Neil
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Post by Neil on Oct 23, 2015 21:47:36 GMT -8
A man and his ferry files should not be parted, so last time I came back to Hornby, I loaded my two banker's boxes into the car. Gave me a warm and fuzzy feeling. I've posted most of what might be interesting in the past, but there are a few items to sift through, just to make sure. This one from the Dolphin, but I'm afraid I don't have a date... judging by an article on the other side, might be 1988.
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Post by EGfleet on Dec 30, 2016 13:14:14 GMT -8
Just picked up this slide and thought I'd share.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 30, 2016 14:29:12 GMT -8
Just picked up this slide and thought I'd share. Thank you very much for posting this. Delta Princess photos are a rare treat.
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Post by princessofvanfan on Jan 1, 2017 23:58:22 GMT -8
Wow, great pic. Was this the only ship on this route?
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dave2
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Post by dave2 on Aug 2, 2017 18:22:07 GMT -8
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Post by mybidness459 on Feb 26, 2018 20:09:27 GMT -8
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Neil
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Post by Neil on Feb 26, 2018 22:02:24 GMT -8
Kind of mind blowing to look at the Delta Princess and think that a mere sixty years ago, that was the vessel that served the function that we now know to be, in 2018, the completely inadequate George Massey tunnel, that replaced her.
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Post by Starsteward on Feb 27, 2018 18:47:42 GMT -8
Kind of mind blowing to look at the Delta Princess and think that a mere sixty years ago, that was the vessel that served the function that we now know to be, in 2018, the completely inadequate George Massey tunnel, that replaced her. Back in the day,.....way back, ...I remember as a young lad going to the beach at White Rock, either by car or via the Pacific Stage Lines buses out of New Westminster and I imagine that the route of travel must have been over the Pattullo Bridge all the way through Surrey via the King George Highway as I'm positive that the wheels of my Daddies old Nash never graced the wooden deck of the Delta Princess. To the best of my recollection, the first ferry I ever rode on was one of the ferries that one had to engage crossing Lake Okanagan into Kelowna. And, ..since 'Neil' brought it up, the George Massey tunnel HAS proved its' worth over 60 years and needs to be: 1) enlarged with 2 more lanes in each direction and the current tunnel being upgraded, seismically etc. There is absolutely no need to build a 'Port Mann' type bridge across that piece of the Fraser river. The tunnel just needs to be made bigger and given the topography of the area, unless my memory fails me, there is nothing but flat land surfaces, (and the river) to contend with in its construction. Eight lanes of traffic can be blended into less lanes, North and South on both sides of the tunnel as required. In the event that the 'earth quake' alarmists muscle into the crossing replacement conversation and tell us that new seismic ie. earthquake info. says that a tunnel would be severely damaged in a 7+ earthquake, I would double check to see if those folks had any ties to any 'Bridge Building' companies.
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Post by mybidness459 on Feb 28, 2018 18:35:46 GMT -8
If I recall correctly, Vesuvius Queen used to run in Kelowna before the bridge was built. The VQ is the Sister ship to the Delta Princess, AKA Salt Spring Queen. Once the Bridge was built the vessel was transported to the Coast and I heard somewhere that it too did a stint with the Delta Princess on the Woodwards Landing run. (The Ships of BC?) mentioned it, or it was in another book.
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Post by WettCoast on Feb 28, 2018 21:10:04 GMT -8
If I recall correctly, Vesuvius Queen used to run in Kelowna before the bridge was built. The VQ is the Sister ship to the Delta Princess, AKA Salt Spring Queen. Once the Bridge was built the vessel was transported to the Coast and I heard somewhere that it too did a stint with the Delta Princess on the Woodwards Landing run. (The Ships of BC?) mentioned it, or it was in another book. It was also, for a relatively short time, the 'Bowen Queen'.
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Neil
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Post by Neil on Feb 28, 2018 21:47:39 GMT -8
If I recall correctly, Vesuvius Queen used to run in Kelowna before the bridge was built. The VQ is the Sister ship to the Delta Princess, AKA Salt Spring Queen. Once the Bridge was built the vessel was transported to the Coast and I heard somewhere that it too did a stint with the Delta Princess on the Woodwards Landing run. (The Ships of BC?) mentioned it, or it was in another book. There's no evidence I can see that the Vesuvius Queen ever served at the Ladner crossing. On the other hand, the Okanagan bridge was opened in '58, and she didn't serve as the first Bowen Queen until '63, so I guess it's possible.
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Post by Neil on Feb 28, 2018 23:12:53 GMT -8
Go to the BC Nautical History facebook page for what appears to me to be an all time record for The Most Sheep Walking Onto a Ferry. Great shot.
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Post by Nick on Mar 1, 2018 0:57:10 GMT -8
Go to the BC Nautical History facebook page for what appears to me to be an all time record for The Most Sheep Walking Onto a Ferry. Great shot. I wonder how much BCF would charge for that trip nowadays? Do they classify as kids?
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Post by WettCoast on Mar 1, 2018 8:57:43 GMT -8
Go to the BC Nautical History facebook page for what appears to me to be an all time record for The Most Sheep Walking Onto a Ferry. Great shot. I was working on a modern day caption for that photo, Neil. Something like ... "More sheep board BC ferry prior to being fleeced".
