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Post by Ferryman on Jul 3, 2005 22:26:50 GMT -8
That would suck so much if it happened again right after she comes back. I'm gonna try and go to the Island on her right when she comes back...not to hope she crashes again, but I want to see what they did in the midlife! I know probably nothing new, but she has a larger passenger area than Cow and Coq so it would be interesting to see how they arranged it all. Plus I haven't been on Oak Bay since August last year!
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Post by Balfour on Jul 3, 2005 22:28:55 GMT -8
Actually, I was out at Horseshoe Bay today with my step-brother, and they're already re-building the dock at Sewell's Marina, they have the Pile Driver there and all that.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 3, 2005 22:30:44 GMT -8
Last time I was on the Oaky was like in October of 2004 I think it was. I was hoping to take a day trip to Horseshoe Bay this summer basically to get on the Surrey on route 2 and the Oaky but now that the Surrey is still on the Langdale run I will just wait till September or October I think, unless I decide to go earlier during the summer! I got so many ferry trips I want to do so it is gonna be busy this summer. I wanna do Galiano again, the Nanny, July 10th and September 25th in Vancouver, October 12st the postioning cruise, Surrey and Oaky trip!
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Post by Ian on Jul 3, 2005 22:31:09 GMT -8
The captain made a tough decision and if was for the better, if he hit the terminal which is like a rock compared to the marina people would have been jolted and injured and especially in that waiting room above the terminal.
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Post by Ferryman on Jul 3, 2005 22:32:36 GMT -8
I saw that on the news. I wonder why they're pile driving? Wouldn't that just do more damage to a ferry if that ever happens again? But I guess there would be a better chance of it stopping faster if it was going at the right speed I guess. I wonder if those dock spaces are going to fill up again too once it's all back together.
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Post by nolonger on Jul 4, 2005 8:22:09 GMT -8
The captain made a tough decision and if was for the better, if he hit the terminal which is like a rock compared to the marina people would have been jolted and injured and especially in that waiting room above the terminal. Exactly!
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Post by nolonger on Jul 4, 2005 8:36:03 GMT -8
I think that the Oaky had some problems. but that wouldn't explain why the captain failed to initiate mode 2. and why the engine would not go into reverse. He is not an offering an opinion here. He has stated that the Captain failed to initiate mode 2. How does he know this? Was he there? Mode 2 is selected usually as the vessel is between Lookout Point and Robertson Rock. When mode 2 is selected it is noted in the ship's log and the time recorded. Once the forward shaft is engaged, the ccp pitch is tested to ensure that it is operating properly. This is also recorded in the ships log and the time noted. Reverse pitch on the forward shaft is not selected until the vessel has rounded the point into the bay. Those are the facts. As to what happened after that. I'm going to wait for the findings of any and all investigations. I won't speculate.
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Post by Ian on Jul 4, 2005 13:32:20 GMT -8
Really, where did harbourlynx find out mode 2 was not initiated?
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Post by Curtis on Jul 4, 2005 14:01:40 GMT -8
In fact they said they initiate mode 2 when they turn the corner on the news
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Post by Curtis on Jul 4, 2005 14:03:39 GMT -8
Oh yeah when the Oaky went back to the drydock it would be like she never left from Mid-Life
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Post by BrianWilliams on Jul 5, 2005 2:26:15 GMT -8
Coming into HB on the Coq Saturday evening (2 July), I had a new experience: just off Whytecliff, the skipper cut power and we drifted for a minute or two; then he resumed forward propulsion until we were level with Tyee Point, still heading north, with plenty of sea room.
Then Coq's bow props briefly went into full reverse power. The bow wave was stupendous. It may not have been too noticeable on the passenger decks. I was in the dog pen on Deck 2, starboard bow, and green water sheeted by our port. Wow.
I guessed this might be a test of Coq's ability to slow quickly.
Anyone know -- is this a procedure that BCF is using to check correct operation, or was the skipper running his own drill?
Of course, we docked safely a few minutes later. I did have some time to observe the massive concrete and steel dolphins that protect the terminal as we slid safely into Berth 2 ... and thought of the catastrophic collision if a ferry hit them.
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Post by BrianWilliams on Jul 5, 2005 2:39:15 GMT -8
The steel pilings at Sewell's have always been there. They anchor the floats. The pilings folded like grass stalks when Oak Bay ran over them.
The reconstruction will only replace what was there, no more.
