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Post by Balfour on Jul 5, 2005 16:45:23 GMT -8
Nice Photo!
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Post by NMcKay on Jul 5, 2005 16:50:54 GMT -8
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Post by BrianWilliams on Jul 5, 2005 16:51:05 GMT -8
This is a few minutes earlier, with just the Cap ready to depart. This is the pic that prompted the USA question "Does that ship go to Alaska?" Capilano does look pretty impressive for an island-hopper.
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Post by Balfour on Jul 5, 2005 16:55:05 GMT -8
Yeah she does, and her 400 passenger capacity, and 85 cars is still not enough for the Bowen Run.
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Post by NMcKay on Jul 5, 2005 16:55:37 GMT -8
she looks too much like an open decked ship.....
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Post by NMcKay on Jul 5, 2005 16:56:42 GMT -8
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Post by BrianWilliams on Jul 5, 2005 16:57:24 GMT -8
The grand fleet. Surrey's in, Cap's back and Coquitlam approaches: As I said before, we take this scene for granted; but several Americans asked "Is this your cruise ship terminal?" ... etc. These are bloody great huge passenger ships in most folks' eyes.
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Post by Balfour on Jul 5, 2005 17:01:42 GMT -8
I can see a small resemblance with the Malaspina and the Matanuska, and a 3rd, the Taku.
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Post by BrianWilliams on Jul 5, 2005 17:02:09 GMT -8
"she looks too much like an open decked ship..... "
That's right, Harbourlynx, we see that. People who don't see coastal ferries often (if ever), look at Cap's impressive deckhouse and assume she's a BIG boat.
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Post by BrianWilliams on Jul 5, 2005 17:14:23 GMT -8
Speaking of sleek Harbourlynx, here she is about 4:30pm Saturday, passing Protection Island, outbound for Vancouver. It's in the wrong topic, I know. I'll re-post it in the right place shortly.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 5, 2005 17:18:38 GMT -8
That is the Esquimalt in that photo! Yes the Cap and Cumbie are impressive ships for the Gulf Islands! I wish they would build more of them!
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Post by BrianWilliams on Jul 5, 2005 17:19:11 GMT -8
Harbourlynx: While you're here, please clarify HL's current pet-handling policy. I'd like to try Harbourlynx soon, with our smallish (23-lb) dog. Here's Bo: Thanks! -- Brian
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Post by BrianWilliams on Jul 5, 2005 17:21:02 GMT -8
"That is the Esquimalt in that photo! "
Whoops, sure enough is.
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Post by Balfour on Jul 5, 2005 17:40:33 GMT -8
What kind of dog is Bo?
My two are Flat-Coated Retrievers
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Post by BrianWilliams on Jul 5, 2005 18:17:10 GMT -8
Bo (Beauregard, but nobody calls him that) is a Schipperke. Schips are Belgian farm dogs, originally, bred small for economy. Schipperkes are rat-catchers, watchdogs and very good boat dogs. They swim like otters (though not as well as your FC Retrievers!), are tireless and weatherproof. We have two: the other is Virginia--
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Post by NMcKay on Jul 5, 2005 19:37:00 GMT -8
Call the harbourlynx office that you'll be departing from probably 2 days in advanced, and just ask them to keep the pet carriers on hold. if you have any problems, tell them to call Bill Mckay, and Ill deal with it. i think there is a small fee, but thats all. There is a problem when it comes to the Vancouver terminal. if you have your own pet carrier...all the better, because they are required to stay like that as long as they are on Translink Property.
If your gonna go friday. I might join you. i think im going over to visit my dad,
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Post by Ferryman on Jul 5, 2005 19:44:35 GMT -8
Those are really cool looking dogs you have Brian! They look really sleek and fast! They look like they could run after a ball after it was thrown really far and they would get there fast enough to catch it before the ball would even get a chance to hit the ground!
I hate to change the subject here, but here is the latest on the Queen of Oak Bay! Here is what Tyler said on the Yahoo forum:
VICTORIA – The Queen of Oak Bay is scheduled to leave Vancouver Dry Dock early in the morning on Wednesday and undergo extensive sea trials. Repairs to the vessel required as a result of last Thursday's grounding incident at Horseshoe Bay are now complete.
Representatives from Transport Canada, Transportation Safety Board, Lloyd's Register of Shipping as well as BC Ferries' engineers will put the Queen of Oak Bay through rigorous technical sea trials. Shipyard representatives and equipment manufacturers will also be on board. The investigators will simulate the suspected cause of the power failure in order to replicate the cause of the incident.
The duration of the sea trials is dependent on the vessel meeting the approval of the investigators. Once Transport Canada is satisfied that the vessel has passed all inspections, BC Ferries will continue with quality assurance trials.
After the sea trials are concluded, BC Ferries will release its findings into what caused the June 30 Queen of Oak Bay grounding. The Queen of Oak Bay will return to service on the Horseshoe Bay – Departure Bay route only after Transport Canada and BC Ferries are satisfied with the results of the sea trials and Transport Canada has issued the vessel's operating certificate.
