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Post by Curtis on Nov 20, 2004 13:06:45 GMT -8
Sometime next year BC Ferries will build a new Intermediate Vessel to replace the Queen of Tsawwassen next year. The're are 3 shipyards (2 in Canada) that will be likely be given the chance to build the ship they are Allied Shipbuilders Ltd. (Canada),Seaspan International Ltd.(Canada), and Remontowa S.A.(Poland). Hopefully they won't build the ships over sea's like the Super C's are going to be.
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Post by Doug on Nov 20, 2004 13:56:46 GMT -8
The vessel is to be constructed in 2006-2007.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 20, 2004 17:00:48 GMT -8
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Post by craig on Nov 21, 2004 13:42:04 GMT -8
Ya i hope that the new ferries will prived a great experance 4 the passengers!!!!
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Post by Ian on Nov 21, 2004 19:20:45 GMT -8
I can't wait for the new ferries but the thing is i dislike the opendeck ferries, what are your(everyone) views.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Nov 21, 2004 21:42:49 GMT -8
How about a bigger version of the Cumberland to replace the Queen of Tsawwassen?? I love the Cumberland design. Or maybe a smaller version of the Alberni? Cumberland is the best out of the southern gulf island ferries! Where would this intermediate ferry be operating, which route?? But no matter what, shouled be a double ender.
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Post by Fenklebaum on Nov 22, 2004 11:41:34 GMT -8
How interesting. Why do you dislike open deck ferries. For my part, I must declare that if I were to choose between sailing aboard an open deck ferry and a closed in vessel, I'd pick the open deck ferry, hands down.
There's just something delightful about leaning up against the bulwark and watching the sea foam out from the side of the ship. Not to mention the ease with which one can observe virtually every deck operation as it happens.
K classes, Q classes, Mill Bay, Nimpkish and Tenaka... those are my favourites.
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Post by Balfour on Nov 24, 2004 16:33:30 GMT -8
I like anything with an inside area but still with a fair amount of Outer deck space. Ferries like the V, C, and S class as well as the Burnaby and the Sydney class. Ferries like the Capilano or the Powell River Class are fine as well
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Post by NMcKay on Nov 24, 2004 20:34:49 GMT -8
I have to agree with fenklebalm, i love the open deck atmosphere. they are awesome. and they dont require bulky bow doors, because they expell the water off automatically
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 23, 2004 22:33:46 GMT -8
I was just looking through the old BCF News on their homepage and back on Sept, 23, 2002 there was a plan to take Queen of Capilano and put it on the Earls Cove-Saltery Bay route. Doesn't the Bowen Queen do that route, or is it Chilliwack..or even Tsawwassen..Hmm I can't remember. But I thought Capilano was good on the Bowen Island route. I know know you all were talking about the Capilano getting moved along side with Cumbie in place of Mayne Queen or something. But I had no idea there was consideration of her going up to Earls Cove. Heres the link to this old article if anybody wants to see. www.bcferries.com/news/files/ib_-_rfp_-_new_intermediate_vessel.pdf |
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Post by Curtis on Dec 23, 2004 22:40:31 GMT -8
Queen of Chilliwack (Winter) Queen of Tsawwassen (Summer). Instead of the Cap on Saltery Bay-Earls Cove they should have a new type of Chilliwack on there, put ramps on the Cap and join the Cumbie on Swartz Bay-SGI, leave the Mayne and Bowen as relief vessels on (almost) all the Gulf Island runs and build the new Intermidiate vessel for Bowen Island-Horseshoe Bay also why couldn't the Cap maneuver into Earls Cove.(Im not sure if this is true I think I've heard it somwhere on the boards but I wasn't born yet to see if it isn't true just don't reply)
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Post by Koastal Karl on Dec 23, 2004 23:20:00 GMT -8
The Capilano is good on the Bowen Island run except for the increasing traffic demand she only carries 85 vehicles so as the years go on they will probably need a bigger ship for that run. Cumbie and Cap are cool ships though. The need more intermediate ferries like those.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 24, 2004 12:23:13 GMT -8
Hey, PRQ-kid, yes, I remember that the Capilaino was on the Jervis Inlet route, just after she was launched in 92 or so. I think it was taken off the route because it couldn't make the turn between the 2 small islands, just off from Earls Cove.
At that time the Chilliwack was new to BC Ferries too, and was doing the route the the Cumberland does now. So Cap moved to Howe Sound route, and Chilliwack moved up to Jervis....and then the Cummerbund took over the 'Wack's old route in southern gulf islands.
