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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Dec 15, 2006 10:40:48 GMT -8
Vessel 1: Northern Adventure (Sonia) Vessel 2: Northern Expedition (So called QPR replacement) Vessel 3: Northern Discovery (Chilliwack replacement) FMI, click here.
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Post by Dane on Dec 15, 2006 15:11:28 GMT -8
Ugh.
Remember when ferries had cool names?
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Dec 15, 2006 15:20:43 GMT -8
Yup, we all remember the good old days of the "of" and had the days of sufixes. Now, BCFS seems to like "carnival corporate" naming scheme where as we "DO NOT"! HEAR ME OUT DO NOT! YOU COULD HAVE NAMED IT "of the north" or "of the coast" BUT NO! "northern" LAME!!!!! even just "adventurer" alone would be better! That is why hahn you get the WAG OF THE FINGER FROM ME!
Ah, now I feel better.
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Post by Dane on Dec 15, 2006 15:24:41 GMT -8
... what these names do really show is BCFS making it clear they view these routes as tourist first, not transportation.
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Post by Northern Neglect on Dec 15, 2006 15:27:03 GMT -8
I predict that the Sonia new-name will be commonly mis-spoken as "Northern Adventurer" by the general public.
(this was FlugelHorn posting under-cover)
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Dec 15, 2006 15:53:53 GMT -8
Well, here we go again. Sad names. Imagine the day when the prefix "Queen" is just a memory. Our fleet is turning into a tourist attraction, not public transportation! So much for "Spirit of Hartley Bay'!
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Dec 15, 2006 16:13:52 GMT -8
Sean, here is a saying "never accept failure". I am not accepting failure on this one, this just adds to the issue of "problems of privitization."
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Dec 15, 2006 16:36:32 GMT -8
ya, i guess your right. But I love ship's names with royal prefixes
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Dec 15, 2006 17:33:53 GMT -8
With "queen of" I give an exception to, old fashion names are great. If BCFS needs a new trend GO TO RCCL!
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 15, 2006 17:36:42 GMT -8
Northern Vessel Names are...
as expected,
nauseating.
What do you expect from Mating Slugs, inc.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 15, 2006 19:06:33 GMT -8
from: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_ExpeditionThe Northern Expedition (Chinese: ±±·¥; pinyin: b¨§i f¨¢) was a military campaign led by the Kuomintang (KMT) and the Communist Party of China (CPC) from 1926 to 1927. Its main objective was to speed up the Chinese revolution against feudalism and imperialism plaguing China after the Xinhai Revolution and unify China under the Nationalist banner by ending the rule of local warlords. The term ¡°Northern Expedition¡± may also be understood to include a related campaign in 1928, which is otherwise called the Second Northern Expedition, during which the NRA captured Beijing (8 June 1928) and paved the way for the Chinese reunification (1928). Chaing Kai-Shek commanded the National Revolutionary Army during the Northern Expedition.
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Post by Doug on Dec 15, 2006 19:55:36 GMT -8
Great names!! Those are the best names BC Ferries has ever come up with!
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Post by Scott on Dec 15, 2006 20:39:21 GMT -8
Michael Smyth just had a half hour interview with the chief of Hartley Bay on CKNW. He's pretty upset (Michael Smyth is) that they didn't name it Spirit of Hartley Bay. I'm disappointed that it's not named that as well, but what disappoints me just as much is the awful name they're giving the Sonia. It's an awful name for a ship... it sounds like a tourist pamphlet, not a ship. Absolutely disgusts me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2006 22:36:34 GMT -8
The names have no personality. They have reduced the ship names to what they do and where they sail. They are NOT names but functions! Sad.
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Post by Neil on Dec 15, 2006 23:24:21 GMT -8
Well, I kind of feel like Willie Pickton's lawyer here, but, I think the names are okay. Bland, but suitable. Nothing wrong with them sounding touristy. Once we get used to the boats, the names, to paraphrase Philosopher Dave, "will just be names".
Now, if I were a Newfoundlander when the 'Joseph and Clara Smallwood' was launched, well, then I'd be throwing a fit. Compared to naming a ferry after an incompetent shyster politician, we don't have too much to complain about.
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Post by jjr on Dec 16, 2006 7:36:55 GMT -8
Awful names - I'm embarrassed that I will have to ride on ferries to the Charlottes with such crappy names. Mind you, when you are on the Sonia holding at Edye Pass waiting to cross Hecate Strait in a winter gale, it just might be a Northern Adventure.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 16, 2006 10:47:05 GMT -8
I predict that the Sonia new-name will be commonly mis-spoken as "Northern Adventurer" by the general public. (this was FlugelHorn posting under-cover) CKNW has already screwed up the screwed-up name in a news story: www.cknw.com/news/news_local.cfm?cat=7428327912&rem=54389&red=80132723aPBIny&wids=242&gi=1&gm=news_local.cfmVANCOUVER/CKNW(AM980) - The chief of the Hartley Bay band is disheartened a new vessel will not memorialize the heroism of his community. Bob Hill says he got a call from the President of BC Ferries to let him know the vessel would not carry the community's name, "It certainly is a disappoinment and it would have been a nice gesture. And I think our expectations of Hartley Bay that it would have been named something like the Spirit of Hartley Bay."
