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Post by Ferryman on Jun 18, 2005 8:44:49 GMT -8
Does anyone ACTUALLY know what is going to happen with the Surrey and Coquitlam? If you look at the RBI for Langdale it shows the Surrey doing all of the sailings, but then if you look at route 2 it shows the Surrey doing extra sailings as of June 30th. Yes it shows the Surrey doing all of the sailings on the Langdale run that day too. I don't really care what happens with the two ferries. I would be nice to see the Surrey at least once on the interior before she goes for midlife this winter. But then if Coquitlam is just going to be the #2 out of Departure Bay, then there's all 3 of the vessels with midlifes on that run that are all basically exactly the same.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jun 18, 2005 8:52:18 GMT -8
Surrey is suppose to go to Departure Bay as the #2 boat and the Coquitlam to Langdale. I am hoping that is what is going to happen cause I am planning on taking a trip on the Surrey this summer. One last time before mid life! Whether to Horseshoe Bay or if I have to go to Langdale too to get on her I will. That is the last I heard. Although someone else said the Langdale crew was bitching about getting the Coquitlam so I dont know what that mean. But I think they should have all the refitted ones in full service and have the Surrey as the extra! So hopefully that is what they will do.
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 22, 2005 11:46:08 GMT -8
If anyone didn't notice yet, route 2's schedule has changed, it is weird. But at least they're gonna have the Coquitlam do a 10:50pm sailing from Horseshoe Bay on Sundays. I think route 3's schedule has changed too, and maybe the Bowen Island, bit I'm not sure. but check out this new schedule in case you're planing to go that route after June 28th: www.bcferries.com/schedules/notices/notice06220507.html |
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jun 22, 2005 11:49:18 GMT -8
I think that is going to be the Esquimalt doing those departures.
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 22, 2005 12:34:48 GMT -8
No, the Equimalt is going to be doing extra sailings out of Langdale and will be based out of there for the summer, then back to her usual once and a while sailings on route 2 when the Surrey goes for midlife.
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Post by Dane on Jun 22, 2005 15:22:28 GMT -8
- Surrey is staying where she is
- Esquismalt is going to Langdale
- Coquitlam or Cowichan will be the #2 for Route 2
- Oak Bay is the #1 out of HSB
- Langdale, and Nanaimo both have adjusted schedules. Bowen is status quo
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Post by Balfour on Jun 22, 2005 16:01:50 GMT -8
The Esquimalt has done extras on both routes 2 and 3 before.
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Post by Dane on Jun 22, 2005 16:43:02 GMT -8
But not this summer...
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Post by Balfour on Jun 22, 2005 18:36:53 GMT -8
I don't think that would happen unless a C class breaks down, like the Surrey did in Summer 2003. They had the Oaky do route 3, and the Esquimalt run routes 2 and 3 on an adjusted schedule.
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 22, 2005 18:43:23 GMT -8
Then when Surrey got going again, they had her on route 2 and 3 for a few days too. I remember being on the Coquitlam and seeing the Surrey leave Departure Bay bound for Horseshoe Bay and then to Langdale, then back the other way. But I can't remember if the Esquimalt was going too.
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Post by CN2972South on Jun 22, 2005 20:49:05 GMT -8
What I don't understand, during peak periods when needed, why not run the Queens of Cowichan, Coquitlam, Esquimalt and Oak Bay between Nanaimo and Vancouver(Horseshoe Bay)? That way they could provide almost-hourly service and eliminate the long waits.
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 22, 2005 21:06:45 GMT -8
Yeah that's what I think they should do too, but route 3 really needs the Esquimalt too around the same times route 2 overloads. Plus it would be hard to have the 4th ferry based out of Horseshoe Bay if not needed because it limits Horseshoe Bay to 2 berths. I don't know, as time goes on, it seems like it was a bad idea to have a ferry terminal there because it can't expand another berth or two to support the overloads. I understand that it was a good idea at the time in the 50's or so because traffic wasn't as high as nowdays. But I really think the Nanaimo ferries should go somewhere else in Vancouver....but where? The only cleared land around the North Vancouver that might work is almost just below the Lions Gate Bridge, but there is a huge railway yard along there so there would need to be a huge bridge over that. I know for a fact that would never happen obviously.
I know this is way off topic from summer time schedules but, there is a plan to make Porteau cove a community like Lions Bay there. Maybe one day a ferry will utilize the dock there again....
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 23, 2005 9:05:01 GMT -8
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jun 23, 2005 10:08:19 GMT -8
I will tell you what is stupid they run it certain days of the week and they don't run the crossings daily when they need them because if you are on regular schedule most of the week no extra sailings I will bet there will be sail waits, more than usual but I also think they can use the Esquimalt while she is not in service on Langdale on Tsawwassen-Duke Point, they should have made six C's or done 1 year rebuilds and make them as big as the Spirits, (Dimensions like length and width not height though unless to add second passenger deck)
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Post by hergfest on Jun 23, 2005 11:49:19 GMT -8
They can't run four boats on the HB-DB because of only three berths at HB. They have six boats going out of HB with three berths, that is why they adjusted the schedule. So the Esquimalt has to be based out of Langdale, which means they can't use it on HB-DB.