I remember driving down to Saltery Bay from PR, just to see the new vessel (the Capilaino), and I thought it was beautiful.
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Post by Curtis on Dec 24, 2004 12:38:40 GMT -8
It also kept breaking down so they moved it to Bowen Island closer to the repair area at Vancouver
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 24, 2004 13:00:23 GMT -8
They should just move the Cap to the SGI route in place of Mayne Queen and move her up to the Bowen Island route and make Bowen Queen there too so theres 2 boats doing that route so theres a sailing like every half an hour or something. But that would only be really efficient at peak times because there isn't always a whole lot of traffic on that route.
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Post by Curtis on Dec 24, 2004 16:03:39 GMT -8
During the low season one could go for refit than the other after that than both during the Summer season and Christmas
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Post by Queen of THe North on Dec 24, 2004 19:56:56 GMT -8
I don't mind open Car deck vessles, However if they need to buid vessles with a design siminalr to the mv Quinsam, Please make it so that the passengers have acces to the upper area such as on the Skeena Queen.  \\ Meryy Ho Ho! ;D |
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Post by NMcKay on Dec 26, 2004 11:45:46 GMT -8
the only thing on the upper decks of the Quinsam and the quinitsa are the control deck, or the wheelhouse. and right now there is a debate on whether or not that is a good idea to let passsengars see the control decks.
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Post by Doug on Dec 27, 2004 1:35:48 GMT -8
I think the new Cumberland Class vessel should just be an enlarged version of the two current sisters, perhaps longer. They should build three of these; one for Earls Cove-Saltery Bay (replacing Queen of Tsawwassen), one for Southern Gulf Islands-Tsawwassen (replacing Queen of Nanaimo) and one for Southern Gulf Islands-Swartz Bay (replacing Queen of Cumberland). I think that the Cumberland should replace Mayne Queen and they should build another vessel (similar to the Cumberland) to replace Bowen Queen. The vessel replacing the Queen of Nanaimo should have a larger wall along the car deck, however, to permit heavier seas, because she does cross the Strait.
But what do I know? I'm only a ferry enthusiast, some things I know and others I guess. Some things I don't have a clue.
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Post by kylefossett on Dec 27, 2004 15:12:41 GMT -8
any replacement vessel for route 9 (sgi-tsw) would have to be the same size or bigger then the queen of nanaimo. even in the low season the queen of nanaimo can be close to capacity mid-week.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Dec 27, 2004 16:27:25 GMT -8
Did anyone know WSF Evergreen State is the same length as the Queen of Cumberland???
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Post by Dane on Dec 28, 2004 19:36:44 GMT -8
I just posted about this on the BCF list, didn't realize this was here! Anyways BCF isnt acting fast enough to get a new intermediate ready to sail for the Tsawwassen to be removed according to their hoped for schedule.
The Cap is too small for Bowen, there is always at least 1 wait a day each way b/c of school kids headed to West Vancouver High. I have Cadets that come over from the Island and they are late every once in a while just b/c they cannot get back home from school on their regular schedule.
I'm willing to bet it's built in Canada for a political save-face, but who knows. BCF is an ellusive beast.
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Post by NMcKay on Dec 29, 2004 20:31:14 GMT -8
the cumberaland and the chilliwack burn too much fuel to be useful (almost 2x more than the ship that was previously on the run) and it would be more econimical for a ship like the quinsam(although bigger) to be placed on the run
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Post by Ferryman on Mar 20, 2005 18:07:51 GMT -8
I was watching CH News Victoria at 5 about an hour ago, and apparently the decision of the shipyard to build the new vessel to take over the Bowen-Horseshoe Bay route will be decided after the BC election in May. It looks like the runners up for the building the vessel is the shipyards in Vancouver, Victoria, and one in Poland. I don't know what you guys think, but I sure hope they have it built at one of the shipyards here. It would be neat to see the first intermediate vessel to be built in the new millenium in BC. Haha I haven't heard anyone say the new millenium for like 5 years. Time sure flies!
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 20, 2005 18:45:19 GMT -8
Re the "new millennium". Were you a Jan.1, 2000 person, or a Jan.1, 2001 person?
I was a believer in Jan.1, 2001 being the true start of the new millennium.
I snickered at all the Jan.1, 2000 folks, especially the media.
So, do you count your dates from 1 to 10, or 0 to 9......
Enquiring minds want to know.
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