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Post by BrianWilliams on Jul 5, 2005 3:54:42 GMT -8
You have to be a BCer to be used to the size of our ferries.
I posted a couple of HB pics on a non-ferry forum yesterday. They were taken Saturday (2 July) morning from Sewell's coffee terrace. In the best one, Surrey was in her slip, and Capilano was pulling out as Coq approached.
In the foreground, reconstruction of the wrecked marina was starting.
Well! Comments from the mostly American midwestern audience: "Wow, that's a BIG ship in front, does that go to Alaska?"
"How do you fit all those liners in that little space? Is it busy as this all year, or just in summer?"
"This is your Vancouver cruise ship dock, right?"
Ha! The BIG ship in front doesn't go to Alaska, just Snug Cove.
Truly, we are so accustomed to the size, excellence and beauty of our BCF fleet, that we fail to see these ships as others do.
Wow. Add frequency of service, timekeeping and low fares. BC Ferries is just a dream for most folks from away.
Darn, I forgot the fact that all our routes sail through postcard scenery ... oh, that is too much.
A friend from southern Ontario called us on Friday morning. Breathlessly, she said "I saw a ten-storey ship on the news! It crashed into a little harbour near you guys. Are you all okay?"
Hm. Ten stories? Seven decks, but I suppose CNN was measuring from keel to masthead.
Most folks don't have a clue about we take for granted. Our great white fleet IS pretty impressive. Next time I ride the Cap to Bowen, I'll think of her as an ocean liner.
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Post by nolonger on Jul 5, 2005 6:49:30 GMT -8
Brian, As usual, your posts are well written and well said. As an employee, it's nice to hear possitive comments such as yours. Thanks.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 5, 2005 7:09:09 GMT -8
hey Brian could you show the pics please?
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Post by Balfour on Jul 5, 2005 7:27:48 GMT -8
I remember last summer when I was on my way back to Saltspring after spending a day in Sydney. I was talking with a family from Ontario, and they saw the SOVI coming in, and the father says to his son, "Oh looks son, there's a Cruise Ship," and I'm like, that's not a cruise ship, that's a ferry, and it's going to dock right over there in a few minutes, and the guy is like, "WHAT? that thing's huge!!!"
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Post by Quinsam on Jul 5, 2005 11:58:56 GMT -8
I realy hope nothing like this happens again to a popular ship.
ok, ships I have been on: Quinsam, Saanich, Vancuver, SOBC, SOVI, Cowichan. Ships I plan to go on soon: Mill bay, Skeena Queen, Mayne/Bowen Queen, Cumberland.
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Post by NMcKay on Jul 5, 2005 12:54:49 GMT -8
is that list from this past month or so?
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 5, 2005 14:35:03 GMT -8
btw I got a bad joke for Campbell his white hair and him trying to go on the ferry caused the crash! LOL!
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Post by Balfour on Jul 5, 2005 14:41:15 GMT -8
It's funny because my step-dad looks like Gordon Campbell.
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Post by Ferryman on Jul 5, 2005 15:08:16 GMT -8
It's funny because his wife is going to be my Principal in September. Not that it's a bad thing or anything, but I never thought she would be.
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Post by BrianWilliams on Jul 5, 2005 15:34:06 GMT -8
To notmuchlonger:
BCF workers, in my experience, are outstanding. From captains to cleaners, I have never met friendlier, more competent people in any field of public service.
Perhaps, 'cause we pay well, we attract and keep the best people. Maybe the BCF lifestyle, even with the long hours and snarly passengers, appeals to exceptional folks. I don't know.
It's always a pleasure to ride our boats. Ticketeers at busy terminals are always pleasant and helpful. Almost always, the clerk passes us a handful of dog biscuits with our change. Everyone else is equally nice.
Good people.
to Dan:
Yep, a HB pic in a minute, right after supper.
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Post by Balfour on Jul 5, 2005 15:38:52 GMT -8
To add to this, BCF employees have always been nice to my, I have never been dissapointed by any employees of BCF.
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Post by BrianWilliams on Jul 5, 2005 16:42:39 GMT -8
OK, I think I have these right. First photo is about 09:00, with Capilano leaving, and Surrey approaching the terminal. Kona Winds is backing out of her slip. The reconstruction zone is at centre.
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Post by Ian on Jul 5, 2005 16:44:56 GMT -8
My gosh how could someone think that the Oak Bay looks like a cruise ship, since when do cruise ships have double ends with car decks! The spirits, maybe but gosh put them next to Serenade of the Seas and then look.
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