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MV Hyak
May 15, 2007 19:22:00 GMT -8
Post by SS San Mateo on May 15, 2007 19:22:00 GMT -8
So, Zman, I'd be very surprised if you didn't keep the Kaleetan all summer... the Evergreen wouldn't come anywhere close to making it work in Bremerton, and the Wally is occupied on a higher-capacity route. The fact that the Evergreen State's passenger capacity is low would pretty well make heving her on the Bremerton a non-option unless absolutely necessary. You'd probably end up with riots from passengers being left behind. BTW, is the work on the Tacoma contingent on the Elwha returning to service at the scheduled time? |
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MV Hyak
May 15, 2007 20:55:22 GMT -8
Post by In Washington on May 15, 2007 20:55:22 GMT -8
You said it. We are screwed. No third boat plans and nothing really (suitable) available even if we entertained the plan.
Unfortunately many commuters will be trying the new Narrows Bridge in August, along with the tolls. Taking the Tacoma out in the Summer is not the best plan but if it needs it what can we do? Pray another Jumbo or MKII doesn't go down.
The Elwha is on the list to go to the Islands 6/24. We'll see!
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MV Hyak
May 15, 2007 21:21:41 GMT -8
Post by zman on May 15, 2007 21:21:41 GMT -8
Umm, Ouch?! Now that the WALLA WALLA is gone, the 6:20 from Bremerton is back to having overloads...only six this morning. Back to the whole "sealth" deal...if we had the SEALTH, that would mean that the busiest commuter sailings on the No 1 vessel would leave about 40-70 vehicles on the dock. That would also mean that some of the mid-day trips would have around 5 or 10 vehicles left.  Oh yeah, I totally agree that anybody up in the San Juans could get more vehicles onto the Supers than Bremerton. Many times, there could easily be 6 or 7 more spots available. (if only some crew could pay more attention)  |
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MV Hyak
May 15, 2007 21:28:55 GMT -8
Post by Political Incorrectness on May 15, 2007 21:28:55 GMT -8
Crew members in the San Juans love to squeeze em as tight as the steelys. In fact, there was a story on the web one time of packing a forth lane of cars in the center of the super vessel.
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MV Hyak
May 16, 2007 6:31:24 GMT -8
Post by Barnacle on May 16, 2007 6:31:24 GMT -8
That would take some doing... and a lot of Volkswagens, Honda Civics, motorcycles, unicycles... ;D
In Washington, I've been giving the contingency issue of "no Elwha" a thought for a while now...
...the best plan I've been able to come up with so far is to leave the Hyak in the Elwha's #3 slot, and drop the Evergreen into the #5 slot pending the Elwha's arrival, since that mid-day tie-up would give the Evergreen a chance to catch up on her schedule and start fresh in the afternoon. Also, it would be a better choice of vessel for the weekend graveyard boat since the traffic really doesn't require a Super at that time of night anyway.
Sound feasible?
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MV Hyak
May 16, 2007 10:25:06 GMT -8
Post by In Washington on May 16, 2007 10:25:06 GMT -8
It does. Unfortuanately it might happen. I know taht we South Sounders can't take many more hits as far as giving anything up and you guys are stretched thin.
Mr. W and Ms. M in Anacortes probably are scrambling through the same scenarios as we speak. Everyday and new "update" seems to come out.
Sealth is running late at DCI which pushes back the Kitsap/Kittitas swap.
It might be a stressful Summer!
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MV Hyak
May 16, 2007 17:26:52 GMT -8
Post by zman on May 16, 2007 17:26:52 GMT -8
I guess that I do not have a whole lot to complain about...I dont need to drive on the boat, and I can just go down to the car deck to get some peace and quiet on those crowded sailings. Maybe, WSF wants to encourage people to give up driving on the Bremerton route...After all, in the time that it takes for a round trip, Bainbridge could almost complete two round trips...with a lot more traffic on both of them. |
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MV Hyak
May 16, 2007 21:27:57 GMT -8
Post by Barnacle on May 16, 2007 21:27:57 GMT -8
I may swing by and chat with Ms. M or Mr. W about that idea... it seems like the simplest way to do it from the viewpoint of the wet end of the dock. We won't even speculate about the inevitable July 4th breakdown...  |
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MV Hyak
May 17, 2007 7:30:35 GMT -8
Post by In Washington on May 17, 2007 7:30:35 GMT -8
For the folks interested in the Bremerton run:
The Walla Walla will replace the Kaleetan which in turn will replace the Kitsap sometime this weekend. This won't be forever but it will give some relief for the time period it is in effect.
