Ferry Boat Drawings and Models

[zargoman]

I cant imagine how much more crowded the passenger cabins of WSF boats would be if people were not permitted to stay in their vehicles. Particularilly on the Southworth/Vashon/Fauntleroy and Edmonds/Kingston route. They seem to be full of cars, but there are always lots of seats in the cabin.

[whidbeyislandguy]

So I thought i would do something for fun. being as how once again there is talk in Island county about a ferry between Whidbey and Camano islands.

Enjoy!





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[lifc]

I think it's a great idea, just do not know how well Pierce County will deal with you making off with their Ferries.

Jim

[whidbeyislandguy]

Mar 24, 2010 21:30:31 GMT -8 lifc said:

I think it's a great idea, just do not know how well Pierce County will deal with you making off with their Ferries.

Jim

My point was build 2 like them.

Well here is another one for you then.

Evergreen has seen this already.




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[lifc]

I am curious, where would the Terminals be located, how long would the run be?

While it's cute, I am afraid the Rody just might be a bit too old and take too many crew to run. The PC types are my all around favorites, I like the lenghtened ones, add 36 feet and get 66 cars, for very little extra money. You might be able to get by, at first, with just one of the longer models than two of the shorter ones. I like the looks of both of the PC types, but if you were going to build two, I would make then identical and favor the STII format as it has a nicer cabin. Sure would not have to go far to get them made.

K class ferries can be run, with far less crew, 3 or 4 for short runs, which makes it a lot more appealing and possible for smaller Ferry operations. I know the 66 car model can still be a K, the 72 car model is on the line. For the short runs, the Central Pilot house would likely be best.

You might be interested in my IFCA posting.

Jim

[whidbeyislandguy]

Mar 24, 2010 22:58:38 GMT -8 lifc said:

I am curious, where would the Terminals be located, how long would the run be?

While it's cute, I am afraid the Rody just might be a bit too old and take too many crew to run. The PC types are my all around favorites, I like the lenghtened ones, add 36 feet and get 66 cars, for very little extra money. You might be able to get by, at first, with just one of the longer models than two of the shorter ones. I like the looks of both of the PC types, but if you were going to build two, I would make then identical and favor the STII format as it has a nicer cabin. Sure would not have to go far to get them made.

K class ferries can be run, with far less crew, 3 or 4 for short runs, which makes it a lot more appealing and possible for smaller Ferry operations. I know the 66 car model can still be a K, the 72 car model is on the line. For the short runs, the Central Pilot house would likely be best.

You might be interested in my IFCA posting.

Jim

It doesn't matter as neither will happen. Kind of like there is no such thing as a longer as PC type ferry. (as you put it)

There has been talk of doing a ferry there for 30 years. and it hasn't happened yet. Not since the old Acorn.

[lifc]

The Acorn was our spare boat when I was a kid. It was owned by Bob Granger, grandson of one of the original Lummi Island settlers, and leased to the County. My older brother said that when it arrived here, it said Port Gamble-Shine Ferry on it.

After Bob sold the boat, it was used as a Ferry somewhere down sound. Last time I saw it, in the late 1970s, the owners had bait tanks on it.

I am curious, when and where did it run between Canamo and Whidbey?

Jim

[whidbeyislandguy]

Might not be the same one, this was the late 20's early 30's. Here is a link to the photo of it on evergreens site.

www.evergreenfleet.com/rogues.html

[lifc]

That is definitely the same boat. It was powered by a four cylinder 75 HP Atlas Diesel,its counterpart, the County owned 1929 Cheif Kwina had a three cylinder 90 HP Atlas in it. Both were six car boats. On overload days in the summer it was cool to me, as a small kid, to see them running together and passing each other in the middle of the pass. The Kwina was a much more solid boat than the Acorn. Both were replaced in 1962 with the "new" Whatcom Chief. The County maintained the Kwina as a spare until about 1970 when they sold it to Frank Granger, Bob's brother. The Kwina has been made into a fish tender and still operates out of Bellingham.

Still curious about when and where the Acorn ran at Camano.

Jim

[Kahloke]

Mar 25, 2010 11:29:02 GMT -8 lifc said:

Still curious about when and where the Acorn ran at Camano.

According to the photo on EGFleet's site, it appears that Utsalady was the site of the Camano Island terminal, if the labels on the side of the ferry were any indication.

