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Post by WettCoast on Jan 26, 2009 18:10:26 GMT -8
You may have to come north to Prince Rupert if you want to take in this 'Open Ship'.
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 26, 2009 21:14:00 GMT -8
Sounds like fun! Will this ship actually be able to dock at any of the southern non-ISO compliant berths in order to take on cars?
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 26, 2009 22:11:15 GMT -8
Sounds like fun! Will this ship actually be able to dock at any of the southern non-ISO compliant berths in order to take on cars? Why not? The ISO Compliant is a current design aspect for new berths (not a compulsory "she can only dock at Skidegate, Rupert and McLoughlin and Bear Cove") . If she can dock at let's say Departure Bay or Deas, she can dock at Tsawwassen. I am assuming that she can not dock via the stern at any of the south coast berths due to her rather large posterior. That means that she would have to go in via the bow. Will the bow visor interfere with docking? If the NorEx can dock in southern unmodified berths than why has BCFS just spent $30 million to modify 4 North Coast berths? Does anyone know for sure what the status is re the NorEx being able to use South Coast berths? I recall that berth 5 at Tsawwassen, as originally built, was designed to allow the QPR and QotN to dock via the bow. Once berth 5 was double decked and converted for use by the Spirits, the northern boats had to dock via the stern at other berths (either 1 or 2 at Tsawwassen).
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Post by rt1commuter on Jan 26, 2009 22:59:47 GMT -8
I'm assuming there will be an open house in Victoria and Vancouver like with the CR?
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Post by herrbrinkmann on Jan 27, 2009 6:22:27 GMT -8
some last (maybe forever) updates from today on my picasa-site
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Post by Northern Exploration on Jan 27, 2009 7:32:19 GMT -8
Thanks Markus. Not necessarily your last pics of the NorEx. Don't forget you will need to take some when you are sailing on her on the Inside Passage next year .
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Post by shipchandler on Jan 27, 2009 10:37:23 GMT -8
some last (maybe forever) updates from today on my picasa-site You should definately come over here someday Markus, you would love it in the summer and don`t forget to see us on the television in 2010,take care my friend.....
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Post by norex on Jan 27, 2009 11:53:56 GMT -8
OK, about the southern berths, the NOREX will not fit in any of them, bow to, nor stern to. This is why BC Ferries is presently building (at Deas Dock) an "adaptor" pontoon that will have one pointy end that will fit into at least 2 southern berths, and the other end is flat to accommodate the Expedition's stern. This pontoon will be towed from Deas a few days prior to her arrival in Departure Bay Berth one, where she will be for about 4 weeks before heading north.
Cheers.
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 27, 2009 18:09:39 GMT -8
OK, about the southern berths, the NOREX will not fit in any of them, bow to, nor stern to. This is why BC Ferries is presently building (at Deas Dock) an "adaptor" pontoon that will have one pointy end that will fit into at least 2 southern berths, and the other end is flat to accommodate the Expedition's stern. This pontoon will be towed from Deas a few days prior to her arrival in Departure Bay Berth one, where she will be for about 4 weeks before heading north. Cheers. Questions for you 'norex'. 1 - I assume that the same holds for the NorAd - can not use any south coast berth unless this pontoon adaptor is in place? I expect that the stern additions added to the NorAd when she first came to BC have now been removed? I do not believe that I have ever seen a photo of the NorAd at any south coast berth, other than at Deas. 2 - The decision to go with ISO compliant berthing has cost BCFS plenty of money - $30 million for dock conversions alone. Was this made necessary when BCFS opted to purchase of the NorAd? 3 - Am I right in thinking that repositioning cruises are rather unlikely if a south coast destination can not accommodate either ship without a pontoon adapter first being positioned at the receiving berth? 4 - Do you think it likely that ISO berth compliant requirements will be coming to south coast vessels & berth any time soon?
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Post by Mike C on Jan 27, 2009 21:00:19 GMT -8
1 - I assume that the same holds for the NorAd - can not use any south coast berth unless this pontoon adaptor is in place? I expect that the stern additions added to the NorAd when she first came to BC have now been removed? I do not believe that I have ever seen a photo of the NorAd at any south coast berth, other than at Deas. I saw her docket a Berth 2 Tsawwassen at one point. She was unable to fit into the berth properly (parked stern-in) and the ramp did not reach her.
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Post by norex on Jan 27, 2009 21:23:57 GMT -8
OK, about the southern berths, the NOREX will not fit in any of them, bow to, nor stern to. This is why BC Ferries is presently building (at Deas Dock) an "adaptor" pontoon that will have one pointy end that will fit into at least 2 southern berths, and the other end is flat to accommodate the Expedition's stern. This pontoon will be towed from Deas a few days prior to her arrival in Departure Bay Berth one, where she will be for about 4 weeks before heading north. Cheers. Questions for you 'norex'. 1 - I assume that the same holds for the NorAd - can not use any south coast berth unless this pontoon adaptor is in place? I expect that the stern additions added to the NorAd when she first came to BC have now been removed? I do not believe that I have ever seen a photo of the NorAd at any south coast berth, other than at Deas. 2 - The decision to go with ISO compliant berthing has cost BCFS plenty of money - $30 million for dock conversions alone. Was this made necessary when BCFS opted to purchase of the NorAd? 3 - Am I right in thinking that repositioning cruises are rather unlikely if a south coast destination can not accommodate either ship without a pontoon adapter first being positioned at the receiving berth? 4 - Do you think it likely that ISO berth compliant requirements will be coming to south coast vessels & berth any time soon? Answer 1: This adaptor is mainly for the Norex. I do not know if the Norad will fit, may be it will. Answer 2: No, before the Qn of the North sank, they were already going with a square stern for fuel economy with hull design. Though with the Norad, some modifications to the Norex design & berth designs were nessacerry. Note that the berths in the North Coast were due to be re-done in the next few years anyway. Answer 3: Yes. An adaptor would be required. Answer 4: No, but who knows.