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MV Hyak
May 17, 2007 10:05:45 GMT -8
Post by hergfest on May 17, 2007 10:05:45 GMT -8
Nevermind...
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MV Hyak
May 17, 2007 10:54:35 GMT -8
Post by SS San Mateo on May 17, 2007 10:54:35 GMT -8
So the Kaleetan is going to Vashon? Never seen a Super on the Vashon run before. I'm assuming it will be the Kitsap that will be going over to Vashon (probably to replace the Tillikum while she goes in for maintenance/inspection (COI expires 5/23)). The Kaleetan has been on the Vashon run at least twice. The first time (which I think was the very first time a super was on the Vashon route) was in the very late 70's/very early 80's when there was a massive boat shuffling after both the Rhododendron and Evergreen State went down on the same day (this was when WSF was using regular ferries on the Hood Canal route after they were ordered to withdraw the modified barges after a bad accident). The last time was in 1995 when she replaced the Issaquah during maintenance. The Elwha made an appearance just before the Memorial Day weekend in 1989 (it was just for 2-3 days). The Hyak and/or Yakima have been there as well. |
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MV Hyak
May 17, 2007 11:23:48 GMT -8
Post by FNS on May 17, 2007 11:23:48 GMT -8
Back a while ago, the Fauntleroy dock had a major refit and was closed for about a month or two. WSF did a split route. The QUINAULT and the KLAHOWYA did the Seattle-Southworth run and a Super and an "ISSAQUAH" did the Seattle-Vashon run. The RHODY did the shuttle between Southworth and Vashon and a larger ferry was down at Tahlequah.
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MV Hyak
May 17, 2007 11:56:16 GMT -8
Post by SS San Mateo on May 17, 2007 11:56:16 GMT -8
Back a while ago, the Fauntleroy dock had a major refit and was closed for about a month or two. WSF did a split route. The QUINAULT and the KLAHOWYA did the Seattle-Southworth run and a Super and an "ISSAQUAH" did the Seattle-Vashon run. The RHODY did the shuttle between Southworth and Vashon and a larger ferry was down at Tahlequah. When was this? I know it wasn't in 2002 (there were 3 Issaquah 130 vessels operating between Seattle & Vashon, and the Rhody was operating between Vashon and Southworth as a passenger-only ferry since the Southwork dock was closed as well). I don't think it could've been in the early 80's (unless the Rhody had been modified to fit the docks). |
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MV Hyak
May 17, 2007 17:10:34 GMT -8
Post by FNS on May 17, 2007 17:10:34 GMT -8
Back a while ago, the Fauntleroy dock had a major refit and was closed for about a couple of weeks or so. WSF did a split route. The QUINAULT and the KLAHOWYA did the Seattle-Southworth run and a Super and an "ISSAQUAH" did the Seattle-Vashon run. The RHODY did the shuttle between Southworth and Vashon and a larger ferry was down at Tahlequah. When was this? I know it wasn't in 2002 (there were 3 Issaquah 130 vessels operating between Seattle & Vashon, and the Rhody was operating between Vashon and Southworth as a passenger-only ferry since the Southwork dock was closed as well). I don't think it could've been in the early 80's (unless the Rhody had been modified to fit the docks). Just dug up a trip diary. This was in 1993. The time period was between October 9 to 24, 1993. The Fauntleroy dock was being worked on. The KALEETAN and ISSAQUAH were on the Seattle-Vashon run, KLAHOWYA and QUINAULT on the Seattle-Southworth run, RHODODENDRON on the Southworth-Vashon shuttle, and the ILLAHEE was down at Tahlequah. This was nine years after the RHODY got her bows fixed and about her second year of service on the Tahlequah run (just after her extreme makeover). I took a morning round trip to Southworth from Seattle aboard the QUINAULT and an afternoon round trip to Vashon aboard the KALEETAN, both on October 9, 1993. Fun trips! |
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MV Hyak
Jun 9, 2007 13:18:39 GMT -8
Post by SS Shasta on Jun 9, 2007 13:18:39 GMT -8
I noticed that MV Hyak had some mechanical problems in the Islands this morning. Has she been in the yards for maintenance and upkeep this year? It seems like she has been running most of the time. I have sort of lost track of which vessels have been in for their annual yard period and which have not!  |
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MV Hyak
Jun 9, 2007 14:21:57 GMT -8
Post by old_wsf_fan on Jun 9, 2007 14:21:57 GMT -8
Could it be the dreaded drive motor problem again? Looks like these drive motors have about a 40 year life span.
