1pm sailing from SWB. It's not alarmist to say that BCFS dodged a bullet today. A lot of ferries with the misfortune to lose propulsion during bad weather have gone straight to the bottom with few survivors. Lessons urgently need to be learned from this incident.
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Nov 11, 2011 21:10:17 GMT -8
Weather Update:
Route 1: Coastal Celebration is still running and will sail for her scheduled 9:00 PM sailing from Tsawwassen. SOBC's 9:00 PM sailing from Swartz Bay has been cancelled.
Route 2: All sailings are cancelled for the evening.
Route 30: All sailings are cancelled for the evening.
Route 9: All sailings are cancelled for the evening.
Route 18: All sailings are cancelled for the evening.
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Post by Retrovision on Nov 11, 2011 21:50:13 GMT -8
The SOBC is currently receiving assistance from Seaspan Raven just off of Point Roberts. I have a friend on board. Apparently shes down to a single engine and needed help getting in to the dock. The Vancouver Sun is reporting that SOBC was dead in the water before reaching active pass on the 1pm sailing from SWB. It's not alarmist to say that BCFS dodged a bullet today. A lot of ferries with the misfortune to lose propulsion during bad weather have gone straight to the bottom with few survivors. Lessons urgently need to be learned from this incident. It's interesting to see her ( SoBC) AIS-tracking history showing her slowing down by 10 knots from 17 to 7 in a matter of minutes between Prevost Island and Otter Bay Terminal before not doing more than a few knots all the way to the south entrance of Active Pass before deciding to transit Boundary Pass instead and turn around. According to the statements in that Vancouver Sun story, however, she only was down to three engines, apparently purposely slowing down to seeming dead in the water to see the problem could be rectified before the pass. It was interesting to read in that Vancouver Sun story about a Prius being refused to be pushed ashore due to its weight, though. Unfortunately the story failed to follow-through and explain how that was rectified back at Tsawwassen Terminal. The effects of these winds can still be seen throgh AIS-tracking with tugs such as the Garth Foss and Sea Commander battening-down the hatches at Plumper Sound and Sucia Island respectively, let alone through the weather course that the Sea-Link Pusher is taking while struggling to maintain 6 knots on her way to Nanaimo as I type this, among other examples. 'Tis the season for these delays, but compare anything we might experience as passengers to this example and take stock: The Mauna Loa... SALMON BAY TOWING -- MAUNA LOA by valkyrie3, on Flickr ...Was heading for Port Alice and got all the way to as far north as being abreast with Tofino only to be forced to turn back for shelter apparently all the way south at the Strait of Juan de Fuca; now *that's* what I call a detour / delay.
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Post by chinook2 on Nov 11, 2011 22:50:58 GMT -8
I have a friend on board. Apparently shes down to a single engine and needed help getting in to the dock. The Vancouver Sun is reporting that SOBC was dead in the water before reaching active pass on the 1pm sailing from SWB. It's not alarmist to say that BCFS dodged a bullet today. A lot of ferries with the misfortune to lose propulsion during bad weather have gone straight to the bottom with few survivors. Lessons urgently need to be learned from this incident. It's interesting to see her ( SoBC) AIS-tracking history showing her slowing down by 10 knots from 17 to 7 in a matter of minutes between Prevost Island and Otter Bay Terminal before not doing more than a few knots all the way to the south entrance of Active Pass before deciding to transit Boundary Pass instead and turn around. According to the statements in that Vancouver Sun story, however, she only was down to three engines, apparently purposely slowing down to seeming dead in the water to see the problem could be rectified before the pass. It was interesting to read in that Vancouver Sun story about a Prius being refused to be pushed ashore due to its weight, though. Unfortunately the story failed to follow-through and explain how that was rectified back at Tsawwassen Terminal. The effects of these winds can still be seen throgh AIS-tracking with tugs such as the Garth Foss and Sea Commander battening-down the hatches at Plumper Sound and Sucia Island respectively, let alone through the weather course that the Sea-Link Pusher is taking while struggling to maintain 6 knots on her way to Nanaimo as I type this, among other examples. 'Tis the season for these delays, but compare anything we might experience as passengers to this example and take stock: The Mauna Loa... SALMON BAY TOWING -- MAUNA LOA by valkyrie3, on Flickr ...Was heading for Port Alice and got all the way to as far north as being abreast with Tofino only to be forced to turn back for shelter apparently all the way south at the Strait of Juan de Fuca; now *that's* what I call a detour / delay. Re the Prius: If the 12V (start up) battery is dead, the car cannot be pushed, as there is no way to put in neutral. However, jump starting it is very easy, if one reads the owner's manual. And, if the hybrid battery is shot, the car will start, and the engine will keep running, albeit with a lot of warning lights flashing on the dash. Something the deck crews could and should be equipped to deal with. a Booster pack from canadian tire, and the knowledge of where to hook it up to.
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Post by glasseye on Nov 14, 2011 21:11:55 GMT -8
Today's Delays:
Route #1 - SOBC - 51 minutes - Mechanical difficulties with terminal equipment, weather and operational delays throughout the day.
Route #1 - CC - 13 minutes - weather.
