mvQueenofnewwestminster
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Post by mvQueenofnewwestminster on Mar 15, 2005 16:52:51 GMT -8
Just checked out the current conditions page. Did anybody know that BOTH the cumbersome Cumberland AND the Mayne Queen were working in tandem today on the southern Gulf Islands run?
-Anybody know what's up with that?
-BIFF!
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Post by Balfour on Mar 15, 2005 17:01:05 GMT -8
That always happens on that route.
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 15, 2005 17:04:34 GMT -8
really? i thought the screaming queen had the capacity to handle the route  |
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Post by Balfour on Mar 15, 2005 17:19:02 GMT -8
THe Screaming Queen? Whasinawhatnow is that?
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 15, 2005 17:26:58 GMT -8
thats the nickname of the skeena queen, because of her long propeller shafts, they vibrate at high speed, and tend to "Scream"
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 15, 2005 17:27:38 GMT -8
i mistook Cumberland for the skeena queen
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Post by Balfour on Mar 15, 2005 17:41:22 GMT -8
I have noticed the scream and the vibrations she makes.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 15, 2005 19:42:21 GMT -8
that last post was almost pornographic.
When she screamed, did she cry out "Oh teach me to ski !"
too funny to my warped mind
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Koastal Karl
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Post by Koastal Karl on Mar 15, 2005 20:58:19 GMT -8
Working in Tandam, what the hell does that mean???
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 15, 2005 22:23:03 GMT -8
working together. just like the Klatawa nd the kulleet work in tandem to cross the fraser river.
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Post by Balfour on Mar 16, 2005 8:37:46 GMT -8
that last post was almost pornographic. When she screamed, did she cry out "Oh teach me to ski !" too funny to my warped mind Unfortunately Grouse Closed yesterday, and that likely means no CSIA Course, but I think It's snowing up there right now. Maybe it will re-open. |
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Post by cascade on Mar 16, 2005 9:09:56 GMT -8
I do like the general look of the Skeena Queen - but she is not that well designed. I am sure that BCF had high hope for this type of design..But the engine problems make her very diffcult to sell - even the design on some where.
A little bit off course here - but I did bring up this subject - if the BCF were so bloody great then why couldn't they sell any of the designs on around the world - where other Ferry companies or yards are able to?
Here is the proof - the design looks great - but in operational mode she is crap - you have just mention one of the major problems in the engines and Vib that comes off it. Maybe - and I could be totaly wrong - but didn't she - Skeena Queen cost a lot to build and there was a major delay in bringing her into service?
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 16, 2005 11:03:05 GMT -8
yeah. and if you were to take the skeena and drop then engines within 7 feet of the prop shafts(like the klatawa and kulleet) then suddenly im sure alot of the problems with the Skreaming queen would go away
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Post by cascade on Mar 16, 2005 11:37:04 GMT -8
I beleive that some of the problems are with the engines themself - as per problems with the shaft and the vib it was causing.
They have in broad general terms put in the wrong - type / size of engines - which appear to be the main - if not the only problem with this vessel.
What is the view from the "engineer" on this subject?
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Post by kylefossett on Mar 16, 2005 16:11:11 GMT -8
the skeena has had engines replaced. these were done under warranty by the supplier, mitsubishi i believe.
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Post by Dane on Mar 16, 2005 16:12:04 GMT -8
they also added large rubber pads under the new motors, apparently. Must look goofy.
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 16, 2005 16:25:04 GMT -8
yeah. but they tend to work. but i think they should switch them out with a pair of cats. they would last a lot longer. and they tend to have lesser vibrations. the rubber pads were on the Island planet, and they reduced the vibration to almost 0%
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Post by cascade on Mar 17, 2005 7:41:14 GMT -8
Skeena Queen : So we have come full circle - back to what I offered.
That she is a bloody design mistake. Like I said - looks good - but just doens't work.
You some times wonder how this design ever got pased and then put into production. Surely people - engineers in the ship yard would have noticed things about her.
I think she was late and very much over priced - hence why they only made one and not the talked about 3 vessels.
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 17, 2005 14:07:46 GMT -8
it was expensive because the shipyard that built her assumed shed be another large klataw, and insted they wanted all this curving surface, which made it harder fto build, and more expensive, and then the shafts made the engines wear out quicker. fix those, and then i think youd have another klitsa, which is out maybe .089% of the time for repairs.
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Post by cascade on Mar 18, 2005 8:21:57 GMT -8
So - like with a lot of things that BCF tried to do - like build a vessel they changed there mind half way through the project - or else the design / engineering side of the BC Ferries is crap.
I think more likely the design people don't talk to the engineers and vise verse. You can design a great - vessel on paper - then try to transfer that to metal - you come unstuck.
The problem she had in the very beginning should have never happen.
How can a shipyard - if they know what they are doing make a mistake and think that the Skeena Queen was something else ? Who runs these ship yards?
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Post by Koastal Karl on Mar 18, 2005 9:29:50 GMT -8
I have a program I recorded off of TV a few years ago called "How to Build a Car Ferry" it is on the building of the Skeena Queen. It's pretty good. Too bad there wasent a way to show it to everyone who hasent seen it.
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Post by cascade on Mar 18, 2005 10:34:32 GMT -8
Karl,
What was the outcome of the TV show? was there problems in the building - what was the general spin of the show?
Would love to hear your comments
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 18, 2005 13:53:50 GMT -8
ill take a copy in digitize it
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Post by Koastal Karl on Mar 18, 2005 21:11:02 GMT -8
Well I have the tape, the show is 30 min in length. I guess I could send the original tape but I would like it back after, unless I can figure out how to copy it.
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 19, 2005 10:51:38 GMT -8
hehe. why dont you give me a while to get the process perfect, and then ill ask for a copy.
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