[whidbeyislandguy]

well I did this drawing awhile ago and it has been posted before. But i thought I'd do it again.


Looking through some of my photos cause I know I have some old pics of the acorn in Utsalady bay somewhere.




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[lifc]

That's a fairly long run, over 10 miles. The Acorn was no speedster, might have done 7 knots, would have been about an hour and a half on the water, in that little thing. People must have been tougher than they are now.
If a new route is to be established, a shorter passage ought to be found.

Jim

[Barnacle]

Actually, Utsalady to Oak Harbor (downtown, not Kalamut Island) is only 7.3 miles. Still, that would've been an hour-long ride.

And I still think a Camano-Whidbey run would only be of benefit to those living on Camano Island.

[whidbeyislandguy]

Mar 26, 2010 18:32:02 GMT -8 Barnacle said:

Actually, Utsalady to Oak Harbor (downtown, not Kalamut Island) is only 7.3 miles. Still, that would've been an hour-long ride.

And I still think a Camano-Whidbey run would only be of benefit to those living on Camano Island.

You would be correct Barnacle. And that would be why it will be only talk, as it just isn't worth it.. Doesn't matter how many times of the last 30 - 40 years it has been, it just talk! I for one wouldn't want to see my county waste that kind of money!

[whidbeyislandguy]

So I have post the Andy in the past, now I thought's I'd post the Champ..



Enjoy

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[chokai]

Mar 26, 2010 18:32:02 GMT -8 Barnacle said:

And I still think a Camano-Whidbey run would only be of benefit to those living on Camano Island.

I'd probably agree few people would use it, but it could be really useful to the county. I'm actually kinda surprised they don't still have one, even if it's for official use only, now that I think about it.

But as a sidebar depending on how long the run is and how quickly you can get from the dock on Camano to I-5 I'd use it if the wait at Clinton is long enough that driving around becomes more time efficient, and vice versa for that matter. Anything to avoid the hell that is getting from the corner to I-5 on a Sunday evening.

[Barnacle]

You mean you didn't know that Camano Island was the middle of nowhere when you moved there? ;D

[whidbeyislandguy]

Warning this is a dark drawing, so you best have a sense of humor about this..







Again Warning Do not look at drawing if you can’t laugh at dark things…..
















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[lmtengs]

Haha

Nice

Too bad about those two, though
I wonder what's gonna be done with Quinault's Hull? Maybe they'll build a new superstructure on it, or will they just hack it into pieces?

[Barnacle]

Once again, given that those boats arrived in Mexico in September, I'm pretty sure those photos are months old and the boats are long gone.

[BreannaF]

Apr 29, 2010 17:41:03 GMT -8 @whidbeyislandguy said:

Warning this is a dark drawing, so you best have a sense of humor about this..

Thank you! This is absolutely the funniest thing I have seen all week.

Dark ferry geek humour..... ;D

[whidbeyislandguy]

An Oldie that is long since gone.. For evergreen..

CITY of ANGELES










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[nearhoff]

Freeland, I hope this reaches you. I am Willis Nearhoff's Great-granddaughter and am looking for more information from his Whidbey Island Days as well as photos.

Do you have any contacts? I know that there is a photo of the City Of Clinton at the Coupeville Inn but I have never had any sucess getting a hold of the collection owner.

My parents basement has a painting that makes it appear as though you are standing on a a boat deck looking out into the Sound with life preservers naming all or at least many of the boats the family built.

[lifc]

There are two photos of the City of Clinton in the Whatcom County Museum Photo Achive. They were taken when it was on the short lived Lummi Island to Orcas route in the summer of 1927. I do not know if the local operators, John Cocoran and Hi Tuttle owned the vessel or leased it.The run lasted only one year as the boat burned over the off-season and that ended the venture. The dock at Legoe Bay lingered for some years until the local Cannery who owned the property it was on, pulled the pilings. My Family bought the Cannery Land Holding Company in the 1930s and we still own the dock site. I believe the Orcas Landing was at Olga.

I think the pictures are in the Galen Bierry collection there.

Jim

[lifc]

Does anyone have a CAD drawing of our County Ferry, the Whatcom Chief? Some of my fellow Islanders would like to see it in the same frame as other Ferries, like the Chrisitine Anderson or Steilacoom II to see the size difference.

Thanks, Jim