Neil
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Post by Neil on Jan 11, 2012 15:13:06 GMT -8
:)I would agree that pragmatic is a good description for wacky, and he would adopt a ccf policy in a heartbeat, when he thought it was good politics, witness bc electric, and peabody's cdn. black ball fleet. however I think he had many flaws, but I feel the old anacronism of Bennett's navy was merited when you look at the mamouth building programme from 1959 thru 1966 when my old QPR came on line. that's more than a dozen, if you include the highways fleet! look at the picture that my brother posted from my collection of a mighty prowd godfather wacky and monte aldous looking over the builders model of the QPR! no he was very into that enterprise! hahn's new age fleet renewal is a joke put along side this ship order book! :)mrdot. I believe the count during that period was fourteen for BC ferries and another four for Dept of Highways coastal operations. Impressive indeed, and a testament to the capability of our local yards when they were healthy and employing hundreds of workers. Speaking of Highways (and getting back to the names topic), they shared for the most part, the 'Queen' denotion up until the early '70s. Exceptions were the Westwood and the Garibaldi I, and Garibaldi II. A picture we'll probably never see on this forum is that of the Denman Queen, launched in '72, and renamed Klitsa in '73. I would think that holds the record for shortest lived name ever, for our car ferries. (Oops... I should have specified that the Queens only applied to new Highways vessels- they employed a number of older boats that had no royalty in the name)
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Post by mrdot on Jan 11, 2012 17:02:55 GMT -8
:)thank-you for getting me focused on the nomenclature, for shortest name change of local boats, the Lady Sylvia wins, as her name was changed to Lady Rose on her delivery voyage out from the old country! Now she was well built, but surely should have been built here, as most weren't in those days. It took people like wacky to acknowledge this, but later day managers seem to be focused elsewhere! ???mrdot.
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Nick
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Post by Nick on Jan 11, 2012 17:05:40 GMT -8
A picture we'll probably never see on this forum is that of the Denman Queen, launched in '72, and renamed Klitsa in '73. I would think that holds the record for shortest lived name ever, for our car ferries. Does anybody know the reasoning for the name change from Denman Queen to Klitsa? Was it solely to avoid "tying" the boat to a specific run, or was there another reason?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 11, 2012 17:50:36 GMT -8
A picture we'll probably never see on this forum is that of the Denman Queen, launched in '72, and renamed Klitsa in '73. I would think that holds the record for shortest lived name ever, for our car ferries. Does anybody know the reasoning for the name change from Denman Queen to Klitsa? Was it solely to avoid "tying" the boat to a specific run, or was there another reason? Solely for the purpose of annoying a forum member named "The Legendary Mill Bay". - that's my theory.
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Post by Kahloke on Jan 11, 2012 18:14:17 GMT -8
:)Were I think we could learn, from the folks down south is how they have maintained their now ageing fleet, and kept their historic livery, over many changes in their politics! :)mrdot. The WSF fleet is starting to look better, as of late, but there were several recent years where maintenance was deferred due to a crippled budget (thank you once again Tim Eyman : , and that lack of maintenance led to a good majority of the fleet looking pretty shabby. Just look at Hyak, Yakima, and Chelan as prime examples of what happens when maintenance gets deferred. Happily, they've all been painted recently and are looking much better than they did a couple of years ago. With maintenance appearing to be back on schedule, the fleet's actually looking pretty good right now, at least it seems that way. As far as the historic livery goes, well, we had that little experiment from the early 80's to the mid 90's with the "Citrus Livery" - i.e. the orange and blue stripes flanking the green, but thankfully the powers that be in the 90's sought to return us to the standard green and white colours that grace our vessels once again.
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Post by mrdot on Jan 11, 2012 20:12:16 GMT -8
:)yes, turning to Washington state, zargoman's shots of an old friend, make me wish we could maintain some of our veterens with as much care! :)mrdot.
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Neil
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Post by Neil on Jan 11, 2012 22:13:13 GMT -8
Does anybody know the reasoning for the name change from Denman Queen to Klitsa? Was it solely to avoid "tying" the boat to a specific run, or was there another reason? Solely for the purpose of annoying a forum member named "The Legendary Mill Bay". - that's my theory. Probably a safe bet that all those harsh sounding k-names were thought up by philistine ferry bureaucrats who had never taken a single course in language aesthetics.
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Post by mrdot on Jan 11, 2012 22:43:13 GMT -8
:)now we are getting to the corny, perhaps all the K's in that period of nomenclature were a result of the KKK clan, after all, there were some squrilly new positions in that era of supernatural berarchury! :)mrdot
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Post by Mill Bay on Jan 19, 2012 20:21:06 GMT -8
Solely for the purpose of annoying a forum member named "The Legendary Mill Bay". - that's my theory. Probably a safe bet that all those harsh sounding k-names were thought up by philistine ferry bureaucrats who had never taken a single course in language aesthetics. I get the impression from this discussion, that Neil is trying to impersonate my pretense for language aesthetics.
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Post by Neil on Jan 19, 2012 22:25:19 GMT -8
Probably a safe bet that all those harsh sounding k-names were thought up by philistine ferry bureaucrats who had never taken a single course in language aesthetics. I get the impression from this discussion, that Neil is trying to impersonate my pretense for language aesthetics. Definitely not. I wouldn't be anywhere near up to the task.
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