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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 17:11:46 GMT -8
Here are a few pictures of the SeaBuses. Burrard Beaver: |
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Post by SolDuc on Jan 26, 2013 17:18:37 GMT -8
Nice photos, AC, especially the ones when they're passing each other!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 18:17:57 GMT -8
Nice photos, AC, especially the ones when they're passing each other! Thank you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 20:48:09 GMT -8
Where is the Burrard Otter? I did not see her tied up at Lonsdale quey maintenance yard for the SeaBus.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 21:27:37 GMT -8
Great articles, Jim. They're an interesting read.
So what's the point to have liferafts for 26 people? Is that still the case today?
I guess they decided that 6 trips an hour wasn't needed, or a 1 1/2 min. turnaround was too quick...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 21:34:15 GMT -8
Where is the Burrard Otter? I did not see her tied up at Lonsdale quey maintenance yard for the SeaBus.
The Otter is currently in service.
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Post by Dane on Jan 26, 2013 22:36:11 GMT -8
The life rafts were removed roughly ten years ago when the life saving system was replaces so I will make the quasi educated guess that is was a Transport Canada thing.
About twenty years ago, maybe a little less, they sped up the SeaBuses as increased ridership was making it difficult to achieve an on time four sailings an hour schedule.
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Post by Ferryman on Jan 27, 2013 7:35:33 GMT -8
The Seabus's have the same evacuation system as most Minor BC Ferries vessels and most (all) Washington State Ferries. This is the ESS (Emergency Slide Station) built by DBC (Dunlop Beaufort Canada). These rafts have capacity for 150 people each in all the cases I've seen them used at least and they have a total of four stations, two on each side. If you scroll up to the top of this page, you can get a pretty good look at where they're stowed on the Burrard Beaver. Sorry for the extra clicking for those of you who use the most recent posts function. I'm old school and still click on each thread individually that I want to read.
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 27, 2013 9:49:08 GMT -8
I guess they decided that 6 trips an hour wasn't needed, or a 1 1/2 min. turnaround was too quick... My understanding is that the idea of 6 trips per hour was killed by excessive wake generated by these vessels when they operated at the speed necessary to achieve that number of trips. The wake problem was particularly troublesome in shoreline areas close to each terminal. I don't know if they ever operated a 6-trips per hour schedule in revenue service, but they obviously did during the sea trials & pre-operational training period. I expect the 90 second turn-around time might have been problematic also. As far as life saving equipment & rafts are concerned, I believe the SeaBuses are not required to have boat/raft accommodation for 400+ persons as one would normally expect. As they are operated only within Vancouver harbour other vessels (including the opposite SeaBus) are available on very short notice to assist with rescue. I think that articles such as I posted are very much worth sharing as they shine light on what 'the thinking was' at the time the project was conceived. I believe, on balance, that the 1970's Vancouver SeaBus 'experiment' is something that has turned out rather well, and at a very modest cost. |
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Post by Mike C on Jan 27, 2013 13:50:28 GMT -8
I guess they decided that 6 trips an hour wasn't needed, or a 1 1/2 min. turnaround was too quick... My understanding is that the idea of 6 trips per hour was killed by excessive wake generated by these vessels when they operated at the speed necessary to achieve that number of trips. The wake problem was particularly troublesome in shoreline areas close to each terminal. I don't know if they ever operated a 6-trips per hour schedule in revenue service, but they obviously did during the sea trials & pre-operational training period. I expect the 90 second turn-around time might have been problematic also. As far as life saving equipment & rafts are concerned, I believe the SeaBuses are not required to have boat/raft accommodation for 400+ persons as one would normally expect. As they are operated only within Vancouver harbour other vessels (including the opposite SeaBus) are available on very short notice to assist with rescue. I think that articles such as I posted are very much worth sharing as they shine light on what 'the thinking was' at the time the project was conceived. I believe, on balance, that the 1970's Vancouver SeaBus 'experiment' is something that has turned out rather well, and at a very modest cost. The ten-minute frequency/7 min crossing is operated whenever a North Shore Bridge, notably the Lions Gate, shuts down. In this event, buses that typically run over the bridges are routed to the SeaBus terminals on either side and passengers are ferried across the water. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 19:19:46 GMT -8
In my opinion, Translink should really change the Frequency of the SeaBus.
The should be schedule from September 3rd unlit May long week.
Monday to Friday: 10 minutes service: 6:02 am unlit 9:32 am.
15 minutes service: 9:30 am to 2:32 pm
10 minute service: 2:30 pm to 6:32 pm.
15 minute service: 6:32 pm to 9:02 pm.
30 minute service: 9:02 pm to 1:22 am.
Saturday and Sunday: 30 minute service 6:16 am to 8:02 am.
15 minutes service: 8:02 am to 10:32 am.
10 minute service: 10:32 am to 6:02 pm.
15 minutes service: 6:02 pm to 10:30 pm.
30 minute service 10:32 pm to 12:32 am.
The should be schedule from May long week unlit September 3rd.
Monday to Friday: 10 minutes service: 6:02 am to 8:32 pm.
