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Post by Ryan on Jul 18, 2003 11:30:56 GMT -8
This is a great site John, very impressive!
The queen of Sidney is tied up in Mission, does anyone one know what Art's plan's for the vessel are?
I am looking for more information on her.
Thanks Ryan ryan@sfu.ca
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Post by BIFF Fisticuffs on Jul 18, 2003 12:37:18 GMT -8
I do beleive the Sidney , along with the Albert J. Savoie, have both been sold to a fishing co. by the name of "Rainy Day Fishing Co." I'm not sure where this co. is located, I just remember reading about it.
-BIFF!
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Post by John on Jul 18, 2003 12:52:20 GMT -8
Where abouts in Mission is she located? After she left New Westminster, I lost track of where she went.
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Post by Ryan on Jul 18, 2003 13:38:16 GMT -8
The Queen of Sidney is tied up in Mission (north side of the Fraser River) 5 kms west of down town mission or 1 km east of the Silverdale gas stations depending on where you are coming from.
The “Albert j. Savoie” is also docked there as well with the old steam ferry “San Mateo” from the wasjinton state ferry system. Yes, Rainey Logging Co. did purchase her (Art is the owner), he is currently trying to resell her.
I was wondering if anyone has heard if he has had any takers for the price he was asking?
Ryan rpreddy@sfu.ca ryan@sfu.ca
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Post by frerrymaniac101 on Jul 18, 2003 14:06:28 GMT -8
The San Mateo is as famous as the Kalakala I have wanted to see the San Mateo!
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Post by John on Jul 18, 2003 14:44:14 GMT -8
www.harlowmarine.com/ShowPiece.asp?PieceID=827&PieceType=Ferry+%2D+Car+%26+Passenger&ListingNo=MV330According to the above link, the Albert J. Savoie is up for sale through Harlow Marine International (asking price is 275,000 CAN). I'm guessing that Rainy Day Logging has hired them to sell the ferry. If that's the price for the AJS, I'd have to think that the Queen of Sidney would be close to if not over a million bucks. Depends in what kind of condition her engine is in probably. I always thought she would make a nice BC Ferries museum as she was the first one built for the fleet. You could tow it around to the different towns on the coast throughout the year!
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Post by ryan on Jul 19, 2003 13:15:57 GMT -8
I believe Art is asking around $500,000 area for the Queen of Sidney. After what he paid for her he still would make a huge profit.
I know if I knew what BCF were offering to sell her for I would have bought her. Although she needs alot of work she has so much potential.
A similar situation has happened to the Queen of Victoria. She was sold to a Central American company for $550,000 Cdn and now she is up for sale again for 1.5 mil US. BC ferries was very interested about this fact when I notified them.
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Post by John on Jul 19, 2003 21:53:32 GMT -8
Wow, that's really interesting. Maybe under the new ownership, B.C. Ferries won't be so generous when they sell their ships. I wish there was some way of keeping at least a few of our old ships around for history's sake. Even if you have to turn them into some type of commercial business. I guess they're expensive to upkeep, but if you just docked them somewhere and put a nice restaurant on them, it might not cost as much. Oh well, the people with money usually don't don't have too much time for "sentimental" reasons
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Post by Scott Arkell on Jul 21, 2003 9:50:44 GMT -8
I heard that Rainy Bay Logging was going to scrap the Queen of Sidney, and turn it into a barge... Also not too long ago, B.C Ferries came knocking at Rainy Bay's door asking if they could take generator and engine parts off the ferry, because the parts are so old that they do not make them anymore... Rainy Bay sold the parts for the same price they paid for the ferry (cheap buggers). Apparently they only paid a few thousand for the Sidney. So, it looks as if the Queen of Sidney's days might be coming to the end..... I hope when B.C Ferries eventually sells the Queen of Tsawwassen, they donate it to the B.C Maritime Museum, and create a huge exhibit of B.C Ferry Memorobilia, that would be the proper thing to do.
