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Post by jcachristian on Jun 10, 2006 10:04:54 GMT -8
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jun 10, 2006 10:06:03 GMT -8
She can still fit in, let me note A VESSEL DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE A VISOR JUST TO GET INTO CERTAIN DOCKS the bow doors can be made to slide out and in.
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Post by jcachristian on Jun 10, 2006 10:08:31 GMT -8
So judging from the Picture of the stern, She appears to be wider than the Queen of The North and Prince Rupert.
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Post by Curtis on Jun 10, 2006 10:53:49 GMT -8
The Bow and Stern Could Be a real Problem on the routes nless they start running the Chilliwack Full time they're gonna have trouble. They could make a 2nd dock at Port Hardy and a wider one at Skidigate whatever happens they're gonna be hauling in the Millions
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jun 10, 2006 11:02:39 GMT -8
Remember apperances can be deceving.
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Post by Curtis on Jun 10, 2006 11:09:02 GMT -8
That is true any specific information on this Vessel anywhere?
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Post by Curtis on Jun 10, 2006 11:19:47 GMT -8
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jun 10, 2006 11:35:23 GMT -8
This new vessel is only less than a foot wider than the North so that should not be a problem and she is 5 meters shorther than the North. It is the best fit you can find.
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Post by Retrovision on Jun 10, 2006 14:27:44 GMT -8
They could make a 2nd dock at Port Hardy and a wider one at Skidigate whatever happens they're gonna be hauling in the Millions can you say " Force Majeure" ?  |
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Post by Scott on Jun 10, 2006 16:22:41 GMT -8
I'm assuming the two stern doors mean that the traffic goes in, circles around the bow, and comes out the other side? Akward for trucks, but if that's the case, then you don't really need the bow doors.
The article (and news) stated that the ferry was found in Europe, but this M/S Sonia is from the Caribbean. So is this vessel now in Europe, but previously in the Caribbean?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 10, 2006 17:59:15 GMT -8
John: I believe that Sonia was just leased to a Carribean company, on short-term for a summer-service (to connect the Trinidad to the Tobago)
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Jun 10, 2006 22:02:29 GMT -8
Yuck! I personally don't like it. It is a cruise ship, not a bc ferry (even though it holds cars) The northern route is supposed to be enjoyable, but not that luxurious.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jun 10, 2006 22:08:54 GMT -8
Sonia isent a cruise ship! It's a ferry/cruise type vessel! The Norwegian Star is a cruise ship.
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Jun 10, 2006 22:41:24 GMT -8
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Post by Retrovision on Jun 10, 2006 23:16:17 GMT -8
Thanks for that, Scott. I'm assuming the two stern doors mean that the traffic goes in, circles around the bow, and comes out the other side? Akward for trucks, but if that's the case, then you don't really need the bow doors. Personally, I wouldn't put it past them to cut/add a bow door (kind of like they did, albeit briefly, with the Princess of Vancouver for Comox-PR service, but with a visor/ramp) and use the same loop system, without using the stern for loading. Without such a system, I don't know what they can do to that stern, barring major modifications, in order to fit existing berths.  |
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Post by Starbucks Queen on Jun 11, 2006 1:27:37 GMT -8
Yuck! I personally don't like it. It is a cruise ship, not a bc ferry (even though it holds cars) The northern route is supposed to be enjoyable, but not that luxurious. ´ Not THAT luxurious ? Where is that one luxurious ? You need a good cabin to sleep in for the night, a place to eat, some places to hang out that the trip does not get boring. People might like it and return, which would be good for the ferry-company for sure. Yes, the ship has been chartered out to the government of Trinidad and Tobago after 6 days in service for Achieva shipping Ltd. Nassau "Såld till Achieva Shipping, Ltd, Nassau, Bahamas. 2006 01 22. Sista dagen i trafik, därefter avslutad charter till Government of Trinidad & Tobago" |
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 11, 2006 8:35:45 GMT -8
She has 2 compartments? Would Transport Canada allow that? Didn't the North have 2 compartments? So wouldn't they have to add a few more compartments to meet the latest requirements? It's nice that she's 2 years old though, lots of time left for her!
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Post by Curtis on Jun 11, 2006 8:43:07 GMT -8
The Sonia Sure does look bigger than it should be.
As for the Stern they should do something about it.
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Post by Neil on Jun 11, 2006 11:03:23 GMT -8
We still have no concrete information that this IS the ship, right?
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Post by Engineer on Jun 11, 2006 13:18:35 GMT -8
So, I guess we will probably be expecting to see this on our coast soon... ;D  hope you dont mind I put your art work up on the BC Ferries union web site for everyone to see Looks great Thanks |
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jun 11, 2006 13:27:23 GMT -8
Scott wont mind Engineer, for a price of $1500.
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Post by Dane on Jun 11, 2006 13:33:14 GMT -8
Both are those, I'd be under the impression are reasonably easy to solve -> That being said I obviously have no idea what the car deck area looks like so it could potentially be very difficult.
I am glad too see BC Ferries did find a replacement. Here's another question: two or three new Northern vessels, now?
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Jun 11, 2006 13:36:20 GMT -8
So, I guess we will probably be expecting to see this on our coast soon... ;D hope you dont mind I put your art work up on the BC Ferries union web site for everyone to see Looks great Thanks Certainly... |
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Post by tyty on Jun 11, 2006 14:53:49 GMT -8
I'm assuming the two stern doors mean that the traffic goes in, circles around the bow, and comes out the other side? Akward for trucks, but if that's the case, then you don't really need the bow doors. That's precisely how the Queen of the North was loaded up when its bow doors were welded shut... I'm not sure how they did the QPR because it doesn't have the same sort of divider down the middle of the vehicle deck like QON, but it must have been a similar arrangement. |
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Post by Scott on Jun 11, 2006 14:57:01 GMT -8
It's not an ideal ship, so I can't see them not building three new northern vessels, but who knows?
Also, remember that the Queen of the North and Queen of Prince Rupert operated without the use of their bow doors for a while. So it's possible. I guess it just depends which end of the ferry would be easiest to modify to accommodate the current berths. It doesn't sound like it's too wide. Just the back doors are not designed for a single ramp berth.
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