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Post by Barnacle on Oct 30, 2010 11:24:04 GMT -8
Actually the Evergreen State is the regular inter-island boat. Kahloke, the Sidney terminal is the design that inspired WSF to abandon the cable-and-counterbalance design for once and for all. I think thus far only Bainbridge #2 and Eagle Harbor 'B' are hydraulic ramps. When terminals get redesigned in the future, look for this change. They have numerous advantages--infinite adjustability, and the ability to do so under a full load.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Nov 9, 2010 22:18:33 GMT -8
Awesome photos! I sure would love to take a trip on the Evergreen State! She looks like the classic boat of WSF. The Super's are really neat ships! I really like those ones but I have only ever been on the Elwha of that class.
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Post by BreannaF on Nov 10, 2010 0:42:04 GMT -8
Awesome photos! I sure would love to take a trip on the Evergreen State! She looks like the classic boat of WSF. The Super's are really neat ships! I really like those ones but I have only ever been on the Elwha of that class. The Evergreen State Class boats are really what I consider to be a "ferry-shaped" boat. In fact, the logo of a picture of a ferry that WSF used for so many years looks, in fact, like the front view of the Evergreen State. One thing that makes that ferry special to me is that you can still get on it today, and if you look at it just right, it is so easy to imagine that you are riding around in the mid-1960's instead of 2010. While it has, of course, been updated to all the latest standards, if you look at the shape of the boat, at the ceilings, at a lot of the fixtures, and so on, you really could picture yourself being in an earlier time. I suppose you could compare it to driving around in a newly-painted version of the car your folks drove when you were growing up. Only this is the ferry version of that. And just maybe, the fact that the San Juans (being the slow-moving and rural place that it is) just provides the perfect background for this daydream. Unless you happen upon a ride on the Rhododendron, and that would be a short trip, then a ride on the Evergreen State will be as close as you can currently get to a ride into the past. And, really, a long weekend in the San Juans should be on anybody's short list of things to do around here, no?
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 10, 2010 5:02:17 GMT -8
The Evergreen State Class boats are really what I consider to be a "ferry-shaped" boat. In fact, the logo of a picture of a ferry that WSF used for so many years looks, in fact, like the front view of the Evergreen State. Sadly, that logo disappeared around 1968. WSF didn't really have another logo until the appearance of the Flying 'T' in 1978, followed by the half-silhouette of the Steel-Electric in 1979. That was on the schedules until 1992 when the 'T' reappeared, replaced again by a modernized and stylized version of the Steel-E drawing (but of a Jumbo) in 1994. The Jumbo logo lasted until Spring 2002, when the Steel-Electric logo returned. I don't know how long it will be before someone in power notices that the Steel-Electrics haven't looked like that for 25 years... or for that matter, is a reminder that the boats aren't even around any more.
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Post by rusty on Nov 10, 2010 8:46:21 GMT -8
....the Steel-Electrics .... the boats aren't even around any more.
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Post by Kahloke on Dec 18, 2010 14:26:09 GMT -8
Kam's pictures of Evergreen from his recent trip. After arriving at Friday Harbour it was time to get back in line and wait for the Evergreen State. MV Evergreen State & MV Elwha IMG_2275 by Kam's World, on Flickr She arrived and docked at the secondary birth that has only a foot passenger ramp. The foot passengers disembarked while the vehicles had to wait for the Elwha to vacate the main birth and the Evergreen State moved over. MV Evergreen State & MV Elwha IMG_2280 by Kam's World, on Flickr MV Evergreen State & MV Elwha IMG_2283 by Kam's World, on Flickr Once on board the Evergreen State more ship exploring began! I was very impressed with how well kept she was. Everything was very clean, a totally different feel than the Elwha. MV Evergreen State IMG_2294 by Kam's World, on Flickr MV Evergreen State IMG_2296 by Kam's World, on Flickr MV Evergreen State IMG_2299 by Kam's World, on Flickr MV Evergreen State IMG_2300 by Kam's World, on Flickr MV Evergreen State IMG_2301 by Kam's World, on Flickr MV Evergreen State IMG_2311 by Kam's World, on Flickr MV Evergreen State IMG_2304 by Kam's World, on Flickr MV Evergreen State IMG_2308 by Kam's World, on Flickr MV Evergreen State IMG_2312 by Kam's World, on Flickr MV Evergreen State IMG_2314 by Kam's World, on Flickr Soon after the Elwha departed the Evergreen State pulled in. MV Evergreen State IMG_2394 by Kam's World, on Flickr After loading at Shaw she headed across the channel to pick us and one other car up at Orcas. MV Evergreen State IMG_2393 by Kam's World, on Flickr MV Evergreen State IMG_2403 by Kam's World, on Flickr MV Evergreen State IMG_2415 by Kam's World, on Flickr MV Evergreen State IMG_2416 by Kam's World, on Flickr
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Post by Koastal Karl on Dec 18, 2010 15:10:56 GMT -8
I really would like to get on this boat sometime! Never been on her!
