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Post by rusty on Mar 21, 2013 7:53:44 GMT -8
That kind of paint failure is usually due to improper paint application. Maybe the topcoat in those spots was too thick. Flexing of structure might also be an issue.
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Post by SolDuc on Apr 10, 2013 13:24:31 GMT -8
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Apr 10, 2013 14:41:21 GMT -8
Nice picture. Where did you take this? Nice picture. Where did you take this? Is this a good location for the ferries coming into Eagle Harbour?
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Post by SolDuc on Apr 10, 2013 16:58:21 GMT -8
The Salish, big-time leaner at Eagle Harbor. If she is still at F/V/S this weekend I might as well get to ride on her! [pic] Nice picture. Where did you take this? Nice picture. Where did you take this? Is this a good location for the ferries coming into Eagle Harbour? I took the first one from the Tacoma and the second one from the beach between the terminal and the Eagle Harbor Condos. To get to the beach, you must take a trail that starts on Harborview Dr. While it does have stunning photo ops. of EHFMU the other ferries are almost impossible to see.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Apr 10, 2013 18:35:00 GMT -8
Nice picture. Where did you take this? Nice picture. Where did you take this? Is this a good location for the ferries coming into Eagle Harbour? I took the first one from the Tacoma and the second one from the beach between the terminal and the Eagle Harbor Condos. To get to the beach, you must take a trail that starts on Harborview Dr. While it does have stunning photo ops. of EHFMU the other ferries are almost impossible to see. Thank you.
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Post by SolDuc on Apr 12, 2013 23:28:59 GMT -8
I got to spend an hour and thirty minutes or so on the Salish on Friday. To Start a good day: the Salish and Mount Rainier! MV Salish - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photo, on Flickr The Salish and the Olympics... MV Salish - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photo, on Flickr Arriving at Vashon: MV Salish - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photo, on Flickr MV Salish - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photo, on Flickr I forgot to take a photo of the builder's plaque when I was on the Salish back in December, but did not this time around: MV Salish - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photo, on Flickr It will be awesome when they'll have the boats straight! MV Salish - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photo, on Flickr Playing with the reflections: MV Salish - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photo, on Flickr At Southworth: MV Salish - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photo, on Flickr MV Tilikum and MV Salish - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photo, on Flickr 50 shades of grey: MV Salish - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photo, on Flickr
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Post by SolDuc on Apr 13, 2013 14:25:08 GMT -8
The Salish on a sailing from Fauntleroy to Southworth via Vashon. The platforms at either end of the bicycle deck make a nice place to film from when it rainy. I quite like the sped up effect on the wipers!
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Post by SolDuc on Apr 14, 2013 17:25:26 GMT -8
I've got a question, and a serious one to ask out here: Where did the Salish's sundeck nameplate go? After checking back though my pictures I found out that it wasn't there on last Monday (4/08). Here are my two guesses: 1. It's off the ship for maintenance or something similar or 2. It got stolen I hope that 1. is the right answer to my question but you never know. Here is the nameplate on December 8th: And the place where its supposed to be on April 12th: MV Salish - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photo, on Flickr
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Post by FNS on Apr 14, 2013 17:57:01 GMT -8
My guess is that the nameboard may be in for refinishing.
Another guess is that it could be moving to Frame 0 (Zero) like where the nameboard of the KENNEWICK and ISLAND HOME are. The ISLAND HOME has one on the stack side as well (the KDT ferries don't have one on that side, yet).
We'll see what appears when the SALISH returns to Port Townsend next month for another summer season of joint operation with the KENNEWICK on the Keystone Harbor run.
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Post by SolDuc on Apr 14, 2013 18:06:23 GMT -8
My guess is that the nameboard may be in for refinishing. Another guess is that it could be moving to Frame 0 (Zero) like where the nameboard of the KENNEWICK and ISLAND HOME are. The ISLAND HOME has one on the stack side as well (the KDT ferries don't have one on that side, yet). We'll see what appears when the SALISH returns to Port Townsend next month for another summer season of joint operation with the KENNEWICK. It could be moving somewhere else around the ship but for the moment it was not there. A nameboard on the stack would be really nice as the KdTs only have three (2 wheelhouse and one sundeck) nameboards and the rest of the boats (erm...Hiyu) have six (2 wheelhouse and one at each corner of the sundeck/crew deck). I personally hate where the Kennewick's side nameboard is, because of the security cameras that are just in front of it if you want to photograph it, or just see it unobstructed.
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Post by FNS on Apr 14, 2013 18:19:08 GMT -8
My guess is that the nameboard may be in for refinishing. Another guess is that it could be moving to Frame 0 (Zero) like where the nameboard of the KENNEWICK and ISLAND HOME are. The ISLAND HOME has one on the stack side as well (the KDT ferries don't have one on that side, yet). We'll see what appears when the SALISH returns to Port Townsend next month for another summer season of joint operation with the KENNEWICK. It could be moving somewhere else around the ship but for the moment it was not there. A nameboard on the stack would be really nice as the KdTs only have three (2 wheelhouse and one sundeck) nameboards and the rest of the boats (erm...Hiyu) have six (2 wheelhouse and one at each corner of the sundeck/crew deck). I personally hate where the Kennewick's side nameboard is, because of the security cameras that are just in front of it if you want to photograph it, or just see it unobstructed. You could "Photoshop" the photos to eliminate the cameras and complete the nameboard.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Apr 15, 2013 14:21:12 GMT -8
My guess is that the nameboard may be in for refinishing. Another guess is that it could be moving to Frame 0 (Zero) like where the nameboard of the KENNEWICK and ISLAND HOME are. The ISLAND HOME has one on the stack side as well (the KDT ferries don't have one on that side, yet). We'll see what appears when the SALISH returns to Port Townsend next month for another summer season of joint operation with the KENNEWICK. It could be moving somewhere else around the ship but for the moment it was not there. A nameboard on the stack would be really nice as the KdTs only have three (2 wheelhouse and one sundeck) nameboards and the rest of the boats (erm...Hiyu) have six (2 wheelhouse and one at each corner of the sundeck/crew deck). I personally hate where the Kennewick's side nameboard is, because of the security cameras that are just in front of it if you want to photograph it, or just see it unobstructed. Yeah I agree with you that KdT need six nameplates. I agree with a nameplate on the stack of the KDT. Why do the nameplates need maintenance any ways?
