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Post by Quatchi on Sept 12, 2007 21:01:20 GMT -8
I know many of you have helped me with my project yet I haven't said to much about what I am actually doing. So I have started a website out of my basement. www.queenofchilliwack.caI now it is simple but like everything it is a work in progress and will hopefully be updated on Fridays. Have Fun and Thanks Any comments much appreciated
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Post by Mike C on Sept 16, 2007 18:09:43 GMT -8
Fantastic website - thanks for sharing.
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Post by Quatchi on Sept 21, 2007 22:01:10 GMT -8
Well I have my first step of construction posted.
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Post by Quatchi on Oct 1, 2007 12:31:36 GMT -8
I just added some more pictures and Info.
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Post by Nick on Oct 1, 2007 15:21:05 GMT -8
Looks good so far!!
Keep it up.
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Post by Quatchi on Nov 11, 2007 19:40:15 GMT -8
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Post by Nick on Nov 11, 2007 20:16:18 GMT -8
Hey Cadmunkey,
I like the design, it seems relatively simple and easy to manufacture. I just have a few questions.
1. I am assuming you will have 4 of these just like the real 'Wack. If so, are they being driven by one motor and a gearing system, or is each RAD being driven by its own motor?
2. Are you using AC single direction motors, so thrust is reversed by rotating the RAD unit, or are you using DC motors that can be reversed by reversing the applied voltage?
3. The 90 degree angle you have the shaft geared for, is that going to be lubricated, or is it going to by "dry"?
4. Are you planning on machining this yourself, or are you going to have it done at a professional shop?
The only thing I would change on it, is I would use an electric actuator and a gear ring to turn the RAD instead of the winch system you are planning, just because a steel cable has a certain amount of slip possible. A gear ring would be able to withstand an impact better.
It looks like you used Inventor to create that drawing. If so and if you feel comfortable with it, can you send me the .ipt part file? I'd like to take a look at it in 3D and play around with it a little.
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Post by Quatchi on Nov 11, 2007 23:25:05 GMT -8
Coxnnick
Thanks for responding.
1) yes there will be four units just like the real ship. 2) I am using 12 v dc moters with reversing regenerative controllers. I will have the two controls on for each end but the two Legs at each end will not be independent just like the real ship. 3) I am going to use transmission fluid in the lower drive leg for lubrication. 4) At first I was thinking of designing it differently and having it machined professionally, I got a quote and the guy said about 200$ each. I decided to buy some brass off of him for 50$ and machine it myself. My dad is a Industrial Education teacher so he is going to teach me how to use the lathe and fabricate the parts. I'm gonna buy the gears and props but everything else will be homemade.
Also with the steel cables I thought about slippage too, but I am going to wrap it around a spool enough times so that it can be permanently attached in the center. This will be fine as i will only have 180 degrees of rotation. In RC you are limited to a linear motion that is translated into rotational so then I am going to use some springs in-line with the servo so that if I hit something it will have some play and not destroy the props or leg.
Sure I will send you the .iam file. Although I haven't completed the leg in the computer yet as allot of it is still in my head. Remember though I am self taught so don't expect it to be perfect. I am also going to post some overall mechanical drawings on my site soon.
Thanks, Cheers,
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Post by Nick on Nov 11, 2007 23:36:02 GMT -8
Thanks, I kinda thought that professional machining would get expensive. It sounds like you have the spool thing figured out, I like your idea with the springs.
After posting earlier, I looked at your website and profile on RC Universe and saw that the motors were DC.
And yes, my mistake, an assembly drawing is .iam, not .ipt. And of course, as I am typing this your email came in. Thanks!
Keep us updated!
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Post by Nucksrule on Nov 12, 2007 9:31:55 GMT -8
Just checked out the site, it's looking great. Keep up the good work Cadmunkey!
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Post by Quatchi on Nov 15, 2007 22:32:05 GMT -8
HI
Is it possible for someone to verify for me that the QoCHWK. Is actually running on the Saltery Bay-Earls Cove route. I read in another thread that she was starting this saturday. I was wondering if a local or anyone who takes a gander around there could tell me if they actually see her there. If so I am gonna go next weekend with a buddy.
Cheers,
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Post by Nick on Nov 15, 2007 23:03:49 GMT -8
I can't tell you whether she is actually there, but I can show you the service notice on the BCF website. MV Queen of Chilliwack Returns to Service Posted November 14, 2007 The regular winter vessel, the MV Queen of Chilliwack, returns to service beginning Saturday, November 17 on the 5:35 a.m. sailing leaving Saltery Bay to Earls Cove. For complete schedule information please visit www.bcferries.com or call 1-888-BCFERRY (1-888-223-3779). available at www.bcferries.com/schedules/notices/notice11140704.html
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Post by Mill Bay on Dec 23, 2007 21:57:21 GMT -8
Cadmunkey. I've been meaning to ask you what kind of support software you're using for the Queen of Chilliwack site, and who your server is.
If I'm supposed to be building a website or writing a book on the Sidney and Tsawwassen, I wanna try and find the most easy to use website application I can get my hands on. At this point at least, a website will probably be the starting point, because a book is going to take a lot more time and effort.