Route #30 - QoNW - 21 minutes - weather.
The Coastals seem to have an easier time in rough conditions than the older boats.
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Post by Retrovision on Nov 15, 2011 9:24:02 GMT -8
BTW, that Mauna Loa tug in fact wasn't simply going for shelter, someone had decided (for good reason) to route her back counter-clockwise around the island in order to deliver at Port Alice (a relative rarity for a U.S. tug), but even at the north island had to turn back to Hardy Bay before finally moving-on.
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Post by Nickfro on Nov 16, 2011 11:06:18 GMT -8
Currently the Kwuna and Tenaka have halted service due to high winds. It's gusting over 100 km/h in Sandspit right now.
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Post by electrotech on Nov 17, 2011 21:01:31 GMT -8
Re the Prius: If the 12V (start up) battery is dead, the car cannot be pushed, as there is no way to put in neutral. However, jump starting it is very easy, if one reads the owner's manual. And, if the hybrid battery is shot, the car will start, and the engine will keep running, albeit with a lot of warning lights flashing on the dash. Something the deck crews could and should be equipped to deal with. a Booster pack from canadian tire, and the knowledge of where to hook it up to. Crew are not allowed to jump start hybrid cars under any circumstances. My friend said that came down from the top. They do have booster packs onboard ship.
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Post by glasseye on Nov 18, 2011 16:52:15 GMT -8
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Post by Scott on Nov 18, 2011 17:52:00 GMT -8
Where's the Queen of Cowichan? I assume that she is completely destored so they can't quickly move her into service? It's pretty bad, since the 4 sailings they've had to cancel are probably four of the busiest sailings all week. PS. Here's the take on Twitter by BCFerrys BCFerrys: Ouch! We just moved Vancouver island about a metre to the left.
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Post by glasseye on Nov 18, 2011 18:22:52 GMT -8
Cowitchan is at Deas.
Loads on route #2 don't look that bad all things considered. Final sail from HSB tonight is showing 87% full with 28 minutes to go until cutoff and no toll booth lineups visible on webcam.
There's nothing BCFS could have done to maintain service short of entertaining nutty ideas like doing an extra SOVI round trip on route #1 and sending CC to serve route #2 or doing a very late sailing with the Capilano.
Things are going to get interesting (in the sense of the alleged Chinese curse) if Coquitlam is out of service for an extended period. There's nothing spare to come to the rescue.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Nov 18, 2011 21:14:34 GMT -8
Yeah they do have spare boats they can put the SOBC back into service and the Renny can go back to route 2 if they had to unless the SOBC is in refit.
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Nov 18, 2011 21:40:41 GMT -8
Just checked out BCF's reservation page....looks like the CELEBRATION is going to Departure Bay tomorrow!!!
I am assuming that because the SOBC wasn't scheduled to be used until Christmas she was probably de-stored, but the SOVI is able to take over for the CCel since the SOVI's #2 vessel anyway.
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Post by glasseye on Nov 20, 2011 3:25:22 GMT -8
SOBC's back in service for Sunday with 1.5 round trips scheduled. SOBC will end its in-service day at SWB after completing a 6pm sailing from TSA.
The 12pm departure from SWB--scheduled for the CC-- is cancelled on account of CC filling in on route #2.
In other service news:
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Post by Jacob on Nov 20, 2011 11:14:24 GMT -8
About the dead Hybrid issue, the reasons we (I'm a deckhand) can't jumpstart any hybrid, is because apparently, with some hybrids there is the possibility that if you connect the jump kit incorrectly you could somehow tie into the much higher voltage system the car has, possibly getting a severe shock, blowing up the battery or jump kit, or damaging the car. Also as someone mentioned above, at least with certain hybrids, you can not push or roll the car safely and in fact can void the vehichles warranty if you do. I have personally heard of damage occuring to a car to the tune of several thousand dollars from pushing it. I don't know which model hybrid it was. We as deckhands are not trained as car mechanics, and as there are now so many hybrid or electric vehichles on the market with varying voltages, battery locations, jump start locations etc, it was a decision the company took to both protect crew, and the passenger's car until such time as a full safety review has been completed and operational guidelines are available to us. That is currently being worked on by head office as of last I heard. So in the mean time, we do not touch hybrids. Professionals such as CAA or other towtruck operators are supposed to be trained in how to safely deal with these issues, so we leave it to them.
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Post by Ferryman on Nov 21, 2011 14:16:00 GMT -8
Apparently there wasn't a service notice about this? Queen of Nanaimo did not sail this morning due to weather. Still up in the air if she will sail this afternoon. Don't believe me? Here's proof from this morning at Long Harbour. (Car decks are closed to reduce the South Easterly winds that were blowing through the cardeck while Deckhands undertook ship husbandry duties)
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Post by Nick on Nov 21, 2011 14:33:01 GMT -8
Apparently there wasn't a service notice about this? Queen of Nanaimo did not sail this morning due to weather. Still up in the air if she will sail this afternoon. Don't believe me? Here's proof from this morning at Long Harbour. I have a service notice in my inbox from 7:26 Pacific stating the Nanny is holding at Long Harbour due to weather. It is expired now though.
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