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Post by compdude787 on Apr 15, 2013 19:55:41 GMT -8
Why do the nameplates need maintenance any ways? They're made out of wood, and wood rots. So the nameplates have to be replaced every so often.
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Post by FNS on Apr 16, 2013 8:41:17 GMT -8
Why do the nameplates need maintenance any ways? They're made out of wood, and wood rots. So the nameplates have to be replaced every so often. "Ferryman" might be able to answer this question: Could this be a reason BC Ferries don't have nameboards on their vessels (other than the illuminated ones on the Coastals and NORTHERN EXPEDITION)? Most AMH vessels have them. For "SolDuc", I really like your photo of the SALISH out of FAU.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 16, 2013 18:44:36 GMT -8
Their plastic on those ferries not wood. Having they herd of stain the wood for Nameplates? Please try your reply again. Thank you.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Apr 16, 2013 19:05:55 GMT -8
They're made out of wood, and wood rots. So the nameplates have to be replaced every so often. "Ferryman" might be able to answer this question: Could this be a reason BC Ferries don't have nameboards on their vessels (other than the illuminated ones on the Coastals and NORTHERN EXPEDITION)? The NorEx and the Coastals have plastic not wood nameplates. Has WSF ever consider staining the wood for the nameplates?
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Post by rusty on Apr 17, 2013 19:56:35 GMT -8
Has WSF ever consider staining the wood for the nameplates? The KdTs haven't gotten there WSF made in Eagle Harbor nameboards yet. What you see is what you get -- for seventy-plus million bucks.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Apr 17, 2013 21:23:55 GMT -8
"Ferryman" might be able to answer this question: Could this be a reason BC Ferries don't have nameboards on their vessels (other than the illuminated ones on the Coastals and NORTHERN EXPEDITION)? The NorEx and the Coastals have plastic not wood nameplates. Has WSF ever consider staining the wood for the nameplates? Washington State Ferries did apply stain, and in fact also applied varnish to the sundeck nameplates on the M.V. Salish. I can confirm that just by looking at photos I took aboard the vessel before she even entered service - as I was aboard her for her dedication/open-ship ceremony. Her nameplate was very dark. Sunlight has very powerful UV rays, and I'm sure the varnish and stain they applied didn't hold up well to sunlight, which can fade low-quality woodstains and varnishes.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Apr 17, 2013 21:34:15 GMT -8
This was the nameplate on the Salish, photographed on June 30, 2011 during her open-ship ceremony. It was noticeably darker than what it was when I crossed the Port Townsend/Keystone route on her on September 7th of last year, and much noticeably darker than when she was on the Bremerton run last December.
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Post by northwesterner on Apr 21, 2013 23:11:46 GMT -8
Why do the nameplates need maintenance any ways? They're made out of wood, and wood rots. So the nameplates have to be replaced every so often. Are you implying that the nameplates need to be replaced because they rot out? They appear to be made of a tropical hardwood (mahogany or teak); this stuff lasts forever in marine environments. Therefore, your logic is faulty.
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Post by northwesterner on Apr 21, 2013 23:15:18 GMT -8
The KdTs haven't gotten there WSF made in Eagle Harbor nameboards yet. What you see is what you get -- for seventy-plus million bucks. Yup. Judging from the picture of the Salish's nameboard a few posts up-thread, it is really a poor quality job. You can see that it is two pieces of wood glued together and the carving appears to be poorly done. Whatever finish was applied has not held; the wood appears to be down to the grains. Compare that picture to the nameboards that can be seen in the rotating flagships for this month. That nameboard on the Spokane has been there since I was a little kid (either that or they are able to make beautiful replicas every few years) and the workmanship is beautiful compared to the piece of junk on the Salish.
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Post by compdude787 on Apr 22, 2013 20:23:35 GMT -8
They're made out of wood, and wood rots. So the nameplates have to be replaced every so often. Are you implying that the nameplates need to be replaced because they rot out? They appear to be made of a tropical hardwood (mahogany or teak); this stuff lasts forever in marine environments. Therefore, your logic is faulty. Okay, I didn't know what material that's used or how long it's last. Thanks for the info though.
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Post by zargoman on May 13, 2013 21:16:28 GMT -8
Uh, has anybody seen the Salish lately? I hear that she she is no longer leaning, but I haven't seen any recent pics.
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Post by zargoman on May 13, 2013 21:20:53 GMT -8
Oh yeah...The nameboards on the KDTs look like they would easily split. All the other WSF nameboards seem to be solid wood. These ones look like they are very rough and, uh, well, I can't come up with the name of it, but it reminds me of cedar shakes, which will snap real easily if pressure is applied the wrong way.
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Post by zargoman on May 21, 2013 11:03:49 GMT -8
Hey look! The Salish had the steel shot added to the hull and now sits on an even keel!!!
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