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Post by BrianWilliams on Jul 5, 2005 21:45:08 GMT -8
To HL Teen:
Thanks for the tips. Next trip will probably be in mid-July, to re-visit Newcastle Island. HL is definitely the best way to go, because HL's Nanaimo dock is a short walk to the Newcastle ferry, not 5 km as from Departure Bay.
Your information is valuable, and will be helpful. Thanks!
To Chris:
Aww, thanks for the compliments. Our Schipperkes are pretty fast, tireless and ... they usually wear me out.
Thanks, too for the Oak Bay update. That is interesting. It's marvellous, I think, that the damage to the vessel was so slight.
On the day, we were all worried about possible deaths. Relieved of that fear, we could go on to consider the costs of property damage.
That a vessel of Oak Bay's size could be maneuvered so skillfully, with only seconds to choose a course is astounding. Oak Bay's skipper deserves the highest commendation.
He fulfilled all his responsibilities.
Number One: Preserve the lives of your passengers and shipmates.
Number Two: Do not endanger people outside the ship.
Number Three: Save your ship.
He accomplished all of these. Fine seamanship!
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Post by Doug on Jul 5, 2005 22:08:08 GMT -8
Dogs? They kind of remind me of wolves.
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Post by Mac Write on Jul 5, 2005 22:36:05 GMT -8
Good news is at Swartz Bay 0 this is impossible to happen as any ferry going into birth #1 will just continue onward. Same with Long Harbour it will just hit the mud or what ever in the middle of the harbour. As for Fullford - low tide will gorund the SKeena and high tide...lets not think about that (or lets).
A group of us lets all go to HSB and have lunch and take some photos or better yet do a round trip on the ferry and take photos (I don't drive). Would be fun and allow us all to meet in person.
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Post by nolonger on Jul 5, 2005 23:05:48 GMT -8
To Brian and to Strong Skier, Thanks for the vote of confidence. That was nice to hear especially after the shift I and my fellow deckhands had tonight.
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Post by nolonger on Jul 5, 2005 23:53:20 GMT -8
Coming into HB on the Coq Saturday evening (2 July), I had a new experience: just off Whytecliff, the skipper cut power and we drifted for a minute or two; then he resumed forward propulsion until we were level with Tyee Point, still heading north, with plenty of sea room. Then Coq's bow props briefly went into full reverse power. The bow wave was stupendous. It may not have been too noticeable on the passenger decks. I was in the dog pen on Deck 2, starboard bow, and green water sheeted by our port. Wow. I guessed this might be a test of Coq's ability to slow quickly. Anyone know -- is this a procedure that BCF is using to check correct operation, or was the skipper running his own drill? Of course, we docked safely a few minutes later. I did have some time to observe the massive concrete and steel dolphins that protect the terminal as we slid safely into Berth 2 ... and thought of the catastrophic collision if a ferry hit them. Brian, You would have been travelling with the same crew who were unfortunate enough to have been working the day of the incident. Some key personnel may not as yet be back to work however. To my knowledge there have been no direct procedural changes implemented as yet as a result of the Oak Bay incident. The C class vessel I work on has been conducting slower than usual landings. This may be my skipper's own drill, I haven't had a chance to ask him. What you described does not sound at all out of the ordinary to me. (working on deck on C class vessels since 1976 ) The noise, wash, and cavitation caused by the forward shaft engaging, and the pitch being tested down on the main cardeck is sometimes unnerving to the uninitiated. Some people have at times looked down right scared. As far as any changes made to the way we do things, I will post them here as I learn of them. Keep in mind, 5 C class vessels, 3 in operation since 1976, 2 since 1981, ALL running year round, minus refits, repairs etc., nothing like this has ever happened before.
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Post by Ferryman on Jul 6, 2005 5:39:04 GMT -8
Yeah, regardless of the incedent last week, I think the C-Class are still very reliable and they've done a really good job all of their lives so far. Sure they've had their accidents, whether or not they were too serious I don't know. Once the V-Class are gone and same with some of the Old Minors, the public will be bugging BC Ferries to get rid of them because they're "old"....weird thought without so many original BC Ferries not part of the fleet.
Well another update on the Oak Bay. It is 8:18am and the tugs are pulling Oak Bay out of the Drydock for sea trials today. Global BCTV is sort of covering it by having a reporter at Ambleside Beach in North Van to watch her go under the Lions Gate Bridge. So if you're up this early keep your eyes on whatever Channel BCTV is on in your area, if you're interested that is. I'm sure it will definitely will be on again at noon and tonight, and probably even tomorrow morning. So you won't miss it.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 6, 2005 6:52:38 GMT -8
What C class do you think has had the least accidents??? The Coquitlam? I havent heard much about her, I heard about the Cowichan and Surrey and Oaky from the news clips on some of the accidents!
Also yes the captain of the Oaky did an excellent job of making sure his crew and passengers were all right and of course his lovely ship, the Oaky!!! It's too bad for the owners who had boats and the marina though!
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Post by Ferryman on Jul 6, 2005 6:59:03 GMT -8
I think the Coquitlam had the least amount of accidents too. Although I think she has lost power once and smashed into the Dock at Horseshoe Bay, but the news said it was the Cowichan when clearly the name on the ferry was the Coq...at least I thought it was anyway, I'll have to watch it again and see.
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