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Post by Fenklebaum on Apr 6, 2011 23:27:44 GMT -8
Hi Revid,
I'd be very interested in taking a look. I've PM'ed you my email address.
Fenk, interested
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Post by captainjack on Apr 16, 2011 15:34:45 GMT -8
Of course we've all seen this movie before. Kind of begs the question"What was going on on the bridge??" Good news was that the master and all else concerned were cleared of any responsibility or error, and the old girl was relatively unscathed. Attachments:
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 16, 2011 16:57:16 GMT -8
Of course we've all seen this movie before. Kind of begs the question"What was going on on the bridge??" Good news was that the master and all else concerned were cleared of any responsibility or error, and the old girl was relatively unscathed. Cap'n Jack's post got me Googling about the Catala and her "way off course" accident. Perhaps the members of the bridge crew were unsupervised and working their first shift together after breaking-off an extra-marital relationship. Or perhaps something less fictionally unlikely? My Googling led me to this Sunshine Coast Museum/Archives webpage with a general history of shipping companies that served the sunshine coast. sunshinecoastmuseum.ca/exhibits/marine-transportation- no answer about why Catala ended up being so far off course near (and then on) Sparrow Hawk though.... |
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Post by mrdot on Apr 16, 2011 18:32:03 GMT -8
:)there can be no connection made between the bridge watchkeeping of Catalla in that incident , and the watchkeeping on the bridge of Queen of the North, which met with a much worse conclusion! :)mrdot.
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Post by captainjack on Apr 16, 2011 22:50:57 GMT -8
No connection implied. It seems simple error put Catala up on the rocks. Heading south from Port Simpson on a very high tide the channel appeared much wider than normal. So steering for the centre of the channel was in fact putting the ship on a course for the reef. Anyway this card of Bella Bella puts things in a much more normal setting. Note the boardwalk to the left. What wouldn't we give to be standing on the dock that day?
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Post by captainjack on Apr 16, 2011 22:56:36 GMT -8
I'll try again with the attachment... Attachments:
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Post by Mill Bay on Apr 18, 2011 18:44:47 GMT -8
Of course we've all seen this movie before. Kind of begs the question"What was going on on the bridge??" Good news was that the master and all else concerned were cleared of any responsibility or error, and the old girl was relatively unscathed. Actually they do know what happened on the bridge. According to accounts of the grounding, a violent storm during the night had repositioned a navigation buoy and the bridge watch did not realize this and followed proper procedure to inadvertently navigate onto the reef while thinking they were staying well clear of it. |
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Post by normhageman on Apr 23, 2011 21:13:19 GMT -8
 I have come across this forum and wish my dad was still alive. The Chelosin is the first ship in my dad's log book and entry date is November 4, 1949. He lost all of his camera equipment when the Chelosin sank. My dad sailed for Union Steamships and I believe CP on the Prince Ships. I took out a library book on Union Steamships Remembered as it was far too expensive to buy from Abe's books. but it was an amazing journey. I am blessed to have most of Rushton's books. A great history not to be forgotten. Cheers, Deb, daughter to Norm (Tex) Hageman.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 23, 2011 21:35:35 GMT -8
I have come across this forum and wish my dad was still alive. Welcome here, Deb. I've found a photo of your Dad in Art Twigg's book. - and I've re-read the section of the good ship " Charlie Olsen". Good history reading for a springtime Saturday night. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 6, 2011 11:27:19 GMT -8
Catala on the beach at Ocean Shores.  Here's MV Chelan trying to look like Catala  well, not really. But that's what came to mind when I saw the optical illusion. |
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Post by mrdot on May 6, 2011 12:50:27 GMT -8
:)that pic. of the stranded Catala is a sad way of remembering her but the optical illusions are interesting! mrdot.  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 18, 2011 22:27:27 GMT -8
While walking along the Campbell River waterfront yesterday, I noticed a small mural. - it looks like the mural includes a depiction of a Union Steamship. This makes sense because Campbell River was served by the Union's logging routes. Here's the full mural. - I like how it looks like I am a giant walking on the jetty..... ;D  Close-up of the ship. - there's no notation of the ship name, but I've identified her as the Chelohsin.  |
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Post by mrdot on Jun 19, 2011 6:43:21 GMT -8
:)mr horn, both the posted union stuff and your wonderful pics. of Akaska ferry Columbia, are great! the posted dock side union is actually the earlier Union boat ' Camosun" of about 1905, I have a drawing of her at the Cambell river wharf, similar to the one shown. )mrdot.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 19, 2011 6:58:55 GMT -8
the posted dock side union is actually the earlier Union boat ' Camosun" of about 1905, I have a drawing of her at the Cambell river wharf, similar to the one shown. )mrdot. Thanks for that info. I was using Art Twigg's book and his pictures for comparison. I thought I had my match because of the boom-cranes placed forward of the wheelhouse, and other features. I'll have to compare the pictures of Chelohsin to Camosun-I, to see how similar they might be. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 19, 2011 18:19:18 GMT -8