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Post by NMcKay on Jun 23, 2005 21:37:16 GMT -8
they can run 4 boats out of HSB, they can run more if they wanted to....when the klitsa was at albion and both boats were OOC, they had to tie one boat to the other so that they could have both berths free, is the terminals at Canada Place and The quay were originally designed for 18 Vessels, then HSB can certainly handle more than 4, as far as i know. only one vessel is actually stationed @ HSB everynight, and thats the HSB -> DEPB Vessel.
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Post by CN2972South on Jun 24, 2005 7:10:14 GMT -8
Don't they have 7 ships running into and out of Tsawwassen with only three available berths? They could, if they adjusted the schedules accordingly run 4 ships on the Departure Bay run.
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 24, 2005 7:10:24 GMT -8
The Cappie sits at Horseshoe Bay overnight too because the crew lives in Vancouver.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jun 24, 2005 9:55:37 GMT -8
they should have a crew from Bowen Island instead
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 24, 2005 10:02:50 GMT -8
Don't they have 7 ships running into and out of Tsawwassen with only three available berths? They could, if they adjusted the schedules accordingly run 4 ships on the Departure Bay run. True, and even most of the time they had 5 (SOBC, SOVI, Albi,Newwest, and Nanny) with only 2 berths because the Vancouver was parked in one of the 3 that were available. Hey, do they even have berth 1 and 2 open yet at Tsawwassen now? I heard somewhere there was delays for the Nanny as they needed her to do a test fit in the rebuilt berths a little while ago. |
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Post by NMcKay on Jun 24, 2005 10:16:10 GMT -8
Ive been down to HSB @ night, and only seen the Cow or the coq sitting there, all lit up in splendor, but maybe the cappie was there, because she might have been hidden by the C class.
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Post by Dane on Jun 24, 2005 10:51:54 GMT -8
Having the Cap at Bowen woiuld require about 40 employees, and that would be like 5% of the population  LOL |
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Post by nolonger on Jun 24, 2005 20:06:07 GMT -8
You people keep on with the " they should do this" and "they should do that" and "this is stupid". You never take into consideration the logistics and costs involved. EG. " they should have a crew from Bowen island instead" How? Just go hire 3 crews living there? There wouldn't be 3 people qualified, let alone be union members, or have the expertise to do the job without any training by who? BCF employees that's who? Come on. Think a bit. Back in the '80s they used to tie the boat up in Snug cove which at the time was the Howe Sound Queen and take the crew back and forth by water taxi from Horseshoe Bay. Great idea, except that it involved about an hours overtime each way each day. Plus the cost to charter this water taxi, not to mention the risk involved of transporting the crew across Howe Sound in winter months in darkness and with sometimes ferocious Squamish Winds kicking up. Also while the Esquimalt is based in langdale, most if not all of her crew will not be cleared to sail on rte 2. So instead of saying this is stupid and they should do this and that, try to figure out why things are as they are.
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Post by kylefossett on Jun 24, 2005 22:17:20 GMT -8
You people keep on with the " they should do this" and "they should do that" and "this is stupid". You never take into consideration the logistics and costs involved. EG. " they should have a crew from Bowen island instead" How? Just go hire 3 crews living there? There wouldn't be 3 people qualified, let alone be union members, or have the expertise to do the job without any training by who? BCF employees that's who? Come on. Think a bit. Back in the '80s they used to tie the boat up in Snug cove which at the time was the Howe Sound Queen and take the crew back and forth by water taxi from Horseshoe Bay. Great idea, except that it involved about an hours overtime each way each day. Plus the cost to charter this water taxi, not to mention the risk involved of transporting the crew across Howe Sound in winter months in darkness and with sometimes ferocious Squamish Winds kicking up. Also while the Esquimalt is based in langdale, most if not all of her crew will not be cleared to sail on rte 2. So instead of saying this is stupid and they should do this and that, try to figure out why things are as they are. notmuchlonger, you have the same smarts that i get from my union connection. i have never had a snoopy the dog about your comments. i am the first guy to agree with what youm say. kyle connected to the union and mangement |
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 25, 2005 7:55:05 GMT -8
....Well today looks like it's gonna be a day full of sailing waits, just by looking at Tsawwassen-Swartz Bay. I know it always has a sail wait but they need to bust out the Vancouver today, they just got the Saanich, SOVI, and SOBC doing the run and it's almost a 2 sail wait already.
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LOL