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Post by mybidness459 on Mar 1, 2018 12:37:15 GMT -8
If I recall correctly, Vesuvius Queen used to run in Kelowna before the bridge was built. The VQ is the Sister ship to the Delta Princess, AKA Salt Spring Queen. Once the Bridge was built the vessel was transported to the Coast and I heard somewhere that it too did a stint with the Delta Princess on the Woodwards Landing run. (The Ships of BC?) mentioned it, or it was in another book. There's no evidence I can see that the Vesuvius Queen ever served at the Ladner crossing. On the other hand, the Okanagan bridge was opened in '58, and she didn't serve as the first Bowen Queen until '63, so I guess it's possible. It's been along time since I've seen my copy of the Ships of British Columbia but I believe it is mentioned in the back of the book under either the VQ or SSQ that she and her sister operated that run. If someone has a copy of the book maybe they can look it up and confirm. Meanwhile I will try to find my copy...good luck with that. It could be mentioned elsewhere in that book to.
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Post by Neil on Mar 1, 2018 18:24:59 GMT -8
There's no evidence I can see that the Vesuvius Queen ever served at the Ladner crossing. On the other hand, the Okanagan bridge was opened in '58, and she didn't serve as the first Bowen Queen until '63, so I guess it's possible. It's been along time since I've seen my copy of the Ships of British Columbia but I believe it is mentioned in the back of the book under either the VQ or SSQ that she and her sister operated that run. If someone has a copy of the book maybe they can look it up and confirm. Meanwhile I will try to find my copy...good luck with that. It could be mentioned elsewhere in that book to. Bannerman p.20 does mention the Vesuvius Queen at Ladner, but he also contradicts himself by saying she started out there, after he mentions her service on the Okanagan. The only pictures I've seen of the Ladner route show the Delta Princess. Maybe the Delta Archives could help.
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Post by mybidness459 on Mar 1, 2018 20:05:52 GMT -8
It's been along time since I've seen my copy of the Ships of British Columbia but I believe it is mentioned in the back of the book under either the VQ or SSQ that she and her sister operated that run. If someone has a copy of the book maybe they can look it up and confirm. Meanwhile I will try to find my copy...good luck with that. It could be mentioned elsewhere in that book to. Bannerman p.20 does mention the Vesuvius Queen at Ladner, but he also contradicts himself by saying she started out there, after he mentions her service on the Okanagan. The only pictures I've seen of the Ladner route show the Delta Princess. Maybe the Delta Archives could help. Thanks Neil. I am currently in Victoria and will check out the Delta archive when I get a chance. Got a 2 or hour drive home.
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Post by wetcoastdave on Dec 4, 2018 19:47:19 GMT -8
Saltspring Queen. Officially using Saltspring as one word, unlike the island, Salt Spring Island. Was built to operate where currently is the Massey tunnel (in Delta BC) and it's name then was Delta Princess. It was renamed Saltspring Queen and ran mostly from Fulford to Swartz bay and then as a relief vessel througout the fleet. A similar designed vessel named Vesuvius Queen was originally built for the Westside to Kelowna route until the floating bridge was made. It was named the Lloyd-Jones. The Lloyd-Jones was cut up and returned to the coast of BC and re-named the Bowen Queen for a short time and then re-named Vesuvius Queen. The Saltspring Queen was last seen with no superstructure and functioning as a barge tied up to a dock either in NewWestminster or Mission City. The Saltspring Queen was never cut up and transported anywhere. The Vesuvius Queen was cut up and transported to the Okanagan, re-assembled there, and cut up again and transported to the west coast and re-assembled yet again. The Saltspring Queen was a rivited hull. The Vesuvius Queen was also a rivited hull but one could clearly see both of the weld lines from each time it had been stitched together. Bannerman is noted for miss-information. Please don't quote his errors.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 4, 2018 20:25:25 GMT -8
Bannerman is noted for miss-information. Please don't quote his errors. What are Bannerman's errors? (I presume that you mean Gary Bannerman who wrote "The Ships of British Columbia.") Context please.
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dave2
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Post by dave2 on Dec 4, 2018 20:51:38 GMT -8
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 4, 2018 21:09:03 GMT -8
Saltspring Queen. Officially using Saltspring as one word, unlike the island, Salt Spring Island. Not according to the photos I have. She was indeed Salt Spring Queen. See this Rick Horne photo ...
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 4, 2018 21:25:41 GMT -8
While we are at it, can we please correct the name of this thread?
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Post by wetcoastdave on Dec 4, 2018 21:39:32 GMT -8
Well you might have seen it incorrectly painted on the side of the vessel, but the official registration listed it as Saltspring Queen. At least it was when I was working on her. I doubt that someone officially changed it's name to Salt Spring Queen.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 4, 2018 21:59:19 GMT -8
Well you might have seen it incorrectly painted on the side of the vessel, but the official registration listed it as Saltspring Queen. At least it was when I was working on her. I doubt that someone officially changed it's name to Salt Spring Queen. Next time, just tell us what you mean, and the purpose of the post, right at the start. Thanks.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 4, 2018 22:00:38 GMT -8
Here's an old record: HERE
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