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Post by Balfour on Mar 27, 2005 17:47:13 GMT -8
Now Why didn't I think of that? It's brilliant!
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 27, 2005 17:48:09 GMT -8
yeah. and too bad eh. would worked well. even if the cats ran at 22 Knots.
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Post by Balfour on Mar 27, 2005 17:49:19 GMT -8
I wonder how the Cats could handle Queen Charlotte Sound with the waves from the open Pacific.
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 27, 2005 17:52:05 GMT -8
they would handel it well. they were designed to take anything that the pacific could throw at it.
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Post by Dane on Mar 27, 2005 23:19:28 GMT -8
they would handel it well. they were designed to take anything that the pacific could throw at it. They weren't... hense one of the resale problems. They've been re-engined (before the sale) so fuel consumption was a lot less of an issue. Plus the cats can't handle trucks at all, Route 30 has little car traffic to justify them (albeit with service being offered every two hours with a 90 minute crossing popularity may have grown) |
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 28, 2005 0:23:18 GMT -8
i think that she would have worked. even just during the summer. if they played with them. moved them up north, maybe even started a new run specifically for them, then it would have worked. can i have permission to hit David Hahn in the mouth now?
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Post by harbourlynx on Apr 26, 2005 19:01:35 GMT -8
I dont know what the cs and ss are and I do not know what refit means either so can you please explain
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Post by Curtis on Apr 26, 2005 19:17:51 GMT -8
Refit the key term for when a ship goes for matinence or fixing such as the Queen of Burnaby which had sections of deck steel replaced recently the key refit basin for BCF, Deas Island Matinance Dock
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Post by cascade on Apr 27, 2005 9:53:37 GMT -8
Part of the problem with the wake / wash on the Fast Cat's was that they did the cal - on the orginal design plus tank testing. Then they re-design the whole craft without carrying out anymore testing ect...
If you use the "Froude" method to cal the wake / wave / wash - then you need to add in the weight - lenght and speed of the vessel. Plus you need to have the depth of the inlet - channel you are crossing.
Using the RINA / LLoyds rules on this issue - the Fast Cats - are very heavy for there overal size - plus the Strait is deep - so you have what is called "bulk wave energy" which travels over a number of miles. This also causes problems and increases the maximum height of the long wave.
There is the environmental implications - and we have a number of different shore lines on the coast. Some are what we call "Hard" shore - made from Granite and have steep drop off points - and some are called "soft verge" - which is known as a sandy beach to the common person. The wash / wave will cause the major damage to the soft verge over a shorter period of time than the rock / hard verge.
I email Harbourlynx Kid a review done a few years back on the so called "American Experts" with regard to the Fast Cat - in one of there reports they didn't even go out on the vessel - just did "desk top" research - got paid massive amounts of money - thank you - for doing nothing.
Currently BC does not have any rules at all on the Wake - wash - Wave subject - nor does it have any rules - laws on the marine engines emission - unlike our friends south of us.
Another thing - which I am sure you did not know - was that until April 2003 - Anyone could set themself up as a "ferry company" - you did not require a license - to move people across waters in BC. Yes I know that there a few Canadian federal laws on the transportation of people - but these are water thin and have only been added to since 2003. So before 2003 - anyone could buy a old Ferry boat and find a dock / terminal - load cars & people and move them across the water. Yoou only needed to make sure that you were sea worthy.
The BC Government in 1999 commission a local Vancouver company to look at a number of different Ferry / passenger only type of routes - in this report - on the net - it high lighted the total lack of rules and reg's in operating a ferry system. What a mess.
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Post by Ferryman on May 4, 2005 17:39:38 GMT -8
Queen of Newwestminster is going to be out of Service on May 14th for some work to prepare her for the summer. I guess no annual refit this year because of a major upgrade coming soon?? So Queen of Vancouver will be the replacement that day. Seems weird they're doing that on a weekend, let's hope they don't make it any longer than 1 day because the next day is a Sunday and we all know how the overloads go on the Tsawwassen-Swartz Bay route, but then again it shouldn't be that bad because both Spirits will be running, unless I just jinxed it...
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Post by Balfour on May 4, 2005 17:49:49 GMT -8
I think you might have... ;D
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Post by Curtis on May 4, 2005 18:41:30 GMT -8
Just be luckey it's still the off season and there isn't that much traffic if it was 2 months from now it would be a issue
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Post by Balfour on May 4, 2005 18:44:48 GMT -8
I know it will be busy on the May Long Weekend so that's why I'm catching a morning sailing over to Nanaimo on Friday Morning and not friday afternoon. Some people are going to the camp on Thursday night even though it doeasn't officially start until friday.
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Post by kylefossett on May 4, 2005 19:05:14 GMT -8
it is being done on a saturday because this is the slowest day for commercial traffic on that run so less of an impact
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Post by Balfour on May 4, 2005 19:07:21 GMT -8
I never knew that. I guess regular vehicle traffic isn't very common on Route 30.
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Post by kylefossett on May 4, 2005 19:47:04 GMT -8
alot of commercial stuff is shipped over weekends. ship off island on friday and recieve on island monday morning leaving saturday as a slow commercial vehicle day.
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