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Post by WettCoast on Aug 3, 2019 21:05:00 GMT -8
Local gov't should 'explore options' for building a bridge and join the 21st century-Prince Rupert is such a pathetic place in so many ways.
1 - How would you propose that Prince Rupert, a city with a population of about 20,000, pay for a bridge that would cost a billion dollars? Or are you willing to chip in your share for the province to pay for such a bridge? 2 - Would you also consider Campbell River to be a 'pathetic place' because they did not build a bridge over to Quadra Island yet? Nanaimo must also be 'pathetic' as they did not yet build a bridge to Gabriola.
Are you one of those people who thinks BC as a province is 'pathetic' because it did not yet build a bridge from the mainland to Vancouver Island?
Seriously?
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Post by whalebreath on Aug 6, 2019 17:00:13 GMT -8
Local gov't should 'explore options' for building a bridge and join the 21st century-Prince Rupert is such a pathetic place in so many ways.
1 - How would you propose that Prince Rupert, a city with a population of about 20,000, pay for a bridge that would cost a billion dollars? Or are you willing to chip in your share for the province to pay for such a bridge?
Not quite as pathetic since people pulling trailers with boats on them and who are looking to spend money aren't treated like fifth class citizens like they are in Prince Rupert
Is being decades behind the rest of the planet pathetic?
Have you seen the transportation infrastructure China is building with it's Belt & Road project?
A person might not like their politics but they do know how to build for the future.
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Post by Neil on Aug 6, 2019 19:29:45 GMT -8
1 - How would you propose that Prince Rupert, a city with a population of about 20,000, pay for a bridge that would cost a billion dollars? Or are you willing to chip in your share for the province to pay for such a bridge? Not quite as pathetic since people pulling trailers with boats on them and who are looking to spend money aren't treated like fifth class citizens like they are in Prince Rupert
Is being decades behind the rest of the planet pathetic?
Have you seen the transportation infrastructure China is building with it's Belt & Road project?
A person might not like their politics but they do know how to build for the future. Prince Rupert has a population of about 13,000, with a handful of scheduled daily departures and arrivals from it's airport. It hasn't needed an upgrade from the existing ferry for decades. How could you possibly justify an expenditure of hundreds of millions of dollars for a bridge, from any level of government? It's bizarre to bring China's 'belt and road' initiative into the argument, since a very good case can be made that what the Chinese government is doing is funding and controlling infrastructure in Asia and elsewhere in an effort to exercise regional political and economic control. Not very applicable in the question of how a few thousand Rupertites a year get to their airport. |
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Post by Nickfro on Aug 7, 2019 12:13:43 GMT -8
Currently Prince Rupert Airport has two (2) scheduled daily departures between Prince Rupert (YPR) and Vancouver (YVR), serviced by Q400 aircraft that has approx. 75 seats. The Q400 started on this route just for this summer, previously the Dash 8 300 of 50 seat capacity was the aircraft used. So 150 daily passengers each way max, plus terminal staff and any small charters that come through (and any Digby residents, if applicable) and you're talking an absolute max 500 people per day, both directions combined. Hardly a volume to justify a public expenditure of a bridge.
I don't see Prince Rupert Airport's daily volume increasing much beyond what it currently serves, considering it only serves that area. Anywhere inland and people are more likely to fly through Terrace which has more daily flights and multiple carriers (hopefully lower fares).
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Post by Nick on Aug 7, 2019 12:20:09 GMT -8
I don't see Prince Rupert Airport's daily volume increasing much beyond what it currently serves, considering it only serves that area. Anywhere inland and people are more likely to fly through Terrace which has more daily flights and multiple carriers (hopefully lower fares). Significantly lower fares and fewer weather cancellations/delays through Terrace. Many Rupert-ites fly through Terrace rather than doing the hour+ trip to the Rupert airport. |
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Post by WettCoast on Aug 7, 2019 13:49:44 GMT -8
I don't see Prince Rupert Airport's daily volume increasing much beyond what it currently serves, considering it only serves that area. Anywhere inland and people are more likely to fly through Terrace which has more daily flights and multiple carriers (hopefully lower fares). Significantly lower fares and fewer weather cancellations/delays through Terrace. Many Rupert-ites fly through Terrace rather than doing the hour+ trip to the Rupert airport. The Terrace airport (YXT) is actually the Terrace-Kitimat airport and serves a considerably larger population than does the YPR airport. It has regular flights with Air Canada, WestJet, & Central Mountain Air. It will also soon have direct flights to Calgary, as well as Vancouver. The LNG-fueled boom is keeping things hoping at YXT.