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Post by Quatchi on Dec 23, 2007 22:35:40 GMT -8
Well
My website is kind of unconventional. I managed to get my hands on a copy of windows server 2003 from a guy who works for Microsoft and am running it on an old computer in my basement. All of the pages and text are stored on the computer in my basement, but all the images are hosted by photobucket. So it uses my internet connection to get to the web. I then use Microsoft Frontpage from work to edit the site. So I cant really help you, because it would not be done this way for a "commercial" website.
Cheers,
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Post by D'Elete BC in NJ on Dec 27, 2007 12:19:35 GMT -8
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Post by Barnacle on Dec 29, 2007 8:56:18 GMT -8
Cadmunkey--how goes the model? I assumed at this point you're in the repairing-the-form stage to make up the other half of the hull...
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Post by Quatchi on Dec 29, 2007 15:45:48 GMT -8
Well, I have just been motoring away. Since I completed the mold its been smooth sailing. I have completed both haves and have glassed them together and have started doing final repairs and adding the keels. And best of all there were no repairs needed in the mold after the first part came out. I haven't worked on her for about 1.5 weeks now because of company and then I became extremely ill and spent a day in the hospital. So I haven't been up to dealing with anything requiring some major thought but hopefully within the next week ill get some new stuff on the page. It is interesting that if I stand it on its end it is taller than I am. I also had my moms friends 4 year old daughter siting in it in the hot-tub after I glassed the two pieces together.
Cheers,
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Post by Hardy on Dec 29, 2007 15:54:40 GMT -8
Ah, the first hull-float test is complete then. Can't believe you are carrying passengers already when your ship isn't even complete yet! Sorry to hear that you've been ill - being sick at the holidays really does suck! Get well soon and keep us posted as to your progress!
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Post by Quatchi on Dec 29, 2007 17:26:43 GMT -8
Yeah i'm doing better than FSG ;D just a couple of months, a sheet of 1/8" plywood, 40$ in assorted balsa and a couple hundred bucks worth of fiberglass materials and I have a floating hull carrying pax. Ha beat that FSG Warning/Attention Maximum Passenger age 5 or Maximum Passenger weight 30 kg Propulsion not included Cheers,
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Post by Mill Bay on Dec 29, 2007 17:34:22 GMT -8
Sounds like good progress Cadmunkey.
Hopefully I'll get to see it in action someday.
But your ship design beats out those little Brio ones I was trying to sell to Shipchandler. The weight limit for mine wouldn't even have been one toddler.
I guess that proves the seaworthiness of the model though, if the hull is solid enough not to spring any leaks and buoyant enough that it didn't capsize. You can definitely say it's child-proof now.
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Post by Hardy on Dec 29, 2007 18:24:47 GMT -8
What? The 4-year old had no ARMS??? I would call those "permanently-mounted manually operated variable pitch retractable propulsion" ... oars ... or hand-paddles! Just remember ... a hammer is really a portable manually operated variable speed fastener securement tool (and that was only so that the USAF could charge $42,000 each for them!)
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Post by Quatchi on Dec 29, 2007 22:44:38 GMT -8
I have a question about the Wack. I am going to paint her as she was right before Mr. Hahn came around. As in the lower picture on this page. www.geocities.com/ferries_bc/profiles/bcf_qchilliwack.htmlMy question is where was the Victoria on her? She must of had one somewhere, well two of them as she is double ended. There are very few pictures of her out there in this scheme or any scheme to be honest so I am having a little trouble. Cheers,
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Post by Nick on Dec 29, 2007 23:04:41 GMT -8
I don't think that the "Victoria", or port of registry, has to be on both ends. I think that it is only required on the No. 2 end.
Having said that, I have scoured Kevin Stapleton's photos, and any others I found using google, and I can't find a port name anywhere on her. I know that it is not under the name as it is currently, and it is not over the car deck doors as it is on many other ships. Other than that I can't seem to help you.
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 30, 2007 21:22:37 GMT -8
i90.photobucket.com/albums/k268/wetcoastkidjst/Chilliwack/2-QofChilliwackEarlsCoveSunshineCo.jpg?t=1199078632The Chilliwack has gone through at least three livery changes during its years with BCF's. When it first entered service in our waters it had a more or less standard Expo red white & blue scheme. That scheme was modified significantly when she be came the Discovery Coast ship round about the mid 1990's. Then in 2003 she began the transformation to the Campbell-Haun 'mating slugs' scheme. During the summer of 2003 only the funnel was repainted. The vessel remained in Expo/Discovery Coast livery in all other respects. She was, of course, not around in the original dogwood - pastel blue days of 1985 and earlier. The port of registry 'Victoria' was clearly marked on the ship when I photographed her in the summer of 1993 when she was doing the Jervis Inlet run. Ten years later in 2003 I photographed her at Port Hardy when she was wearing hybrid old and new schemes. At that time the name 'Victoria' is no where to be seen, at least on the one side. Anyways, you are welcome to look around on my photo site at the images I do have from 1993 and 2003, and also 2006. You may use them, and I can provide these in higher resolution if you need such. If my photos are used publicly, such as on your website, just ensure that they are properly credited. s90.photobucket.com/albums/k268/wetcoastkidjst/Chilliwack/
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Post by Quatchi on Dec 30, 2007 21:34:09 GMT -8
Thanks
I have already downloaded all your pictures and they have been added to my collection that makes up my screen saver on all my computers.
Man pretty sneaky little spot for it down there. I might just have to invent a spot for it on her.
Cheers,
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