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Post by Curtis on Jun 8, 2005 7:25:40 GMT -8
I realy wonder what the Super 'C's are going to look like on the inside. Probably like the S Class or the C Class interior
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Post by YZFNick on Jun 8, 2005 7:32:28 GMT -8
Don't forget the Otter stairwell and the Starfish or the Sea Slug stairwells.
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Post by Quinsam on Jun 18, 2005 21:44:05 GMT -8
I went up to the bridge again! I went up to the bridge again! With 2 buddies from school, I went up to the Saanich's bridge as I have a friend that is a chief steward on Saanich. We got into the open water and there was some kind of trouble ahead, a small coastal freightor was in our ship path, Queen of Nanaimo was alongside us coming into Tsawwassen.
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Post by CN2972South on Jun 19, 2005 11:39:44 GMT -8
I was doing some reading on those AZ pods, they are very interesting equipment. With the pods' ability to rotate 360 degrees they only need to mount them at one end of the new Super C's and because there is no mechanical drive(the engines powers the electric motors on the pod) between the props and the engines, it is a much smoother ride.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jun 19, 2005 14:32:51 GMT -8
if BCF was still public the ships would be the way they have been still. Could it be possible to do a public private merger?
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Post by Doug on Jun 20, 2005 23:43:54 GMT -8
The fleet has a lot of variety, and you think that they are going to be "different than the rest?" Some people probably thought the same about the "S" Class ferries when they were built, but we're used to them now.
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Post by Dane on Jun 22, 2005 0:02:19 GMT -8
The ships, in generalities were designed far before BCF became private, and the order was withheld until the ownership of BCFS was transfered.
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Post by Doug on Nov 15, 2005 15:24:38 GMT -8
Check out the ACTUAL artist's rendering of the Super "C"s. ;D
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 15, 2005 16:37:26 GMT -8
....Oh the humanity!
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Post by Balfour on Nov 15, 2005 18:59:48 GMT -8
LOL! That's hilarious!
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Post by Starbucks Queen on Nov 19, 2005 14:34:10 GMT -8
Hm.. that is YOUR point of view. Here, in Germany we call the whole thing developement - aid !!
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Post by Curtis on Nov 20, 2005 9:47:49 GMT -8
Oh no the Nazis of BC Ferries LOL
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Post by Starbucks Queen on Nov 20, 2005 12:43:35 GMT -8
Well, after all there was an idea once - Volkswagen can be translated like "PeopleĀ“s car". What about us, giving YOU "ferries for the people" - and may they last as long and be as relieable as the cars from here Canadians are not very well known for their technology-exports right ?
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Post by Balfour on Nov 20, 2005 15:52:44 GMT -8
No, we're better known for raw materials like Lumber from BC, or Oil from Alberta.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Nov 20, 2005 15:59:13 GMT -8
Shipping them off to wasteful US. I dont know why but it is like Canada wants to sell itself to the US. That would make em go bankrupt LOL
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Post by Ferryman on Nov 20, 2005 16:25:49 GMT -8
Yeah we might as well be freakin' American! I can't believe they sold the Hudsons Bay Company to the US! They're getting everything from us. Our power from the those Damned Dams in the Kootenays, Special Pipelines of Natural Gas that go straight into US, plus they failed at making a tunnel from BC to Washington to transport BC Bud. What else is left that we still have that they don't.....
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Nov 20, 2005 16:29:18 GMT -8
Oh yeah and the US wants to import fat addiction to Canada and it is just right now getting rid of all the differences between the US and Canada.
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Post by Doug on Nov 20, 2005 16:29:33 GMT -8
Did you know the Americans want to build a power plant (powered by gas) just south of Sumas in Abbotsford...that pisses me off so much. We have QUITE enough power here, so I think they are doing it just to have the pollution away from Seattle. They will have a pipeline running UP there and a power line running DOWN. Why is it by the border? Good question. It's a good thing the people of Sumas are fighting for such a i swear too much idea.
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Post by Doug on Nov 20, 2005 16:32:46 GMT -8
Who is at the helm of this all? It's the federal and provincial Liberals. It has nothing to do with the American government or the major buyers in the US. Someone has to buy them...but the Liberals are at fault of all of this. Fortunately, the BC Ferries deal was a pretty good one with only one American executive member: Hahn. It wasn't sold to a company either.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Nov 20, 2005 16:33:53 GMT -8
THAT IS JUST DUMB TO HAVE A PIPLINE GOING UP AND POWER GOING DOWN! That is just as stupid as suing burger king for being fat.
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Post by Doug on Nov 20, 2005 16:39:43 GMT -8
There is one thing the American government is at fault for though: our exports. They have caused problems with both our beef and lumber exports and enough is enough. One good thing the federal Liberals are doing is trying to resolve the lumber dispute.... I read in the newspaper a couple days ago that a kid wants Canadians to boycott McDonalds because of the lumber dispute. He is 11...and that is a stupid idea if you ask me. McDonalds may not have the most "pleasing" food, but they have absolutely nothing to do with it. The ones to suffer will be us, as many Canadians work in the restaurants and McDonalds is capable of surviving without Canadian customers. The American government is by no means going to act upon McDonalds bankruptcy if it were to happen.
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Post by Scott on Nov 20, 2005 22:01:32 GMT -8
Let's clear up some things...
The Hudson's Bay Company was/is a hostile takeover... no one is "selling" it off. It's also not final. It's not owned by the Canadian government or any government, but shareholders. Welcome to the free enterprise world.
We in B.C. generate a lot of electricity, yes, but we do use almost as much as we generate. Selling electricity has been going on for a long time (what's wrong with that?), but some forcasts indicate we will be importing electricity ourselves in a couple years.
An American company wants to build a power plant near the border, but it's not likely to happen because the transmission lines through Canada have been disallowed by every authority in Canada up to the Supreme Court... so I doubt it will happen.
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 12, 2005 16:26:48 GMT -8
That's an interesting point that I never even thought of! It might be easier to tow the ferry over here as a shell (with no interior decoration at all) and then let that company deal with the rest of the work at Deas. I believe most of the stuff they put on the C-Class in the mid-life refits are purchased from companies in and around Vancouver, and they're installing the same type of stuff on the Super C's. So it would most likely be cheaper to truck everything out to Deas to be installed, instead of shipping it out to Germany. Plus if they did the interior in Germany, they would have to fly the crew out there from that comany in Vancouver to install it all, and then come back.
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Post by Dane on Dec 12, 2005 18:40:00 GMT -8
The Super C's were not designed before the spin off of BCFS. They (BC Ferries) put out an open tender to a number of shipyards around the world, BUT because BC has a history of political interferences with major capital projects a number of yards refuse to bid for the job. I understand from Lloyd's (Classification Society) that the designs between the three remaining yards where very different in style and though. I am surprised that a "local" design company has won the rights to design & fit out the internal of the Super C's and it would appear that this work - just might be done on the Coast. Maybe this is the deal they made to stop the 25% tax been applied to the total cost of the vessel. The general specifications and such have been drawn up for the Super Cs for a long time. They were to go out to tender just before the Liberals came into power, but b/c of the mess and debt BC Ferries had found itself in b/c of FastCats it never went ahead. Other than the FastCats, it would be hard to find a ship in the fleet that had substantial gov't intervention, above and beyond the usual. Considering ships haven't really been built for the fleet in over 20 years anyways.
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 12, 2005 19:22:08 GMT -8
What about the Spirits? What about the Cappie and Cumbie? What about the Skeena? Those were all built within the last 12 years.....
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