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Post by ferryfanyvr on Feb 1, 2009 11:13:44 GMT -8
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Post by Ferryman on Feb 1, 2009 11:26:21 GMT -8
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Post by Kahloke on Feb 1, 2009 11:48:26 GMT -8
Thanks for those great historical photos, Ferryfanyvr! And, it's great to see the before and afters that Ferryman posted - what a difference! I rode on the C's several times in the late 80's, and if I remember correctly, they still had the brown colours, at least the brown carpeting and some of that wood paneling - maybe the orange seats, too, I don't remember. The predacessors of the C-Class vessels, MV Walla Walla and MV Spokane, had pretty much the same interior colour scheme going on - gotta love the 70's ;D.
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Feb 1, 2009 13:39:04 GMT -8
Found 2 pics taken aboard the Queen of Surrey that same summer, 1981...the Surrey's first season in service: The snack bar seating area.... and one of the side lounges....
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Post by Northern Exploration on Feb 1, 2009 13:43:22 GMT -8
WOW!! Now THAT is RETRO. I remember those seats on the Coquitlam, but they changed the upholstery on them from the brown to the red and green colours that you see on the Queen of Vancouver. Those seats were the best on one of those late night sailings, and you wanted to have a nap without sleeping on the dirty floor. The fact that this photo is from the Cowichan, it makes it even better. Thanks for the memories ferryfanyvr. Cheers Those colours give away the time frame of the pics. There is an ad on TV right now for some product with a woman doing a Flash dance type routine on an old TTC subway in old colours. They are quite close to the ferry's colours. Orange was quite in during that period. Now it looks dated. Qantas tried to be very trendy with their new interior colours debuted on the A380. However, the green used is no where near as grey as those in the Coastalized ferries. More like mashed peas. Or better yet if you have ever changed a babies diapers after the baby ate.... Eeeeeeew never mind TMI. But you get the idea. There actually are panels that meet made up with representatives from all over that determines the "new colours." All sorts of marketers refer to these colours and often use them trying to ride the wave of popularity. Cars are the most obvious. You often see versions of the same colour pop up in competing car companies. These groups decide now what colours will be new and fresh in the coming years (about 2 years away). Then the manufactures and fashion designers have time to work them into the supply lines for their products and then produce them. A couple of years ago everything was wine colours. Cabernet and merlot and various tones of darker reds. Everything then geared to that in advance. So when those colours showed up in women's clothing, make-up companies were prepared and had shades to match, and accessories were ready (shoes and handbags). I am not sure if the coastalized ferries are making use of a pallet that is trendy or a designer or ad agency determined the colours. They do look modern and fresh but don't have the nostalgia that ferry geeks gravitate to. The hideous ones on the TTC were sidelined for a deep clear red that matches the red in the TTC logo. The vinyl seats have been replaced by highwear red fabric. The fake woodgrain has been replaced with an easy to take care of medium grey. The doors on the subways are red and easy to see in lower light or during emergencies. No doubt in 5 to 10 years the coastalized interiors will be dated.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Feb 1, 2009 21:45:34 GMT -8
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Post by D'Elete BC in NJ on Feb 2, 2009 5:52:16 GMT -8
No doubt in 5 to 10 years the coastalized interiors will be dated. I hope they're force to wait until 10 years...5 years is way too soon to be dated!
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Post by Northern Exploration on Feb 2, 2009 7:52:08 GMT -8
No doubt in 5 to 10 years the coastalized interiors will be dated. I hope they're force to wait until 10 years...5 years is way too soon to be dated! ...And some things are just timeless. Lets see - kinda like socks in Birkenstocks. I didn't say necessarily in good taste .
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Feb 2, 2009 15:51:43 GMT -8
Here are some photos, again from 1981, of the first time I ever travelled on the Queen of Alberni. It was the first season the Alberni was in operation on route 2 having just been moved up from route 1 when the newly lifted Queens of Vancouver and Victoria re-entered service. Since they had much increased overheight capabilities, the Alberni was deemed more useful to relieve heavy overheight traffic on route 2. Alberni arriving at Departure Bay berth 2: walking on the main (and only) cardeck: 2 views of one of the side lounges: pulling away form berth 2: 2 views of one of the end lounges: en route to Horseshoe Bay:
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Post by Mill Bay on Feb 2, 2009 16:22:03 GMT -8
Wow!... those Queen of Alberni photos are some of the best i've seen in a while. I never knew she ran on route 2 before she was lifted. That would have been very interesting to see. I have boarded on the main cardeck as well, of course it was quite recently and that now seems to be the only really interesting area of the ship. Back then, it looks like the lounges would have been lots of fun. I would truly love to have one of those big old chairs today.