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Post by yardobserver on Jan 28, 2009 13:41:59 GMT -8
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Post by norex on Jan 28, 2009 14:00:12 GMT -8
Yeah, really sad...
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Post by Dane on Jan 28, 2009 14:49:29 GMT -8
Have they finished the blue stripe yet?
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Post by Curtis on Jan 28, 2009 15:58:09 GMT -8
I guess this is the end of the line for regular stops at the FSG Website. At least for a little while I hope...Maybe BCFS will order a 4th Coastal someday...or the Northern Discovery...or maybe something new and exciting. Oh well, I have enjoyed watching our RO-ROs grow. I give my thanks to Markus, Gerhard, and anyone else who has contributed to the forum during the building of the Coastals and the Northern Expedition. Cheers!
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Post by FNS on Jan 28, 2009 19:26:28 GMT -8
I guess this is the end of the line for regular stops at the FSG Website. At least for a little while I hope...Maybe BCFS will order a 4th Coastal someday...or the Northern Discovery...or maybe something new and exciting. Oh well, I have enjoyed watching our RO-ROs grow. I give my thanks to Markus, Gerhard, and anyone else who has contributed to the forum during the building of the Coastals and the Northern Expedition. Cheers! End of regular visits to FSG's website? I say no on this one. As said on a previous posting, I'm a grandson of a late shipbuilder. After FSG began streaming web cam videos of amazing shipbuilding work, I am hooked on this for life! This is an amazing company to see and am very appreciative of what Mr. Brinkmann and his workmates have done for us. I say many thanks to FSG. I'll be tapping into their site indefinitely and watching the new builds for as long as the cameras are active (even if they become filtered by spider webs ;D). For Mr. Brinkmann, your freight version RoRo ships are not boring at all. They're beautiful ships. Better looking than the ones I have been seeing here, especially those UN beauties. Keep up the great work! No stopping watching FSG shipbuilding on my part!
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Post by webgardener on Jan 28, 2009 22:13:10 GMT -8
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Post by FNS on Jan 28, 2009 22:27:11 GMT -8
Now, that's one enormous shipyard! Still cameras, though. Advantage: FSG
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Post by Ian on Jan 28, 2009 22:56:29 GMT -8
Meyer Werft is the shipyard that built such ships as Royal Caribbean's Radiance Class as well as the new Celebrity Cruise Lines Solstice Class. The Celebrity Solstice launched last september is the biggest ship built in germany, 120 000 tons.
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Post by FNS on Jan 29, 2009 0:12:27 GMT -8
Meanwhile, if all goes as planned, this is the last full day the workers at FSG and the citizens of Flensburg will see a magnificent new passenger ship for awhile. This great town will see her off tomorrow. We will then swap threads and begin the sailing coverage on the "MV NORTHERN EXPEDITION Delivery" thread in this "BC Ferries - New Vessels" sector. Inside, the next RoRo is progressing handsomely! Outside, the NE is in final preparations for sea and that Turkish ship is in good hands with her finishers.
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Post by DENelson83 on Jan 29, 2009 0:49:29 GMT -8
Before we get to muster stations for the delivery cruise,... Muster stations? I thought people on board go to muster stations when they're about to abandon ship.
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Post by Dane on Jan 29, 2009 0:52:26 GMT -8
Before we get to muster stations for the delivery cruise,... Muster stations? I thought people on board go to muster stations when they're about to abandon ship. On a cruise ship, or some other long distance voyages you go to your muster station before departure or any festivities.
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Post by gordon on Jan 29, 2009 8:19:53 GMT -8
There is a pre-departure safety drill on cruise ships and a big part ofthat is having all passengers assemble at their various muster stations
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Post by Starsteward on Jan 29, 2009 20:43:53 GMT -8
True story: While working on the Queen of Prince Rupert, I was stopped in the companionway on Prom deck by an elderly female passenger who asked me: where is this Mustard Station they keep announcing on the p.a. system? She said her daughter, with whom she was travelling, said it probably had something to do with the location fo the cafeteria entrance. Grinning, but remainly highly professional, ...ahem... I related to the dear lady that indeed there was no "D" on the end of the word muster and went on to give her the proper information. After getting the now informed passengwer taken care of, I proceeded to the Purser's Office, and told the relief Assistant Chief Steward to take a wee bit of his Scottish brogue off the p.a. announcements as what with the brogue and the usual less than high quality p.a. system onboard the QPR at times, he was confusing folks, to which he replied: Achhh, way with ya lad! Ha Ha. True story. Looking forward with very mixed emotions to sailing on the QPR's last round trip, as many of these funny little stories will pop up while I'm aboard.
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Post by FNS on Jan 29, 2009 21:14:59 GMT -8
Oh, I could hide 'neath the wings of a bluebird as she sings. The six o'clock alarm wouldn't ring. But, it rings. And I rise. Wipe the sleep out of my eyes. The shaving razor's cold and it stings. -Daydream Believer, Davy Jones, Monkees Rise and shine, you great folks at Flensburg and us night owls here in the Pacific time zone. If all goes well, this is sailing day for the NORTHERN EXPEDITION.
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