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Post by Ryan on Jul 21, 2003 10:48:11 GMT -8
She was bought for $100,000 and yes BC Ferries has bought many parts back for that exact reason. I know Rainey Day was looking at a poss Korean sale in March but that fell threw and then there was a poss restaurant deal and that fell threw as well. If they just let me take it off their hands for the price he paid for it I and I think everyone would be happy! :-) But no such luck!
When Rainey Day bought her, she still had 50,000 liters of Diesel and 10,000 liters of gear oil.
The future of Queen of Sidney .... the future only knows....
Ryan rpreddy@sfu.ca
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Post by MAckie on Aug 16, 2003 12:55:58 GMT -8
Hey guys just found this link.. its bout the sidney.. not sure if uve seen this yet but its interesting the work that "art" is doin to the sid!http://www.wraiths.org/bc_ferry.htm
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Post by Guest on Oct 5, 2003 14:09:48 GMT -8
The Queen of Sidney still has a lot of ASBESTOS in her. Going to be tough to sell her again. Can't even sink her without first removing all of the asbestos!!
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Post by Scott on Oct 5, 2003 15:22:03 GMT -8
Yes, In fact most of the V-Class ships (including the Sidney and Tsawwassen) still have asbestos left in them (especially in the machinery casing). I know the many of the enclosed spaces on the main deck, and the engine room enterance(s), all have warning signs posted. However, most (if not all) of the asbestos been enclosed and sealed with steel, metal or aluminium plating..
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Post by goman on Oct 12, 2003 11:14:57 GMT -8
... or "encapsulated" with paint!! g
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Post by ferryfreak on Oct 28, 2003 12:56:07 GMT -8
hopefully they dont scap her.she could be used for something like transporting logging trucks,machinery,equipment and people to logging camps,remote logging areas ect.
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Post by ferryfreak69 on Nov 21, 2003 8:30:56 GMT -8
i heard that rainy day fising co is based in roberts creek bc i looked on the canadian ship registry for the queen of sidney and the aj savoie and it said they were based at roberts creek
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Post by AL on Dec 1, 2003 15:18:26 GMT -8
Why would you have to remove asbestos before sinking her? Asbestos is a naturally occuring mineral, and is only dangerous to humans etc, when inhaled as tiny particles in the air. Underwater, it would pose no hazard at all. The hazard that would be posed is if a proper cleanup of all traces of grease, oil, and other similar substances wasn't carried out prior to the sinking.
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Post by Guest on Dec 1, 2003 16:14:17 GMT -8
Ask Enviroment Canada, Fisheries, and of course, GreenPeace about sinking ships full of asbestos.
It is not allowed.
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Post by shane on Jan 2, 2004 15:28:25 GMT -8
asbestos is only dangerous if you inhale the dust but if theres no dust its fine
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Post by shane on Jan 2, 2004 15:29:47 GMT -8
asbestos is only dangerous if you inhale the dust but if theres no dust its fine
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Post by Doug on Jan 24, 2004 12:03:33 GMT -8
Queen of Sidney was sold to a company called Rainy River Logging.
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Post by midnightrider on Jan 31, 2004 4:29:11 GMT -8
I feel the next ferry to be retired should be turned into a floating museum, housing memorbilia from BC's proud shipping history. They missed the boat (pun intended) when the Sidney, Victoria and even the Princess Marguerite were sold away.
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Post by guestorama on Jan 31, 2004 9:42:39 GMT -8
I don't think of the "Maggie" as a BC Ferry.
She was built offshore (UK I believe); spent most of her life with CP as a rail/car/passenger ferry between Vancouver and Vancouver Island; was renamed to "Princess of Vancouver Island" when she was taken over by the Highways department as a ferry between Comox and Powell River; and was promptly "disposed of" by the BC Ferry Corp when the salt water Highways ferries were taken over by the Ferry Corp.
She was just a "loaner"!
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Post by midnightrider on Jan 31, 2004 19:20:36 GMT -8
I agree with the comment about the Maggie. But the story you were referring to was Princess of vancouver. I simply included the Maggie to show that the BC government has had many options for a floating museum.
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Post by Dave on Mar 12, 2005 20:33:38 GMT -8
I believe the Sidney and the old hull of the Langdale were broken up on the Fraser River in the first couple of months of 2005.
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