here is an image of the town, a house, and another one just of boats in case anyone found it interesting. i'm sorry i can't seem to figure out how to post them into the message, only as an attachment. thanks!
these old style plates of the north coast canneries which were served by the Union ss co. are quite enlighting and illustrate a life that is long gone from the north coast, the cannery shot may be one of the many skeena canneries that were served by the Union ss co. much of the labour was transported in sterage like conditions as one of the pics. illustrates. mrdot.
Yes, it very well could be the NPC. The layout & buildings look similar to what you see today. Unlike other cannery villages along the coast the NPC had/has a mainline rail track running just behind the village. If any of the photos show what looks like a rail grade then this probably is the NPC.
In that BC once had about 100 canneries along the coast a century ago it is very likely that quite a few of them were similar in layout to North Pacific.
Thanks for all of the great information, this will help with my research. there are some interesting ideas to follow here. I didn't realise there were that many canneries on the coast, so maybe finding the exact one isn't possible.
:)In those days that was true of many workplaces, as very few enjoyed any of the benefits that many of us took for granted in today's workplace environment. Mr Rushton and my dad talked a bit about that, and I brought back his copy and notes that he left my dad and I will give his copies and notes to wettcoast/whitecoast'to scan in future. Many in the marine industry did not have very secure retirements, and I owe much to my superannuation pension from both the ferry and municipal pensions. :)mrdot.
Post by captainjack on Feb 20, 2011 20:44:24 GMT -8
Thanks for the welcome flugelhorn, glad to be aboard. I'll admit I'm new to this forum/thread/blog/online discussion thing, but it seems worthwhile. I am surprised (disappointed) that there does not seem to be too many different participants. Of course the problem with dealing with a subject like this is that most of the people who had any direct connection to the Company are long gone. Personal anecdotes are far and away the best avenue to really getting the flavour of what the old ships were all about. At least we have Gerald and Art to thank for their great service in actually getting it on paper. Tom Henry's effort is commendable as a story-teller, however I don't believe he ever had any real experience with Union, but instead relied on the archives for his material. As mentioned my grandfather, Andrew Beattie (you figured it out flugelhorn) was Chief on the Catala for many years. Unfortunately he died many years before I was born, so I wasn't able to sit him down for an extensive interview. Too bad. He came out from Scotland as third engineer on the original Camosun, and settled in Victoria, then Vancouver. My great, great uncle was John Barnsley, formerly of Boscowitz Co., then general manager of Union. He did not last too long in that position before he died.
Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 27, 2011 22:05:18 GMT -8
I've just finished reading Gerald Rushton's 1980 book "Echoes of the Whistle" and I was surprised to learn that 2 former CP BCCS ships were bought by the Union company in the early 1950s and converted to bulk carriers.
- Princess Mary
- Princess Maquinna
The "after photos" show the hulls stripped of their superstructures.
Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 12, 2011 20:39:02 GMT -8
"Vancouver, CPR, Tommy Roberts, Cassiar"
Here's some more USSC culture:
The Grand Hotel
There's a place in Vancouver you all know so well, It's a place where they keep rot-gut whisky to sell, They also keep boarders, they keep them like hell, And the name of that place is the Grand Hotel.
In the Grand Hotel when the loggers come in, It's amusing to see the proprietor grin, He knows they've got money, he'll soon have it all, "Come on, boys, have a drink!", you will hear Tommy call.
Oh, the bartender laughs as the money rolls in They drink beer and whisky, champagne, rum and gin Till they all get so boozy they can't drink no more, And the loggers lay scattered all over the floor.
In the morning the loggers wake up from their bed, Their money's all gone and Oh lord! what a head, They rush to the bar and they call for a drink, And Tommy gets busy a-slinging the ink.
"Four bits for your bed, though you slept on the floor, And the breakfast you've missed will be four bits more, And a four dollar meal ticket, good at the bar, And a pass back to camp on the old Cassiar."
------- note: coll. from Bennett King Lesley, Shaughnessy Hospital by Phil Thomas and in his Songs of the Pacific Northwest. Another version collected by Ed McCurdy is in Fowke. The building still stands. The song predates 1923, when Tommy Roberts, the proprietor, was shot and killed while gambling. With no banks for "stakey" loggers just arrived in town to use, they were prime targets for robbers of every sort, so Roberts would put their rolls in the hotel safe, and "run a slate" for them, first making sure he'd taken out enough money to pay for their trip back up to the remote logging camps on the coast steamer "Cassiar". JB
The Grand Hotel/The Peekaboo Waltz/Buck’s Camp Down at Monroe
Here are two songs collected by Phil Thomas and published in his Songs of the Pacific Northwest, separated by a waltz that was popular in the logging camps. The Grand Hotel was a common destination for many of the loggers arriving in Vancouver on board the Cassiar from coastal logging camps. They would often hand over their “roll” to the proprietor, Tommy Roberts (1883-1917) for safekeeping, and Tommy would “run a slate” for them until the money was spent. “Buck’s Camp” makes sport of the conditions in a camp in western Washington at the turn of the century.
:)a welcome to new member revid, you have taped into a group of U.SSco enthusiasts, and I will get my brother whitecoast, to direct you to a treasure trove of material that we have between several of our group. Welcome to the fold, as it were. :)mrdot.
I thank you for a warm welcome mrdot. My intrest started with Rushtons book..never looked back, I also have Art Twiggs. Since 1978 I have travelled up and down the coast in the wake of the union steamships.revid
:)futher to revid's thank-you note, our neigbour some years ago was mr. gerald rushton, he was a delightful gentleman, and several of the folks pictured in the last photo in mr. twiggs book attended with myself at his memorial service here in tsawwaswssen in 1993.There is much material in the Union S.S. thread, which you will find here, enjoy your voyage thru it! :)mrdot.
While at the Edmonds antique mall yesterday I came across this postcard which I snagged at once... Catala on the beach at Ocean Shores.
Caption on the back says: S.S. Catala, Ocean Shores Marina, Ocean Shores, Washington Moved to this lagoon in 1963 to serve as a salmon fishing base for sports fishing, the former World's Fair hotel ship capsized in a violent 100 MPH windstorm New Years Day 1965.
:)I am going to have to see if brother whitecoast can dig out my much happier vue of Catala in her prime somewhere on the north coast, as this will counterbalence the sad vue depected on EGfleet's evocative post. mrdot.
:)yes EGfleet, that new post of Catala is a much happier pose, thank you for that, yesterday's header of Queen of North was evocative also, and was much more shipspape in her first trim, but I am glad we switched back to Kalakla in old Victoria, a wonderful glance back in time. :)mrdot.
Nearly identical to the last postcard, although this one was produced before the ship went aground. Caption on the back says: S.S CATALA Ocean Shores' new salmon fishing base is the S.S. Catala, former World's Fair hotel ship, which is moored in a lagoon at the south end of the resort's long peninsula. The famous resort area is also known as the "Capital of the Clam Coast."
Hi All In order to keep harmony I have agreed to relinqish some of my damaged Union and CP tableware. If interested let me know...I will send picture(s) to the interested. The Union is belt buckle and banner logos. The CP are Can. Pac. and BCCSS......Revid