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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 25, 2007 12:10:39 GMT -8
I haven't seen anything in the news-media re this yet. My friend, who is a retired northern-service employee, said that his friend who works on the QPR told him that the new Nor-Ad did some dock-damage, backing into one of the northern docks. He wasn't sure, but thought it was at Port Hardy (Bear Cove). He wasn't sure of the extent of damage to ship and to the new dock. Keep your eyes open for this news story to appear in a local paper, such as North Island Gazette or the Northern-Sentinal....these local papers can be accessed from www.bcnewsgroup.com/ |
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Post by Koastal Karl on Mar 25, 2007 12:16:10 GMT -8
I heard something about that too. I think it was Port Hardy. I think she was up there when Graham was up there so maybe Graham has more info on it.
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Post by Hardy on Mar 25, 2007 12:22:01 GMT -8
Well, this sure didn't take long! "New" ship, new docks, and already an incident. I suppose, though, that this is to be expected, as the only way to get familiar with all the new systems is to go out there "and drive around". Hopefully there was not too much damage to both ship and structures.
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Post by Curtis on Mar 25, 2007 16:39:06 GMT -8
Whoops!
Not good! This could delay the start of service up North. Though I guees it could be worse.
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Post by Coastal Canuck on Mar 25, 2007 16:39:53 GMT -8
That must be a mess  anyways what in the world is the Queen of Prince Rupert supposed to do when she arrives tonight  |
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Post by Ferryman on Mar 25, 2007 18:47:16 GMT -8
Graham showed me a small video of it last night. It was in fact at Bear Cove. The damage of it was very minor, and from what I could see, the starboard side of her stern had caught on to the side of one of the floating dolphins, and pulled a few of the boards on it off.
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Post by yvr on Mar 25, 2007 20:37:50 GMT -8
Perhaps there should be a set of bridge controls located at the stern to ease the docking procedure. Throw in a good west coast storm, with high winds, and chop and lets see the crew back that puppy up using TV cameras, and monitors. Not an easy task! (Just another Sonia deficiency) Perhaps Cascade, or Starbucks Queen can shed some light on how they do it in Europe.
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Post by Doug on Mar 25, 2007 22:18:44 GMT -8
Or they could just have cameras on the stern....
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Post by ProudCanuck on Mar 26, 2007 7:09:06 GMT -8
There are cameras on the stern. I noticed them while it was at Canada Place.
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 26, 2007 8:47:40 GMT -8
they just need practice, a ship that is wider, and has some new tech may take a little while to learn how to maneuver. give them time. regular captains are always damaging berths.
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Post by Barnacle on Mar 26, 2007 8:55:13 GMT -8
"Always"?
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Post by D'Elete BC in NJ on Mar 26, 2007 9:00:28 GMT -8
they just need practice, a ship that is wider, and has some new tech may take a little while to learn how to maneuver. give them time. regular captains are always damaging berths. LOL, so true! I remember one captain on the PR-Texada run who had acquired the nickname "Capt. Crunch" from us Islanders due to his inability to dock without smashing into something. As a foot passenger, you had to be prepared to grab on to something so you didn't leave your feet! Some incidents were relatively infamous for the scars they left on the dolphins and dock structure, and most people could tell you exactly when they had happened.  |
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Post by Neil on Mar 26, 2007 10:18:11 GMT -8
Well, cascade, when you've been docking vessels 'stern to' every day of every year since 1960, I don't think you need to be God to figure out how to do it.
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Post by Doug on Mar 27, 2007 22:04:59 GMT -8
There are cameras on the stern. I noticed them while it was at Canada Place. I don't know which camera you're talking about, but don't be confused by the camera over the vehicle deck. There is a camera on every vessel by every point of entry. As for docking stern first into the dock. It will take more practice to dock the Norad than it will with your conventional ferry. Look at the stern of this ship...it's the only ship in the fleet with those squared off edges and "protruding lips". |
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Post by Coastal Canuck on Mar 29, 2007 15:34:32 GMT -8
If the Northern Adventure really is starting service on Wednesday wouldn't we have had a service notice by now |
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Post by Curtis on Mar 29, 2007 16:55:24 GMT -8
I'm surprised they haven't decided to make one.
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Post by WettCoast on Mar 29, 2007 20:03:10 GMT -8
Tomorrow is the QPR's last scheduled sailing prior to refit. As of Sat., 31 March, The NorAd takes over. The QPR is scheduled to return by 16 May. I sure hope winter is over by that time! www.bcferries.com/schedules/inside/prph.html |
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Post by NMcKay on Apr 2, 2007 16:13:22 GMT -8
thank god that the QPR is finally getting a well deserved rest
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Post by Koastal Karl on Apr 2, 2007 18:31:37 GMT -8
Queen of Prince Rupert is now at Deas according to someone from the Yahoo board. I will have to get out there soon.,
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Post by Dane on Apr 2, 2007 21:32:28 GMT -8
Shes is.... I SEEN her with my own two eyes!  |
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Post by Ferryman on Apr 2, 2007 21:36:31 GMT -8
Yeah, I saw her there too, on my way home last night from Tsawwassen. Yesterday would have been the very first time I've seen her in person. It's funny as she's just as tall as the Burnaby.
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Post by Dane on Apr 2, 2007 21:53:09 GMT -8
What time were you at Tsa? I was there too!
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Post by Ferryman on Apr 3, 2007 6:11:13 GMT -8
I was at Tsawwassen around 6:30pm, offloading from the SoBC.
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Post by Alberni on Apr 3, 2007 11:34:21 GMT -8
I saw her docked at Deas when I was driving home yesterday around 7pm.
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Post by Retrovision on Apr 3, 2007 13:41:32 GMT -8
My weighing-in here is a little belated, although that happens to make me feel at-ease enough to relay what I witnessed on Wed. March 21 now that the NA is well underway, as the Northern Adventure pulled her unprecedented-in-BC-waters (for a ferry) extremely wide stern into berth for the very first time at Bear Cove, Port Hardy. Moments before
As she hit
The actual crash, which my dad reminds me - and I agree - should only be considered a 'crunch', was far louder than one would expect for the lack of damage, mainly because the sound of splitting wood is automatically going to be loud no matter the actual damage. In this clip you can hear the very last sound of the crunching that lasted for about 5 seconds before I started recording, but you can still just barely see the slow knife-through-butter-like slicing of the NA.
s171.photobucket.com/albums/u314/tsawwassenterminal/British%20Columbia%20Ferry%20Services/Northern%20Vessels/?action=view¤t=P1130504.flv
( You'll have to cut and paste the url)
In the end virtually no visible damage was done to the NA, almost comically a pole came out of the stern door to brush off the little bit of debris and they soon continued backing in to dock for the first time at the terminal.
And the damage to the floating dolphin was far greater, making the NA look invincible by comparison  |
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