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Post by glasseye on Jul 25, 2010 18:26:25 GMT -8
The long & winding road, that leads to the Norad. Does BCF take any measures to ensure that no cars are ever stopped on the railway tracks as a result of being held up during loading? It would not be a good thing to be stuck on that crossing if CN tries to use it.... |
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Post by lmtengs on Jul 25, 2010 19:18:30 GMT -8
The long & winding road, that leads to the Norad. Does BCF take any measures to ensure that no cars are ever stopped on the railway tracks as a result of being held up during loading? It would not be a good thing to be stuck on that crossing if CN tries to use it.... There's not really any need. The only trains that ever go that far down the line are the Via trains, and even the Vias only go down that way once in awhile. The only things that a train might need to do down there are visit the old, abandoned CN station, or visit the old, abandoned CN Diesel Shops. There's also a seldom used railyard down there, and I emphasize the words 'seldom' and 'used'... If an train ever did roll by, of course traffic would have to stop, but they never line cars up right there, and I'm thinking that most drivers are smart enough to not stop on the tracks. |
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Post by DENelson83 on Jul 27, 2010 13:59:37 GMT -8
How interesting that the Prince Rupert ferry terminal is the only one in the BC Ferries system where you have to cross a railway immediately before boarding the ferry.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 27, 2010 14:19:06 GMT -8
How interesting that the Prince Rupert ferry terminal is the only one in the BC Ferries system where you have to cross a railway immediately before boarding the ferry. Yeah, it's an interesting quirk, but understandable once you consider the entire situation: - ferry terminal is used a max of 1.5 times per day in summer, and less in off-season. - rail line is used very seldomly, as this is just end-of-track. - VIA rail and BCF share a terminal, so this makes it plausible that there is communication between the 2, re when that old track is used by a train. Very different than if there was a railway track beside a high-use ferry terminal. ps: same situation at the Alaska terminal, next door. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 27, 2010 19:47:48 GMT -8
Skidegate Landing terminal, in Haida Gwaii. - view from the water  - the Northern style floating berth with those red stop-signs.  - what it's like to drive a trailer onto the NorAd. Skidegate is easy, because it's straight.   |
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 27, 2010 20:59:45 GMT -8
How interesting that the Prince Rupert ferry terminal is the only one in the BC Ferries system where you have to cross a railway immediately before boarding the ferry. Yeah, it's an interesting quirk, but understandable once you consider the entire situation: - ferry terminal is used a max of 1.5 times per day in summer, and less in off-season. - rail line is used very seldomly, as this is just end-of-track. - VIA rail and BCF share a terminal, so this makes it plausible that there is communication between the 2, re when that old track is used by a train. Very different than if there was a railway track beside a high-use ferry terminal. ps: same situation at the Alaska terminal, next door. I gather that the rail line there sees an average of 4 to 6 train movements per day as some freight does move into the down town Rupert yards, some freight traffic moves to and from the Aqua Train terminal just north of the BCFS terminal, and of course there is also Via's trains. In addition to that CN traffic to the nearby Fairview container terminal brings train movements past both ferry terminals as container flat cars are being marshalled into the container terminal yards. That is what I saw on May 9th 2009 as seen in the photo below. As container traffic to Rupert is expected to grow substantially I would expect rail movements by the ferry terminals to become more frequent. Coal & grain traffic to Rupert never comes this far, however. The end of the line for that traffic is at Ridley Island.  PS: I think at least one WSF terminal has a fairly busy BNSF line going right by the terminal entrance. |
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 28, 2010 0:36:55 GMT -8
You are correct JST To the 3 lanes of holding though at Edmonds, to load the boat, you cross the BNSF line.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 26, 2010 18:52:39 GMT -8
There is a row of advertising banners in the hallway leading to foot-passenger Berth #5 at Tsawwassen Terminal. Here's one of them, and it's about a company that did work at some other terminals:  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 20, 2010 12:32:20 GMT -8
Here is a new thread for photos of North & Mid Coast terminals of BC Ferries, and discussion related to those photos.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 27, 2010 14:12:39 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 6, 2010 21:03:21 GMT -8
First volley of a bunch of old books I've picked up recently at used bookstores The Haunted Bookshop and Beacon Books in Sidney... Found Here: www.ferrypicsbygraham.fotopic.net/c1247705_469.html
From "The Colour of British Columbia" Photographs and text by Bill Brooks - Copyright © 1980 by Bill Brooks
www.ferrypicsbygraham.fotopic.net/p49070087.html
Kelsey Bay with Queen of Prince Rupert and original Island Princess (now North Island Princess) in the distance at left. Note what looks like a BC Ferries parade float on the road in the foreground at left.
