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Post by CN2972South on Mar 30, 2005 20:57:30 GMT -8
Some thoughts on the names for the new Centuries
"Queen of Sooke"
"Bamfield Queen"
"Jordan River Queen"
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Post by Balfour on Mar 30, 2005 21:35:14 GMT -8
"Clayoquet" would be a good for a minor vessel.
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Post by cascade on Mar 31, 2005 7:05:54 GMT -8
Has anybody asked BCFS on how they will come up with names for the 3 new vessels?
Does anyone on this board have newspaper contacts - so as to get them to propose a way in which the general public - might - just might have a say in nameing the new vessels?
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Mar 31, 2005 19:13:52 GMT -8
They won't come up with a name till they lay the keel. Its tradition. Like with Freedom of the Seas.
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Post by Balfour on Mar 31, 2005 19:19:16 GMT -8
It must be nearing the time to lay the keel for the super C's, if they're due in BC at the end of 2007.
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Post by cascade on Apr 1, 2005 9:05:11 GMT -8
Before any of the work starts - there is a "Project Name" and then while the work is under way - is when the real naming should start.
I think this is a great opportunity for BCFS to start wining back part of the high ground in the PR war's - God knows what will happen when they start arriving on the coast. The unions will be full on attack - and just remember the easies thing in the world is finding fault - making it right is the hardest.
Should buy shares in print companies now - as there will be one hell of a lot of it used in 2007.
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Post by Dane on Apr 3, 2005 16:17:56 GMT -8
I've wondered what will happen when the vessles arrive, knowing the union I could imagine them refusing to operate the vessels for a few days, then publising every possible fault they can find.
I don't think the keel goes down until Jan 2006? I don't know where I read that or if it's even true? Maybe it's from one of those videos some one posted.
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Post by nolonger on Apr 3, 2005 21:04:53 GMT -8
Don't think this is the forum for union bashing. It's union members that sail these ships both licenced and non-licenced. They do it with the equipment handed to them in a safe and efficient manner. Issues of safety and inadequate equipment are often left to crew members to report or deal with in what ever means are available. They don't complain for the sake of complaining. If you are a traveller aboard these ships, be grateful that someone is looking out for you.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 3, 2005 21:13:30 GMT -8
Hey, I'm grateful.
CUPW wages paid for my food & clothing, when I was a kid.
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Post by nolonger on Apr 3, 2005 21:20:47 GMT -8
Vaughn Palmer a columnist for the Vancouver Sun and Noted union basher during the last dispute was raised on a BCFMWU paycheck.
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Post by Dane on Apr 3, 2005 22:35:26 GMT -8
That wasn't a union bash.... that's not at all a very unrealistic guess of what will happen. I support unions, and am a card carrying member of the Provincial NDP.
That being said, do you think the union will put a big happy face on when they arrive? Um, no. and they do regualrly call out BCF for poor equipment, which generally are very legitimate complaints. I believe they'll do that to an even more severe level with the SuperCs as a political move.
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Post by cascade on Apr 4, 2005 8:16:47 GMT -8
So Dane - what's your views - as to when they will start coming up with names for the new build and when will they and how will they do it?
Forgeting all the Politics and Union issues ect...(Which bore me) will the people of BC have a say in naming the vessels?
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Post by kylefossett on Apr 5, 2005 14:35:48 GMT -8
how about a couple of them to include terry fox and rick hansen. these are 2 canadian heros from this province
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Post by Doug on Apr 7, 2005 19:06:17 GMT -8
I think we should stick with the traditional naming....
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Post by Balfour on Apr 7, 2005 20:43:18 GMT -8
yeah, I like the old Queen of....insert BC location here...
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Post by cascade on Apr 8, 2005 7:02:55 GMT -8
Dane - you said - "That being said, do you think the union will put a big happy face on when they arrive? Um, no. and they do regualrly call out BCF for poor equipment, which generally are very legitimate complaints. I believe they'll do that to an even more severe level with the SuperCs as a political move."
Isn't it the job of the crew to keep the vessel in a safe and sea worthy state. If they require a replacement part - then why not install it - or are you saying that the Union crew don't do any work on board and the vessel get's run down? As for the comment about equipment - then again it is either from the Shipyard or Deals - and if they can't provide correct spec equipment for the job - then how do you expect them to be able to handle a major job like - say - building a ferry?
Not following your chain of though here on this subject.
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Post by lest69 on Apr 8, 2005 16:00:04 GMT -8
I was just going through a list of BC communities and came up with some possibilities. These could be Queen of ..., or ... Queen, or whatever.