In case you're wondering how the Cardena is looking these days, here's a view of her stern on June 16, 2011. - she's the stern-section on the lower part of the photo. (the ship above it is the "Runnymede".)  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 20, 2011 10:19:02 GMT -8
the posted dock side union is actually the earlier Union boat ' Camosun" of about 1905, I have a drawing of her at the Cambell river wharf, similar to the one shown. )mrdot. Thanks for that info. I was using Art Twigg's book and his pictures for comparison. I thought I had my match because of the boom-cranes placed forward of the wheelhouse, and other features. I'll have to compare the pictures of Chelohsin to Camosun-I, to see how similar they might be. Here's a link to a picture of Camosun, from Campbell River museum gallery.crmuseum.ca/photograph/union-steamship-camosun |
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Post by mrdot on Jun 20, 2011 11:17:07 GMT -8
:)that pic. posted in the file is not Camosun 1, a different vessel than the pic. shown, which I think may be Celeosen! :)mrdot.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 20, 2011 11:23:06 GMT -8
:)that pic. posted in the file is not Camosun 1, a different vessel than the pic. shown, which I think may be Celeosen! :)mrdot. hahaha, so I'm not the only person who gets those 2 ships mixed up. ;D |
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Post by Mill Bay on Jun 20, 2011 16:30:32 GMT -8
:)that pic. posted in the file is not Camosun 1, a different vessel than the pic. shown, which I think may be Celeosen! :)mrdot. hahaha, so I'm not the only person who gets those 2 ships mixed up. ;D It's the Chelohsin for both of you, just so you know ;D |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 24, 2011 18:47:55 GMT -8
The Lady Pam's final assignment was as part of the ship-breakwater at Oyster Bay, south of Campbell River. That was in the late 1940s, when the forestry industry created a cove to shelter a log-sort. I visited the site in June 2011. It's now known as Oyster Bay Shoreline Park, and the breakwater is now mainly large rocks. - but there are various remains of various ships still visible in some places, sticking out of the sand and between the large rocks. I'm hoping that these pics are of remains of Lady Pam, but it could very well be any of the old ships that were used for this breakwater. ------------     |
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Post by mrdot on Jun 24, 2011 19:46:05 GMT -8
:)you know I've been thinking on the various skeletal remains of many coastal veterans up and down the coast, a contest for me might be recalling some I have explored in my journeys up island and around the coast. There ends are far more dignified than that of our recently departed Esquimalt, and those remains of our neighbours beloved steel electrics! I think of the wartime naval frigates that became breakwaters at Kelsey Bay, Roysten, Powell River, Fanny Bay, and many others I have visited, I worked very shortly at Zebalos, and as I recall some remains were there, and many others, can be added to the list. I am not sure about Union SS. remains and there sites, of course I have sailed by the grave site of Princess Kathleen, and other west coast remains. Some sites are very sad, however still better fates than the degredation the San Mateao and my old Sydney, and many others! :'(mrdot.
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Post by Neil on Jun 24, 2011 21:58:29 GMT -8
:)you know I've been thinking on the various skeletal remains of many coastal veterans up and down the coast, a contest for me might be recalling some I have explored in my journeys up island and around the coast. There ends are far more dignified than that of our recently departed Esquimalt, and those remains of our neighbours beloved steel electrics! I think of the wartime naval frigates that became breakwaters at Kelsey Bay, Roysten, Powell River, Fanny Bay, and many others I have visited, I worked very shortly at Zebalos, and as I recall some remains were there, and many others, can be added to the list. I am not sure about Union SS. remains and there sites, of course I have sailed by the grave site of Princess Kathleen, and other west coast remains. Some sites are very sad, however still better fates than the degredation the San Mateao and my old Sydney, and many others! :'(mrdot. There's an article on the Royston breakwater in June's Western Mariner. A number of the hulks there have been buried under a rock breakwater, and looking on Google Earth, it appears one wouldn't have a great view of the remaining pieces, as it looks like they are a ways out from shore. Still, I want to check it out next time I drive into Courtenay. Boats were dumped there from 1936 through 1962, with at least four destroyers and frigates after the war, starting in '46. |
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 19, 2011 18:13:42 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 19, 2011 19:38:55 GMT -8
I was stumbling around on Flickr and have come across a 1952 colour photo of the Cardena at Alert Bay. There is some interesting to discussion also. Check it out! Thanks very much for those links. I really enjoyed them. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 19, 2011 20:44:21 GMT -8
A nice Union Steamship poster, seen in a collection at the Bowen Island archives.  |
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I have come across this forum and wish my dad was still alive. The Chelosin is the first ship in my dad's log book and entry date is November 4, 1949. He lost all of his camera equipment when the Chelosin sank. My dad sailed for Union Steamships and I believe CP on the Prince Ships. I took out a library book on Union Steamships Remembered as it was far too expensive to buy from Abe's books. but it was an amazing journey. I am blessed to have most of Rushton's books. A great history not to be forgotten.