(One pic from "From Frontier to Freeway" Queen's Printer for British Columbia © Victoria, 1986 [No author or photographer noted]
www.ferrypicsbygraham.fotopic.net/p49070082.html
Queen of Prince Rupert at Bear Cove, Port Hardy.)
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 20, 2011 20:44:22 GMT -8
In regards to the new terminal at Klemtu I had some information in an email from a friend...
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 25, 2011 12:32:05 GMT -8
There's a photo of the Kelsey Bay site (presumably taken some time in the past 30 years) on the WMG website: www.seaspan.com/photos.htm- scroll down to "log towing" and it's the first picture (#1). You can see the old ferry terminal structure (bottom part of the picture) and the Cardena's hull is there too as one of the block-ships. |
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Post by WettCoast on Feb 11, 2011 20:18:37 GMT -8
Rupert Terminal 1978 as viewed over the stern of the QPR. Click on the photo to open a high-res version in a new window. Photo © JST - 3 May 1978
From my Flickr SiteNote the ship is docked in what is now called the Alaska slip. BCF did not build their own berth until a few years later. Also note the old BCF Terminal which was destroyed by fire in the early 1980's. That design of buildings was fairly common at the smaller BCF terminals at that time. |
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Post by lmtengs on Feb 11, 2011 20:27:34 GMT -8
A building very similar to that is still in place at Powell River's Westview Terminal.
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Post by WettCoast on Mar 16, 2011 6:39:25 GMT -8
New Klemtu Terminal Update - I am informed that the construction is almost complete. The NorAd has already successfully completed docking trials. The Northern Expedition is to take over the North Coast routes around about April 20th. Work at Klemtu has to be finished by that time. Update 16:45 March 16: Looks like there is a fair bit of work still to be done. 
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 16, 2011 19:11:18 GMT -8
Klemtu, under construction: New Klemtu Terminal Update - I am informed that the construction is almost complete. The NorAd has already successfully completed docking trials. The Northern Expedition is to take over the North Coast routes around about April 20th. Work at Klemtu has to be finished by that time. Update 16:45 March 16: Looks like there is a fair bit of work still to be done. |
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Post by lmtengs on Mar 16, 2011 20:15:42 GMT -8
Great photo, thanks for posting it!  The berth ramp looks abnormally wide, like it could hold three lanes of vehicle traffic. Why would this be needed up north? (use the truck at the upper end of the ramp for size scale) |
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Post by DENelson83 on Mar 16, 2011 20:58:28 GMT -8
The berth ramp looks abnormally wide, like it could hold three lanes of vehicle traffic. Why would this be needed up north? Maybe it takes some design lessons from the WSF Fauntleroy terminal. |
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Post by Kahloke on Mar 16, 2011 21:07:40 GMT -8
The berth ramp looks abnormally wide, like it could hold three lanes of vehicle traffic. Why would this be needed up north? Maybe it takes some design lessons from the WSF Fauntleroy terminal. Why the analogy to the Fauntleroy Terminal? What makes that one stick out any more than other WSF terminals? |
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Post by DENelson83 on Mar 16, 2011 21:15:20 GMT -8
It's the only one I can think of that has a marshaling area that juts out over the sea.
I don't think its width is meant to allow cars to not have to park on the slope (think Village Bay).
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Post by WettCoast on Mar 16, 2011 21:34:24 GMT -8
Perhaps the WSF Terminal in question is Port Townsend? Here is another look at the new Klemtu terminal. This should be easy for both the NorAd & NorEx to get in & out of. A couple of coves of into the distance is where downtown Klemtu is located.  |
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Post by Kahloke on Mar 16, 2011 21:35:44 GMT -8
It's the only one I can think of that has a marshaling area that juts out over the sea. I don't think its width is meant to allow cars to not have to park on the slope (think Village Bay). Ahh, got it. Actually several WSF terminals have marshaling areas built out over water, so Fauntleroy is in good company. Fauntleroy  |
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Post by mrdot on Mar 16, 2011 21:53:07 GMT -8
:)nice pics. as you are chugging down Princess Royal channel, or have they dumped this politically incorect place name yet! anyways the nice rust streaks are Hahn's answer to the Washington state ferry look, but at least WSF have maintained their evergreen look! :-Xmrdot.
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 10, 2011 12:26:35 GMT -8
 BCF's Fairview (Prince Rupert) Terminal with the Queen of the North at berth & the Queen of Prince Rupert waiting in the harbour - early morning, 28 June 1989 photo © JST - Kodachrome - VueScan hosted on Flickr |
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