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Post by Koastal Karl on Dec 28, 2010 11:56:53 GMT -8
Is the Evergreen State in the San Jauns during the summer??? Where is the Sealth during the summer??? Those are two ships I would love to take a trip on so I was hoping maybe this summer or spring or whenever I can afford an overnight stay seeing it's so hard to do right now without staying over especially coming from Vancouver Island.
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Post by northwesterner on Dec 28, 2010 12:05:04 GMT -8
Usually, yes. Sealth generally relieves the Tillikum and Klahowya at F-V-S so they can go into the yard during the summer.
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Post by Kahloke on Dec 28, 2010 13:01:11 GMT -8
Is the Evergreen State in the San Jauns during the summer??? Where is the Sealth during the summer??? Those are two ships I would love to take a trip on so I was hoping maybe this summer or spring or whenever I can afford an overnight stay seeing it's so hard to do right now without staying over especially coming from Vancouver Island. If you ever want to see the vessel deployment schedule, go here: www.wsdot.wa.gov/ferries/serviceClick on the Maintenance, Drydock, Inspection Needs and Service Impacts pdf. Currently, it only shows vessel assignments up through the first week of April, but that visible calendar gets adjusted as we move through the year. Right now, Evergreen is operating Inter Island until mid February or so. Then it goes into Eagle Harbor until about mid March when it returns back to inter-island duty. Sealth is currently on the Anacortes-San Juan Islands route until the end of this week. When the Winter Schedule starts next week, Sealth will be re-deployed to Point Defiance for a few weeks while Rhododendron is out for maintenance. Then Sealth moves back to Anacortes. Then, when Evergreen is out for maintenance, Sealth will fill in as the inter-island ferry, returning back to Anacortes afterwards. Sealth doesn't really have a permanent assignment. She gets moved around to fill in for other vessels as needed, but is often on the Anacortes-San Juan Islands Route, the Inter-Island Route, or at Vashon, on either end of the island, as needed.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Mar 25, 2011 20:46:43 GMT -8
How come the Evergreen State makes a run to Anacortes on Sundays at 2:15pm but there no return sailing on her from Anacortes??? This for the Spring schedule.
4 2:15 Friday Harbour Sails Sunday only. Also sails on Monday May 30. ----- ----- 3:05 Lopez Sails Sunday only. Also sails on Monday May 30. 3:55 Anacortes Sails Sunday only. Also sails on Monday May 30. Indicates an arrival time
Her next sailing is 5:45pm from Friday Harbour. Does she deadhead back to Friday Harbour??? hmm maybe I will have to do a trip on a Sunday. Alot easier than trying to get on the interisland route.
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Post by Barnacle on Mar 25, 2011 22:01:28 GMT -8
How come the Evergreen State makes a run to Anacortes on Sundays at 2:15pm but there no return sailing on her from Anacortes??? This for the Spring schedule. 4 2:15 Friday Harbour Sails Sunday only. Also sails on Monday May 30. ----- 3:05 Lopez Sails Sunday only. Also sails on Monday May 30. 3:55 Anacortes Sails Sunday only. Also sails on Monday May 30. Indicates an arrival time Her next sailing is 5:45pm from Friday Harbour. Does she deadhead back to Friday Harbour??? hmm maybe I will have to do a trip on a Sunday. Alot easier than trying to get on the interisland route. Looking at the schedule, it would appear that she does indeed deadhead back to Friday Harbor. (No 'u' on our side of the line. ) Evidently the interisland traffic on that westbound trip for Sunday afternoon doesn't justify making the trip, whereas on Sunday afternoons in Spring, bleeding 87-95 cars out of Friday Harbor and Lopez can be TREMENDOUSLY useful. I disagree on principle with deadhead trips, but the ol' Evergreen takes 15 minutes more than the "big" boats to get to FH, so they need to deadhead just to get back on schedule (though I have also seen Agents' Discretion sailings fling about 30 or so cars from Anacortes onto the deadhead sailing if the lot in ANA is too deep).
