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Post by Balfour on Jan 29, 2005 23:02:22 GMT -8
Ever notice how the ship captains always run the ships faster than normal, especially when it's busy?
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Post by NMcKay on Jan 29, 2005 23:04:19 GMT -8
yeah. just because they list a service speed of 19 or 22 knots. doesn;t mean they cant do 25 - 28 knots if they need too. THe HL runs @ something like 30 knots service with a top speed of 35 or something like that.
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Post by Curtis on Jan 29, 2005 23:06:11 GMT -8
I noticed they did that on the burn once
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Post by NMcKay on Jan 29, 2005 23:08:52 GMT -8
one night my grandparents were coming over for christmas. and it was snowing and miserable. and the captain came on and said "if no one minds, lets get us all home early" and he cranked her up to full speed and they were home something like 30 mins early
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Post by Balfour on Jan 29, 2005 23:14:36 GMT -8
I remember last August when I was going back to Vancouver from Saltspring, and getting on a Skeena Queen out of Fulford harbour that was 10-15 mins late. Usually the trip takes 35 minutes, but instead it took 28 mins. I have also been on the Cow or Coq returning to Vancouver from Tofino, Parksville or from a SKeeter camp, and they've done more than 22 knots. The Queen of New Westminster has d**n powerful engines. she does a service speed of 21 knots but could probably do maybe 30. The above mentioned were all on busy sailings. The same idea applies with any mode of transportation (I know, it's a bit off topic) on Grouse mountain, the Gondola usually does an 8 minute trip, but it can do up to a 4 minute trip legally with a full load of 100 pasengers. In an emergency situation, with Ski patrol, trammie, and the injured person, it can do a 2 1/2 minute trip. If you're wondering how I know this stuff, I'm a ski instructor on Grouse Mountain.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jan 29, 2005 23:22:07 GMT -8
Well I took the Kootenay Bay ferry this summer, the Osprey 2000, out of Kootenay Bay to Balfour and it was the 2pm sailing which is the last sailing for the morning crew. The sailing is about 35 minutes but they did it in like 25 mins. As I was talking to a crew member on the Non BC Ferries section of this board who works on the Osprey 2000 he told me that being it's the last sailing for the morning crew they like to get back as soon as they can. Then they do a crew change and the new crew comes on. So I guess the last sailing of the night for the evening crew would be the same. A shorter crossing.
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Post by Ferryman on Jan 29, 2005 23:41:29 GMT -8
Yeah I've experienced New West going full speed too. Quite the vibrations at the back when her engines are giving 'er all she's got. It was the 8:15pm out of Tsawwassen and she was 45mins late and we left at about 9 and got to Duke Point around 10:30.
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Post by NMcKay on Jan 30, 2005 0:07:28 GMT -8
its nuts. dust was falling from the ceiling, the ship was shaking like nuts. and you couldn;t sit over the engines. cause the vibrations woulda scrampled your insides.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jan 30, 2005 10:38:26 GMT -8
Airlines do the same thing. You have flights that depart late so they try to make up time and get in at the scheduled time. sorry a little off topic.
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Post by Balfour on Jan 30, 2005 13:24:54 GMT -8
I'd like to go on the Newest at full speed one day. It sounds insane
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Post by Dane on Feb 1, 2005 16:50:44 GMT -8
I dont believe they can do over 30 knots, thats a 50% increase over their average operating speed. Even with high winds it's doubtful. The Spirits average trip speed is a mere 13-14 knots (thats total average speed, including docking)
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Post by NMcKay on Feb 1, 2005 18:15:45 GMT -8
Dont worry. at maximum speed im sure that those ships top out @ 25 - 28 Knots.
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Post by kylefossett on Feb 1, 2005 18:42:36 GMT -8
if you want a quicker then usual trip take the nanny on a friday night. if it has been a crazy night and the nanny is running behind schedule she can and has been known to do the run from tsawwassen to long harbour in 1hr 10min. the scheduled time for this run is roughly 1hr 30min. especially if the friday night sailing is the last afternoon shift of a set for the crew then the coals are fired up and they cruise pretty good
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Post by Balfour on Feb 1, 2005 21:53:03 GMT -8
Sometimes when I'm running behind schedule to get to work on time, I'll usually drive faster than I usually do when going up Nancy Greene Way. A good 80km/h gets me up there from my house in like a minute. (a bit off topic)
This might be a good question for any of the Engineer members. What is the Maximum speed of the New West? I originally guessed 30 knots considering she has 16, 800 hp, which is a s***load.
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Post by Balfour on Feb 1, 2005 21:54:24 GMT -8
I like how the board censors everything. It turned the SH word into nuts.
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Post by Dane on Feb 1, 2005 23:10:53 GMT -8
The Spirit is BC and Vancouver Island are a mere 20 knots... thats from the 2nd officer which he based more on personal observation (he's helping me buy a car so I threw in the question LOL). They are, however, slower than the Cs.
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Post by NMcKay on Feb 2, 2005 10:45:15 GMT -8
im sure they go faster than that. 20 knots? geeze. the C class can do that in thier sleep.
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Post by Balfour on Feb 2, 2005 17:29:02 GMT -8
I was just looking at the current conditions for HB-LNGDL, and judging by the 15 min delay on the 3:30 pm departure out of HB, and the early 4:30 departure out of Langdale, I figure they ran the Queen of Surrey faster than usual to manage that.
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Post by Ian on Feb 2, 2005 18:10:35 GMT -8
Once the queen of vancouver backed into tswassen and went forwards into swartz bay, reverse loading, i am not sure why.
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Post by Dane on Feb 2, 2005 23:26:10 GMT -8
The Spirits are slugs. Seriously, they are very very slow. They couldn't even do the Route 2 crossing if they were single ended ships unless they had optimum conditions.
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Post by NMcKay on Feb 2, 2005 23:32:34 GMT -8
i think that the captains dont run the Spirit @ full speed because of the fuel that would be required.
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Post by Ian on Feb 3, 2005 16:29:24 GMT -8
The spirits are really nice ships, built really well, i really like them see below.
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Post by NMcKay on Feb 3, 2005 19:37:35 GMT -8
they look nice from the front. but they look i swear too much wierd from the back. all rounded like that.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Feb 3, 2005 22:13:38 GMT -8
The Spirits arent slugs and they are really nice ships. I think they look good from both front and back. I think they could do route 2, and they are single ended ships, I dont what who ever said that meant by that. But the V class are single ended and they can do the route. Takes longer, and they would have to upgrade the terminals at Horseshoe Bay and Departure Bay, it would be neat to see the SOVI or SOBC sitting in Horseshoe Bay. Send the Spirits up to route 2 and bring down the C's to route 1. I want C class ships on route 1, darn it!! Cow and Coq, C class ships rock! So the Spirits ships too though.
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Post by Ferryman on Feb 4, 2005 9:29:03 GMT -8
On tuesday I caught the 5pm sailing from HSB on Cowichan and we left at 5 on the dot, and got to DPB at 6:30, 5 mins early. It was a really quiet trip, the upper car deck only had cars at the front in the area that wasn't covered by the passenger deck, and the bottom car deck wasn't full either. Snack Bar was closed but was open for about the first 20mins of the trip. Anyways going again tomorrow from DPB, but haven't decided if I'll go on Cow or Coq. Wouldn't they need to fix the docks at HSB for the Spirits? Aren't they wider or something? But then again the V-Class can dock in the same docks the Spirits do at SWB and TSA
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