When the Queen of the North ran aground last March, the community used their fishing boats to rescue 99 people.
B-C Ferries says naming the new vessel after Hartley Bay did not fit with their marketing strategy.
The new vessel servicing the area will apparently be called the Northern Adventurer.
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Post by Curtis on Dec 16, 2006 11:54:49 GMT -8
Hey it could have been worse, They Could have called them Coastal Something or Other.
Personally I think the "Northern" in the names has a good ring to it but the next part of the name is kind of odd. The name I'm going to like the most is Northern Discovery. However the names are suited in a way.
Northern Adventure, Our former MV Sonia, will probably be doing the Inside Passage and soon the Queen Charlottes, so isn't the trip to the Queen Charlottes always an Adventure?..If there's a storm.
Northern Expedition, The QPR's Replacement, will be doing the Inside Passage, so in other words she's the New Queen of the North and will have the yearly positioning cruise and such, But how bout the Inside Passage, 15 Freakin Hours That's pretty much and Expedition you know will end in 15 Hours.
And...Possibly my Favorite of the three...Names that is.
Northern Discovery, Which I'm guessing will look something to nothing like the Queen of Chilliwack, will be the Discovery Coast Vessel and if current trends continue will be down on the Jervis Inlet route for half the year, Probably has the Best Suited name of the bunch for her route, Hey! wouldn't you like it that they named a ship after the place it runs, this is the closest you're gonna get with new and improved Aquafresh...(ahem), BC Ferries.
...Oh Additional one!
MV Nimpkish, Is probably still going to be on the Discovery Coast Passage when it's only the Son-er Northern Adventure is doing dual routes with that gigantic rear end.
That concludes my Summary. Good Suffix "Northern", Bad End Name...except for Northern Discovery of course.
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Post by Barnacle on Dec 16, 2006 15:33:49 GMT -8
The names have no personality. They have reduced the ship names to what they do and where they sail. They are NOT names but functions! Sad. Completely unlike the M/V Sidney, M/V Tsawwassen, City of Victoria, City of Vancouver...
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Post by jcachristian on Dec 16, 2006 17:56:23 GMT -8
Note to Karl:
According to the Canadian Pilotage Page, The Sonia is scheduald to be at the Brotchie Pilot Station at 8am on December 18 if you are interested to see her arrive at Esquimalt.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2006 18:28:54 GMT -8
Sorry, I was actually referring to this post...
Re: New I-Class - Hull 167 - Keel Laid Reply #14 on Yesterday at 6:49pm
BC FERRIES ANNOUNCES NAME OF NEW INTERMEDIATE VESSEL - Introducing the Inlet Crosser–
But I guess I fell for the joke too!! ;D
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Post by Kam on Dec 17, 2006 21:38:30 GMT -8
I’m completely disgusted. And if I where a member of the community of Hartley Bay I thin I would be offended. The least BCF could do is pay the tiniest bit of honour to the QOTN and acknowledge the community that came to the rescue of the passengers that night. It’s an offensive slap in the face. I think I a petition to rename the second ship being built by Flensburger to something more respectful is in order.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Dec 17, 2006 22:00:25 GMT -8
kam, we are considered a minority. We will not be listened to unless people in the province will stand up and express our view on this. However "acceptance is failure" in this case and I commend you standing up for what you believe in.
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Post by Doug on Dec 17, 2006 22:11:14 GMT -8
I’m completely disgusted. And if I where a member of the community of Hartley Bay I thin I would be offended. The least BCF could do is pay the tiniest bit of honour to the QOTN and acknowledge the community that came to the rescue of the passengers that night. It’s an offensive slap in the face. I think I a petition to rename the second ship being built by Flensburger to something more respectful is in order. BC Ferries is doing much more effective improvements to the actual town than simply naming a ship after it. I don't think they crave attention, seeing as how the town is so remote. I don't think they ever asked for a ferry terminal.
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Post by Neil on Dec 18, 2006 10:51:17 GMT -8
Maybe someone better acquainted with maritime traditions than me could tell us if shipping companies ever name new boats to commemorate previous ones which sunk with loss of life, or name them to honour the rescue efforts. I really don't know.
I've changed my mind on this one. Perhaps crew and passengers don't need to be reminded of the tragedy every time they sail. BC Ferries might not be doing enough to thank the people of Hartley Bay, but naming a new ship isn't necessarily the best way to do that.
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