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MV Hyak
Jun 9, 2007 16:13:14 GMT -8
Post by hergfest on Jun 9, 2007 16:13:14 GMT -8
The bulletin from this morning did mention a drive motor problem, they pulled it when she went back into service. Looks like they got her running in a hour, as she is a hour late all day.
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MV Hyak
Jun 9, 2007 22:09:48 GMT -8
Post by Barnacle on Jun 9, 2007 22:09:48 GMT -8
Eh, we had it down to about a half-hour by the end of my shift. There were a couple of loose motor brushes that were making a hellacious squealing noise, so they shut down, tracked 'em, and removed the offenders. They'll probably be installing replacements tonight.
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MV Hyak
Jun 10, 2007 16:52:19 GMT -8
Post by zman on Jun 10, 2007 16:52:19 GMT -8
Didn't WSF just replace the drive motors of the HYAK in Feb/March?
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MV Hyak
Jun 10, 2007 19:51:05 GMT -8
Post by Barnacle on Jun 10, 2007 19:51:05 GMT -8
No. The drive motors in the Supers are all original equipment.
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MV Hyak
Jul 9, 2007 10:29:06 GMT -8
Post by SS Shasta on Jul 9, 2007 10:29:06 GMT -8
Looks like it is MV Hyak's turn for some TLC. She is having mechanical problems in the Islands this morning and is running at 1/2 power  . |
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MV Hyak
Jul 9, 2007 11:29:14 GMT -8
Post by Barnacle on Jul 9, 2007 11:29:14 GMT -8
Half power isn't too big of a deal... with the three-hour tie up in the middle of her schedule during the week, she'll recover and be on time at 5:05 (and probably back on full power by then too).
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MV Hyak
Jul 9, 2007 19:30:02 GMT -8
Post by old_wsf_fan on Jul 9, 2007 19:30:02 GMT -8
Exactly what is running on half-power mean? Is one or two of the diesel engines down or does it have to do with the electric drive motors or the generators?
Apparently it can't be too bad as this sort of thing seems to happen on occasion and it does not require the vessel to be removed from service.
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MV Hyak
Jul 9, 2007 20:21:20 GMT -8
Post by Barnacle on Jul 9, 2007 20:21:20 GMT -8
It can mean any of those, actually. It can mean:
--All four engines running but for one reason or another only two are feeding electricity to the drive motors via their generators;
--one or two engines shut down, same feed;
--one drive motor or the other is tripped off-line. This is a go-home-only mode, of course, and I'd personally be hesitant to do it without a tug alongside.
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MV Hyak
Oct 31, 2007 10:32:46 GMT -8
Post by SS Shasta on Oct 31, 2007 10:32:46 GMT -8
The article in the KITSAP SUN about saving the Steel Electric "tops" also mentions a recommendation to extend the service life of MV Hyak by 20 years or more. This sounds like a very good idea. Certainly MV Hyak is large enough to serve most routes and has a better service record than some of her sisters. I notice that she is scheduled for major yard work this winter. She recently received rebuilt engines and is now ADA compliant. Her cabin deck likely should be updated. What more would be needed to bring her up to date?
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