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Post by harbourlynx on Feb 21, 2006 18:06:18 GMT -8
[glow=green,2,300]I think that the Queen of Sidney should because I live in Sidney.[/glow]
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Post by Dane on Feb 21, 2006 23:33:39 GMT -8
The fast cats so the V Class would be gone. I got off the Saanich a few hours ago and I still feal dirty  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 22, 2006 7:14:52 GMT -8
We're here for you, Dane. You can overcome this, and feel clean again.......if you only believe.
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Post by Dane on Feb 22, 2006 14:03:10 GMT -8
I looked at some pictures of the S-Class, went to a peer lead discussion of having a fear of the V Class and I appear to be okay now ha ha ha
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Post by EGfleet on Feb 22, 2006 19:39:44 GMT -8
I'd go with the Sechelt Queen, Langdale Queen or Queen of Sidney. Though if we're going with the going-back-in-time angle, then it might be kind of fun to take a ride on the Smokwa just to see how much of a clunker she was.  |
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Post by Mike C on Feb 22, 2006 19:43:38 GMT -8
Sorry, I on;y put up the most recent retiries. Yeah, I would go on the Smokwa too. Hmm... That or the Queen of Victoria.
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Post by divcoles on Mar 17, 2006 21:22:11 GMT -8
Awe... you gotta go with the Sunshine Coast Queen... first large double-ender in the fleet. Dual engine rooms, overweight, lots of strealined character. Of course, I'm VERY prejudiced!!!
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Post by Curtis on Mar 17, 2006 22:53:52 GMT -8
To go on all those ships would have been cool
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Post by Quinsam on Mar 17, 2006 22:56:09 GMT -8
I wouldn't mind the Saltspring and Vesuvius Queens coming back, they were pretty much twins, and look in good enough condition in the pictures, the Vesuvius queen had seats on her to watch some type of game. I do not know the Salty's location, but I think it was mentioned on here a few months ago.
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Post by Dane on Mar 17, 2006 22:58:43 GMT -8
I wouldn't mind the Saltspring and Vesuvius Queens coming back, they were pretty much twins, and look in good enough condition in the pictures, the Vesuvius queen had seats on her to watch some type of game. I do not know the Salty's location, but I think it was mentioned on here a few months ago. They were garbage, I can't remember how much they sold for but so "cheap" I actually almost convinced my dad to buy one, no joke. (Then we started looking at insurance, moorage and fuel costs and decided we'd be better off with a sail boat which was later assaulted by the Queen of Oak Bay) On a much happier note Sewells Makes an AWESOME photo location for the ferries in Horseshoe Bay. If any of you would like to get down onto the breaker barge to take photos I'd be happy to let you in, just don't die. |
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Post by Neil on Mar 17, 2006 23:31:37 GMT -8
Alright, I finally broke down and smoked some of the same stuff you guys have been smoking... and decided I would bring back the Chinook, before they cut her nose off. Very nice lines, inside and out, a real little coastal liner..... but I believe Black Ball just had her on the Victoria- Port Angeles run before the Coho was built; I don't think she went Victoria - Seattle. Might be wrong there, though.
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Post by Retrovision on Mar 17, 2006 23:59:51 GMT -8
but I believe Black Ball just had her on the Victoria- Port Angeles run before the Coho was built; I don't think she went Victoria - Seattle. Might be wrong there, though. yup... Chinook 'til '54 or so, withdrawn, Klatawa '55-'60, Coho after that... Atleast I think that's how it goes... that's what I remember from EvergreenFleet.com ( www.evergreenfleet.com/kalakala.html -about half a dozen paragraphs from the end) |
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Post by Dane on Mar 18, 2006 0:48:38 GMT -8
Ugh I can't find the price for those ships anywhere, but the steal market was poor, and one was partially stripped down selling for far below $100 000. While I probably won't make that much before I'm 25, that's pretty damn cheap for your own ferry. That's like 1/5 the cost of the house I'm in right now (albeit there's a mortage)
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Post by divcoles on Mar 18, 2006 9:42:06 GMT -8
Alright, I finally broke down and smoked some of the same stuff you guys have been smoking... and decided I would bring back the Chinook, before they cut her nose off. Very nice lines, inside and out, a real little coastal liner..... but I believe Black Ball just had her on the Victoria- Port Angeles run before the Coho was built; I don't think she went Victoria - Seattle. Might be wrong there, though. The Chinook was built by Puget Sound Navigation (The Blackball Line) for use on the triangle route, Seattle, Victoria, Vancouver. She mostly ran Seattle-Victoria as the day boat, while the Iroquois ran as the night boat hauling newsprint and other freight. When Washington State Ferries bought out most of Alexander Peabody's fleet in 1951, the Chinook continued to run in competition with the Princess Margarite, but found it to be to saturated a market. So Peabody started poking into bays and inlets in Canada looking for a new place to do business. One of the first, was the Howe Sound route, which he originally developed out of Horseshoe Bay, using the some of his smaller ferries, which he re-registered Canadian for the purpose. That's when he also registered the Chinook as Canadian, and started the company Blackball of Canada. The company that runs the Coho is an American business, located in Bellevue, WA, called Blackball Transport. It was started after 1951 by Mr. Acheson and other former Puget Sound Navigation employees displaced by Washington State Ferries. It was owned for many years by Atcheson's widow, Lois Atcheson. |
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Post by Quinsam on Mar 18, 2006 10:00:46 GMT -8
I wouldn't mind the Saltspring and Vesuvius Queens coming back, they were pretty much twins, and look in good enough condition in the pictures, the Vesuvius queen had seats on her to watch some type of game. I do not know the Salty's location, but I think it was mentioned on here a few months ago. They were garbage, I can't remember how much they sold for but so "cheap" I actually almost convinced my dad to buy one, no joke. (Then we started looking at insurance, moorage and fuel costs and decided we'd be better off with a sail boat which was later assaulted by the Queen of Oak Bay) Garbage he says! The Vesuvius queen was not garbage, because she is now a stadium watching place! But I have no Idea what happened to the Saltspring Queen. They both looked good and why not return them to the fleet as supplementary vessels? That is what I would do if I took the place of David Hahn the former American. |
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 18, 2006 10:20:44 GMT -8
id like to take a ridee on the old vessel that used to service albion, i can not remember her name right now. but it was an old bot with "excellent manuverability"
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Post by Neil on Mar 18, 2006 13:06:56 GMT -8
It was the "T'Lagunna".
