Doug
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Post by Doug on May 25, 2005 18:53:38 GMT -8
As the title says...I got a few I know of I'll post, most of which are European (except Baltic Sea  ) but to start this off, I call this one The Funnel:  . |
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Koastal Karl
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Post by Koastal Karl on May 25, 2005 18:56:22 GMT -8
That ones not really that ugly, it just has a huge long funnel! Would look better if the funnel was smaller!
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Doug
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Post by Doug on May 25, 2005 18:59:19 GMT -8
Ya, that's what I was thinking, that thing must be AT LEAST 50 feet high.
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Post by Curtis on May 25, 2005 19:29:31 GMT -8
I would call this things on ships that make you say holey crabapple!
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Post by Balfour on May 25, 2005 21:00:34 GMT -8
THe funnel's just as high as the ship!
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Doug
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Post by Doug on May 25, 2005 21:00:53 GMT -8
Here's a couple on Calais-Dover, I've found in pictures that they seem to be "undermaintained" on the exterior...as for the interior I have no comment.   |
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Post by Balfour on May 25, 2005 21:02:44 GMT -8
Now that looks weird
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Post by Doug on May 25, 2005 21:03:42 GMT -8
And a note in regards to the double ramping system in European ferry terminals (note mainly to Cascade ), apparently Calais and Dover have them. |
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Post by Doug on May 25, 2005 21:05:58 GMT -8
Very.  |
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Post by cascade on May 26, 2005 6:53:34 GMT -8
Doug,
Your wrong - it is a single ramp. We have tidal movement like there is in BC. Here it is about 12 - to 16 ft. The fixed terminal towers go up and down with the tidal movement, where as the shore base deck stays the same. The P&O Vessel you pictured - with the front loading ramp in France - the French have a small difference in there Docks. In the UK the actual dock are about 1/2 to the tidal movement - so the ramp system is not so steep for the cars & Trucks. The French system - which you have shown. There deck space - is at ground zero - so you need a much longer ramp system to counter the tidal movement - hence it looks massive - but is only a single way of loading - have a much closer look.
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Post by Quinsam on May 27, 2005 7:16:55 GMT -8
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Post by NMcKay on May 27, 2005 13:14:35 GMT -8
yeah. they look like something that the navy would use. very sleek. but not all that efficent.
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Post by Curtis on May 27, 2005 15:06:57 GMT -8
Your probably right
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Post by Political Incorrectness on May 27, 2005 15:54:30 GMT -8
they are different cause they have to stand up to weather which is more violent than in BC. The P&O Ferries except the Pride of Cantebury class are ugly cause they're old. SeaFrance is much better.
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Post by cascade on May 31, 2005 10:53:49 GMT -8
One thing to remember on "Cross Channel" ferries - is that they went from one country to another country - hence at that time each country had it own requirement - and dock - berthing system - until the 1980's rolled around - then the operators got there act together. Now with all of us been part of the EU - things have stream lined a little. We have a lot of newer ships in the Northern parts of Europe. The older stuff is sold to Africa & India etc ---more to third world type countries - where rules and Reg's are not as tight - on things like vessel maint'ce and crew training - safety....
The English channel can be very bad - even the Med - or it can be like a "milk pond" - just depends on the day - even in the summer & winter.
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Post by cascade on May 31, 2005 11:02:52 GMT -8
Added to the above - each country in Europe seems to think that there vessel - Ferry design is the best.
You may not see it - but there really is big changes in each countries views. It is easy to see in things like clothes and music. Music in Germany - just doesn't transfer in the UK market - and then people copy French or Italian fashion design.
The Italian ship yards are very known for there design - but lack in the ship building. We would never buy a vessel built in Italy - but from Norway. We would never buy clothes from Norway - as there fashion sense to use is so back wards - but we would order a ship to be built there as they know how to do it.
I like the look of an Italian design boat - but if I know it was built in Italy - then it is another matter if I actually go on board. I would like to live a little bit longer.
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Post by NMcKay on May 31, 2005 20:59:58 GMT -8
What about the aussies? or the americans?
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Post by Balfour on May 31, 2005 21:03:56 GMT -8
I haven't heard much about the quality of design, and build for ferries built by the Aussies.
As for the Americans they're probably like "Go big or Go home"
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Post by NMcKay on May 31, 2005 21:07:38 GMT -8
nah. If your thinking aussie. check out "Austal" and if your thinking american, try all amercian marine.
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Post by cascade on Jun 1, 2005 6:17:45 GMT -8
You should ask Harbourlynx about the difference in design between the Southern Hemisphere - Austral and the Northern Hemisphere - Fjellstrand - yards for there views on 40m to 80m Fast Ferry design philosophy.
He is operating a Northern design built in the Southern hemisphere.
The American Yards are very keen to hold hands with the Austral yard - as they do lot's of "Government" design works. Also the Austral yard is more stable financially then the Fjellstrand - Norwegian yards who have been sold a few times in the last 15 years.
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Post by Quinsam on Jul 21, 2005 18:31:01 GMT -8
Here is a nice ferry, maybe ugly to you guys, but it is like the Cumberland with a spirit type bridge.  |
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Post by Balfour on Jul 21, 2005 18:33:01 GMT -8
I think that ferry got lifted, there's a pic of it lifted somewhere on this forum.
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Post by Quinsam on Jul 21, 2005 18:37:22 GMT -8
It's called Red Falcon
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Post by Quinsam on Jul 21, 2005 18:38:40 GMT -8
Launched Monday 18th October 1993, when I was 1 year old!  |
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Post by Balfour on Jul 21, 2005 18:39:58 GMT -8
I was 6 when it was launched.
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) but to start this off, I call this one The Funnel: 