15 minute service: 8:30 pm to 11:02 pm.
30 minute service: 11:00 pm to 1:22 am.
Saturday and Sunday: 15 minutes service: 6:02 am to 10:32 am.
10 minute service: 10:32 am to 8:02 pm.
15 minutes service: 8:02 pm to 11:32 pm.
30 minute service:11:32 pm to 2:30 am
Take away the Bus that come over the Lions Gate Bridge and Ironworkers memorial bridge because it would make the North Shore schedule for the Bus better.
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Post by Kahloke on Feb 24, 2013 20:14:26 GMT -8
I finally got around to taking the SeaBus for the first time this past weekend when I was in Vancouver. I have to say, it's very efficient. Here are some of my photos: Burrard Pacific Breeze - the vessel I rode on for both trips  Departing the Downtown Terminus on BPB  A spartan but functional passenger cabin on BPB  Burrard Otter approaching Lonsdale Quay  Burrard Beaver sporting the current Translink livery  departing Lonsdale Quay for the return trip back to the city  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 15:32:30 GMT -8
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Post by Koastal Karl on Feb 27, 2013 20:21:03 GMT -8
I was on the Burrard Pacific Breeze Sunday evening as I was in Vancouver I decided to take a trip from Lonsdale over to Waterfront and back. I like the Burrard Pacific Breeze. The interior is nice and the seats are more comfortable than the other ones. Only thing I dont like is the windows at each end are too high and you cant see out when sitting down at each ends without getting up. What happened to third Seabus??? Did they get rid of one?
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Post by Dane on Feb 27, 2013 23:10:42 GMT -8
All three are photographed in this post within the last week, so no they didn't get rid of one.
The higher Windows are a TC regulation, apparently.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Mar 6, 2013 18:52:34 GMT -8
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Post by Cable Cassidy on Apr 14, 2013 17:00:59 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2013 19:38:59 GMT -8
I was running harbour tugs when the Sea Buses were built and started service. I believe that the original color was chosen with safety in mind. With the strobe light at night and the high viz color it was easy to keep track of them with so much other traffic on the move. On a grey day (fog or rain) the orange color was easy to pick out as they generally crossed the tracks of the majority of the traffic. The new color scheme looks good on a bus but I'm not sure it is a good thing on the water.(I know .... modern seamen rely on electronics but I prefer to look out the window rather than at a screen!)
When they first started running, there were many more barge tie ups around the harbour and a marina at the foot of Lonsdale and their wake/wash was quite intense and somewhat destructive. When towing,on a smallish tug with a barge we often had to almost stop to avoid breaking our towing gear.It seems that by reducing the speed and re-aligning their routes that the problem was greatly improved.
The Sea Bus system is amazing and it's a shame that the service never expanded as it was originally envisioned.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Apr 28, 2013 15:12:09 GMT -8
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Post by SolDuc on Apr 28, 2013 16:03:01 GMT -8
Nice shots, Awesome cheese!
Let me guess... The first batch was taken from Canada Place and the second one from the small "pier 7" float, right?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Apr 28, 2013 16:10:03 GMT -8
Nice shots, Awesome cheese! Let me guess... The first batch was taken from Canada Place and the second one from the small "pier 7" float, right? Yep. The second set is from burrard pier, and couple from Lonsdale Quay. |
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on May 1, 2013 13:50:20 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 5, 2013 17:37:53 GMT -8
Seabus: Photos are from a 1980s era coffee-table book “Vancouver & British Columbia” which appears to be a gift-book aimed at tourists to Vancouver and BC. Not much is noted in the book regarding publisher info. “Coombie Books” from 1987, with illustrations & text by “Colour Library Books Ltd.” No photo credits mentioned. I purchased this book for $2 at our local Rotary club sale, for the very purpose of posting these photos here, to show a bit from that era.   |
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jul 2, 2013 16:32:04 GMT -8
Here are some photos of the 1977 sister passing each other.  Burrard Beaver with the Burrard Otter by Awesome cheese, on Flickr  Burrard Beaver with the Burrard Otter by Awesome cheese, on Flickr Burrard Otter:  Burrard Otter by Awesome cheese, on Flickr Burrard Beaver;  Burrard Beaver by Awesome cheese, on Flickr  Burrard Beaver by Awesome cheese, on Flickr  Burrard Beaver by Awesome cheese, on Flickr  Burrard Beaver by Awesome cheese, on Flickr All SeaBus in one photo:  Burrard Beaver, Burrard Otter with the Burrard Pacific Breeze by Awesome cheese, on Flickr Burrard Otter with the Burrard Pacific Breeze:  Burrard Otter with the Burrard Pacific Breeze by Awesome cheese, on Flickr |
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 16, 2013 8:11:19 GMT -8
Vancouver 'SeaBus' Burrard Beaver heading for North Van @ Lonsdale Quay - Lions Gate Bridge in background - 3 July 2013. This photo was shot from her 1977 twin the Burrard Otter.  photo © WCK-JST by Wett Coast, on Flickr |
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