The justification for a bridge to Digby Island is shall we say non-existent. We need to also remember that Prince Rupert's harbour is second only to Vancouver in importance for international shipping to/from Canada's Pacific rim. Any bridge to Digby would have to have at least as much clearance under it as the Lion's Gate does, or it would have to have a lift span like the Second Narrows rail bridge, which would make it less useful as a road bridge.
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Post by WettCoast on Aug 15, 2020 9:36:38 GMT -8
The Digby Island Ferry makes its way across Rupert Harbour toward its berth on Digby Island. Some of Rupert's fancier real estate forms the back drop.
A crop from this pic is serving as my current 'sig' photo.
19 July 2020
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Post by paulvanb on Aug 15, 2020 15:42:42 GMT -8
Significantly lower fares and fewer weather cancellations/delays through Terrace. Many Rupert-ites fly through Terrace rather than doing the hour+ trip to the Rupert airport. The Terrace airport (YXT) is actually the Terrace-Kitimat airport and serves a considerably larger population than does the YPR airport. It has regular flights with Air Canada, WestJet, & Central Mountain Air. It will also soon have direct flights to Calgary, as well as Vancouver. The LNG-fueled boom is keeping things hoping at YXT.
The justification for a bridge to Digby Island is shall we say non-existent. We need to also remember that Prince Rupert's harbour is second only to Vancouver in importance for international shipping to/from Canada's Pacific rim. Any bridge to Digby would have to have at least as much clearance under it as the Lion's Gate does, or it would have to have a lift span like the Second Narrows rail bridge, which would make it less useful as a road bridge.
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Post by rustyoo7 on Apr 13, 2024 11:52:29 GMT -8
I just noticed that the Digby Island Ferry is currently off Calvert Island and is heading south into Queen Charlotte Sound. It seems like the Fraser Warrior with a barge is now the replacement service to the airport. I assume that the Digby Island Ferry is undergoing some refit maintenance.
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Post by Neil on Apr 13, 2024 21:55:59 GMT -8
I just noticed that the Digby Island Ferry is currently off Calvert Island and is heading south into Queen Charlotte Sound. It seems like the Fraser Warrior with a barge is now the replacement service to the airport. I assume that the Digby Island Ferry is undergoing some refit maintenance. This humble little vessel braved the open Pacific north of Vancouver Island, and is now in safer waters, south of Malcolm Island. I think she's the only ferry on our coast to not have a proper name... her name is simply her description, the Digby Island Ferry. |
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 14, 2024 7:42:16 GMT -8
This humble little vessel braved the open Pacific north of Vancouver Island, and is now in safer waters, south of Malcolm Island. I think she's the only ferry on our coast to not have a proper name... her name is simply her description, the Digby Island Ferry. Well there is another 'ferry' that sorta doesn't have a proper name. But then maybe its not actually a 'ferry'. I'm looking at you BSC. |
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 14, 2024 17:02:47 GMT -8
Looks like the DIF will be gracing Point Hope Maritime in Victoria.
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Post by grk2 on Apr 15, 2024 8:35:43 GMT -8
Confirmed. Now alongside at Point Hope.
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 15, 2024 10:20:40 GMT -8
Confirmed. Now alongside at Point Hope. is there too, according to what I see on Marine Traffic. |
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Post by grk2 on Jun 18, 2024 19:18:53 GMT -8
It is coming up to 2 months that the vessel has been up out of the water at Point Hope That seems a very long time for a refit!
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Post by Neil on Jun 18, 2024 20:07:06 GMT -8
It is coming up to 2 months that the vessel has been up out of the water at Point Hope That seems a very long time for a refit! She's 54 years old... could well be that she needed more than a shave and a haircut. |
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Post by grk2 on Jun 22, 2024 17:22:22 GMT -8
The vessel is on her way home, passing Port Hardy about 19:00 on June 22.
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