Port Hardy
Campbell River
Comox
Courtenay
Parksville
Delta
Richmond
I think they should bring back some old names. Victoria is the capital of the province, and is also the home of the BCF headquarters. Not having a ship named after Victoria seems kind of strange. It may not have to be the Queen of Victoria, it could be something different like Empress of Victoria. Since these are major vessels, they should probably be named after major cities, etc. I noticed lots of smaller communities that would make great names for smaller ferries (ie. Galiano, Gabriola, Saturna). I just thought of some more: What about straights? Hecate, Georgia,...
There's just so many possibilities! I hope they let the public submit names and then vote on them. This way we could get tons of names and would probably get some very good ones.
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Post by Balfour on Apr 8, 2005 18:10:33 GMT -8
I've said this before. There are lots of coastal names left in BC that could be put onto ferries.
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Post by BrianWilliams on Apr 10, 2005 2:11:48 GMT -8
A recap of my earlier opinion:
Geographical names are limiting: where are the Powell River Q, Bowen Q and others like them today?
Serving routes unrelated to their names.
An earlier tradition at BCF is even worse: naming ships for siginificant cities. Q of Nanaimo, Cowichan, Victoria, Esquimalt .. maybe, but Burnaby? Surrey? Chilliwack? New Westminster? (where I live).
BS. These are not seaports, much less ferry terminals. They are political names, handed to MLAs for photo ops.
I repeat my suggestion for new ferry names: In the proud tradition of seafaring on our coast, let's use the names of ships that made our history.
Discovery, Resolution, Chatham, Mexicana, Sutil, Sea Otter, Forward, Beaver, Queen Charlotte -- and Plumper, too.
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Post by Doug on Apr 10, 2005 18:47:09 GMT -8
What's so bad about naming a ship after a city not on the ocean? If they're close it's good enough I'd say. And Surrey and Burnaby are on the ocean...Semiahmoo Bay and Burrard Inlet.
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Post by nolonger on Apr 10, 2005 18:49:53 GMT -8
A recap of my earlier opinion: Geographical names are limiting: where are the Powell River Q, Bowen Q and others like them today? Serving routes unrelated to their names. An earlier tradition at BCF is even worse: naming ships for siginificant cities. Q of Nanaimo, Cowichan, Victoria, Esquimalt .. maybe, but Burnaby? Surrey? Chilliwack? New Westminster? (where I live). BS. These are not seaports, much less ferry terminals. They are political names, handed to MLAs for photo ops. I repeat my suggestion for new ferry names: In the proud tradition of seafaring on our coast, let's use the names of ships that made our history. Discovery, Resolution, Chatham, Mexicana, Sutil, Sea Otter, Forward, Beaver, Queen Charlotte -- and Plumper, too. Very nice Brian. |
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Post by cascade on Apr 12, 2005 9:48:58 GMT -8
Brian - I realy do like your comments - very simple - but makes a lot of sense.
I asked here about using the name "Queen" in front of a name - while in Lloyds - it seems there might be a problem with the "word" in front - while Canada is still part of the union.
Remember back in 1967 - when we got the Maple Leaf flag - things changed. Some of the vessel had there name before the change with the flag and our passports - from British Commonwealth to Canadian
I realy do like the names been put forward by Brian - let's bring back some local history to the Coast.
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Post by Raymond on Apr 23, 2005 14:59:05 GMT -8
Here are a few name I would like to see on the nineteen new ships that BC Ferries will be ordering over the next fithteen years or so. Super C Class ships. Queen of Victoria II. Queen of Richmond. Queen of Vancouver II. Northen Ships. Spirit of the North. Spirit of the West. Spirit of Haida Gwaii. 125 car vessels for Bowen Island and Fulford Harbour routes. Fraser Queen. Seymour Queen. 225 car vessels to replace the Nanaimo, the Burnaby and Tsawwassen. Queen of Sindey II. Queen of White Rock. Queen of the Comox Valley. 75 car vessels for open water routes. Van Anda Queen. Alert Bay Queen. 75 car vessels for protected water routes. Cofton Queen. Denman Queen. Thetis Queen. Brentwood Queen. 50 car vessel for a open water route. Whaletown Queen. 50 car vessel for a protected water route. Hornby Queen. Also if they do plan to replace the New Westminster with another Super C Class, it should named Queen of Nanaimo II. I hope you enjoyed my suggestions. Please post any suggestions you may have here. Ray.  |
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Post by Balfour on Apr 23, 2005 15:49:52 GMT -8
Those sound like good names, but Spirit of the West is the name of a rock band, but it too is a great name.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Apr 23, 2005 16:27:04 GMT -8
Comox Valley Queen, Queen of the Comox Valley is too long. That's what I think. All the rest are good choices!
I think Comox Valley Queen sounds better too.
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