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Post by NMcKay on Mar 18, 2006 13:14:16 GMT -8
that would be it. do you know the story behind it? the T'Lagunna and the Drunk Captain?
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Post by ferrytraveller on Mar 18, 2006 14:15:00 GMT -8
The Saltspring Queen was sold by BC Ferries in 1996 for $106,000.
In 1998, the Vesuvius Queen was sold to Agencia Naviera Del Caribe of the Dominican Republic for $85,550.
info from John Hammersmark's retired bc ferries website.
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Post by Retrovision on Mar 18, 2006 16:23:36 GMT -8
So Peabody started poking into bays and inlets in Canada looking for a new place to do business. One of the first, was the Howe Sound route, which he originally developed out of Horseshoe Bay, using the some of his smaller ferries, which he re-registered Canadian for the purpose. That's when he also registered the Chinook as Canadian, and started the company Blackball of Canada. The company that runs the Coho is an American business, located in Bellevue, WA, called Blackball Transport. It was started after 1951 by Mr. Acheson and other former Puget Sound Navigation employees displaced by Washington State Ferries. It was owned for many years by Atcheson's widow, Lois Atcheson. Thank you for the information; quite comprehensive and concise at the same time. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = I've always wondered the true connection between the State of Washington, PSN, and W.A.C. Bennet / B.C. It's always seemed to smell of something to me; as I've learned the hard facts through books, from the little of the anecdotal evidence that's there, there isn't enough evidence to think of the possibility of anything such as colusion, but still, I can't ignore W.A.C. Bennet(and party)'s style of the time. |
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Post by Starbucks Queen on Mar 19, 2006 2:45:06 GMT -8
Alright, I finally broke down and smoked some of the same stuff you guys have been smoking... and decided I would bring back the Chinook, before they cut her nose off. Very nice lines, inside and out, a real little coastal liner..... but I believe Black Ball just had her on the Victoria- Port Angeles run before the Coho was built; I don't think she went Victoria - Seattle. Might be wrong there, though. The Chinook was built by Puget Sound Navigation (The Blackball Line) for use on the triangle route, Seattle, Victoria, Vancouver. She mostly ran Seattle-Victoria as the day boat, while the Iroquois ran as the night boat hauling newsprint and other freight. When Washington State Ferries bought out most of Alexander Peabody's fleet in 1951, the Chinook continued to run in competition with the Princess Margarite, but found it to be to saturated a market. So Peabody started poking into bays and inlets in Canada looking for a new place to do business. One of the first, was the Howe Sound route, which he originally developed out of Horseshoe Bay, using the some of his smaller ferries, which he re-registered Canadian for the purpose. That's when he also registered the Chinook as Canadian, and started the company Blackball of Canada. The company that runs the Coho is an American business, located in Bellevue, WA, called Blackball Transport. It was started after 1951 by Mr. Acheson and other former Puget Sound Navigation employees displaced by Washington State Ferries. It was owned for many years by Atcheson's widow, Lois Atcheson. Thank you very much for that information, I have quite sometimes been wondering about the story behind that.. Though it´s UTTER NONSENSE to wonder "if you had the power" blabla.. does not lead anywhere, though so just see the reality, please. |
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Post by Retrovision on Mar 19, 2006 3:01:25 GMT -8
Thank you very much for that information, I have quite sometimes been wondering about the story behind that.. Though it´s UTTER NONSENSE to wonder "if you had the power" blabla.. does not lead anywhere, though so just see the reality, please. sorry, I misunderstood... "...so just see the reality, please." Please clarify. -- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = -- On a related note: There's a rumour about a Thesis that's been written on a matter concerning W.A.C. Bennett's influence over the strikes of the '50s that ended up triggering the creation of BCFerries. |
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Post by Starbucks Queen on Mar 19, 2006 3:04:34 GMT -8
The rumour... could you let us know that ? At least seems have to caused a good thing - createion of BCF  Although my only experience with that company is the Spirit of Vancouver island and that was a very good experience. |
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Post by Retrovision on Mar 19, 2006 3:20:49 GMT -8
I don't think that I should mention any details, other than the fact that it was from a Canadian University; I wouldn't want to have heard about it in confidence, and spill the details to someone else because I didn't remember so. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 19, 2006 12:38:48 GMT -8
re the quote "Though it´s UTTER NONSENSE to wonder "if you had the power" blabla.. does not lead anywhere, though so just see the reality, please. "Chivy: If you had the power to have humour and the ability to dream, what would your dream be ? Sorry if that's too far from reality  |
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Although my only experience with that company is the Spirit of Vancouver island and that was a very good experience. 