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Post by northwesterner on Mar 28, 2011 17:25:39 GMT -8
Of course, the extra fifteen minutes to Friday Harbor used to be the "normal" travel time back when the Evergreen State was frequently assigned to Anacortes-FH non-stop trips.
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Post by SS Shasta on Jul 7, 2011 8:32:41 GMT -8
What's happening with the E-State? She is now scheduled for maintenance until mid-August at the Foss Shipyards.
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 7, 2011 13:04:26 GMT -8
I've only heard scuttle, so nothing terribly reliable.
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Post by zargoman on Jul 7, 2011 23:12:18 GMT -8
If the Sealth isn't needed elsewhere, I don't see why they wouldn't want her cruising the islands during the summer. She has some great car deck space (tall and wide) and she is faster and she is prettier inside. (Although, I personally would much rather be on the Evergreen. I love the historical part of the boat. There's a lot of stuff onboard that just isn't made anymore)
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 8, 2011 4:26:32 GMT -8
If the Sealth isn't needed elsewhere, I don't see why they wouldn't want her cruising the islands during the summer. She was scheduled to do the relief circuit at Vashon. "Prettier" is a matter of opinion. Personally, I first thought the floor pattern was extremely eye-watering. Such as? What have I missed?
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 8, 2011 9:31:09 GMT -8
I really want to get on the Evergreen State! WSF makes it so difficult with the the schedule from Sidney though to do it in a day unless you drive down from Vancouver. I have been on the Sealth. She's a nice boat but I want to go on a classic like the Evergreen State! Maybe in August when she is back in service or maybe the Fall as I want to get down to see the Salish and Chetzy too!
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Post by Kahloke on Jul 8, 2011 9:48:02 GMT -8
I really want to get on the Evergreen State! WSF makes it so difficult with the the schedule from Sidney though to do it in a day unless you drive down from Vancouver. I have been on the Sealth. She's a nice boat but I want to go on a classic like the Evergreen State! Maybe in August when she is back in service or maybe the Fall as I want to get down to see the Salish and Chetzy too! You should be able to get on the E-State late this summer or in the fall. If you want to wait until Fall, Elwha is scheduled to be back on the International run on the fall schedule (at least according to the schedule proposal), and Evergreen will be the inter-island ferry, so maybe you could get on both of those vessels.
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Post by zargoman on Jul 9, 2011 8:47:06 GMT -8
"Prettier" is a matter of opinion. Personally, I first thought the floor pattern was extremely eye-watering. Such as? What have I missed? The last time I was onboard, there were several old style cabin chairs. The entire galley area looks like it's been around for a while. Also, the "curbing" on the car deck...seems like pipes that are welded together. I just get the feeling that it's an older boat by walking around. How's the wheelhouse visibility? Those windows look rather small in contrast with the Klahowya and Tillkum. As for the floor on the Sealth, not only will it water your eyes, it'll make ya dizzy if you look down when you are walking ;D
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 9, 2011 11:49:32 GMT -8
Keep her on the San Juans! She is closer and easier up there for me to do a trip on her! I have been wanting to get on this ship for a while! Why cant they run her to Sidney?? lol! That is all they need on that run, lol!
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jul 9, 2011 12:52:56 GMT -8
Why cant they run her to Sidney?? Doesn't meet current SOLAS standards (the certificate expired sometime around 2003 - 2004 and was never renewed) and it may not be worth it to bring a 57 year old vessel up to current SOLAS standards.
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 9, 2011 16:04:36 GMT -8
The last time I was onboard, there were several old style cabin chairs. The entire galley area looks like it's been around for a while. Also, the "curbing" on the car deck...seems like pipes that are welded together. I just get the feeling that it's an older boat by walking around. You'll have to be more specific about those "old style" cabin chairs. What you and I each call "old style" aren't the same things. ;D I always think of the round-aluminum-tubing-and-green-vinyl affairs, and those haven't been on the boats since 1994-5 when the Klahowya and Tillikum were finally redone. Honestly, it's been years since I've done the Klahowya or Tillikum. I really wouldn't know.
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Post by SS Shasta on Jul 20, 2011 18:57:57 GMT -8
Any new ideas as to what they are doing to the Evergreen? She has been in the yards most of the summer, first at Eagle Harbor. Now she is at the Foss Shipyards. She did not seem to have any work out for bid and contract.
In addition I have heard that her engines differ from those of her two sisters although she is rated for the same speed. What are the main differences?
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Post by rusty on Jul 21, 2011 6:48:54 GMT -8
Evergreen State main engines are 4-cycle Stork-Werkspor(sp?), the other boats use the venerable 2-cycle EMD's.
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