Also, I really love the layout of the Alberni with just a single cardeck. I resubmit my recommendation to BCFerries that if they want a truly functional design for an intermediate vessel, they should look no further than the original Queen of Alberni. They could add RADs or whatever they want to it, but the basic simplicity of a double ended design, with two bridges, a nice wide cardeck and adequate lounge space looks and feels much better, and is surely a more proven design than the Island Sky, with it's bare vulture's head for a bridge stuck way at the top of a long skinny ostrich neck box on top of the superstructure. The original Queen of Alberni was just so well proportioned.
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Post by northwesterner on Feb 2, 2009 22:35:55 GMT -8
WOW!! Now THAT is RETRO. I remember those seats on the Coquitlam, but they changed the upholstery on them from the brown to the red and green colours that you see on the Queen of Vancouver. Those seats were the best on one of those late night sailings, and you wanted to have a nap without sleeping on the dirty floor. Like Chris, I remember those seats, but in the red and green. IIRC, they were awful to sit in. These pictures make the original interior of the Walla Walla and Spokane look good!
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Post by D'Elete BC in NJ on Feb 3, 2009 8:11:00 GMT -8
I hope they're force to wait until 10 years...5 years is way too soon to be dated! ...And some things are just timeless. Lets see - kinda like socks in Birkenstocks. I didn't say necessarily in good taste . Birkenstocks and socks are never in bad taste...unless it's snowing...then it's good sense to upgrade to Gor-tex socks, though a good set of wool socks will go miles... ;D lol...those old photos are making me reminisce about our orange kitchen growing up...the 70s were an interesting palette!
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Post by Northern Exploration on Feb 3, 2009 8:13:49 GMT -8
Did you have avocado coloured appliances? That had to be the ugliest green in existance. ;D
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Post by D'Elete BC in NJ on Feb 3, 2009 8:25:48 GMT -8
Did you have avocado coloured appliances? That had to be the ugliest green in existance. ;D lol...no, gold...but we did have a blue toilet...and a white sink...yeah, the parental units went bargain shopping that day...
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 3, 2009 12:39:21 GMT -8
You had appliances, including a toilet? I thought that you grew up on Texada...... Did you have avocado coloured appliances? That had to be the ugliest green in existance. ;D lol...no, gold...but we did have a blue toilet...and a white sink...yeah, the parental units went bargain shopping that day...
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Post by Dane on Feb 3, 2009 13:03:33 GMT -8
NorEx - I think I disagree with your comments regarding the "nostalgia" ferry fans gravitate towards. I think the reason we have nostalgia is because BC Ferries generally holds onto interior designs well past their prime for obvious cost measures. Many of BC Ferries interiors - like that shown above - were trendy at the time, and intentionally so. Queen of Saanich is another great example - it is now, in my opinion, 'dated.' It certainly wasn't even 5 or 6 years ago.
BC Ferries, maybe for the first time ever, actually got in on this "Coastal design" theme around the same time it became generally popular. I remember the Queen of Coquitlam looked absolutely amazing, fresh, and modern when she re-entered service.
What I am getting at - in 15 years when BC Ferries cannot afford to redo all the interiors I think we'll get that nostalgic feeling we were all looking for.
Remember a lot of the BC Ferries fleet has been standardized in the past - just a majority of us weren't alive to see it.
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Post by northwesterner on Feb 3, 2009 13:31:11 GMT -8
I believe that color is known as "Harvest Gold." Most places that recycle interior fittings will not accept anything in these colors - they can't sell them for reuse.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Feb 3, 2009 13:54:21 GMT -8
wow, those are really interesting photos. I love seeing the interior photos of the ferries back in those days. Those years were really wierd for decor. lol! Love the old yellow carpet. I remember those on the V's in the 80's!
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Post by Northern Exploration on Feb 3, 2009 15:38:24 GMT -8
NorEx - I think I disagree with your comments regarding the "nostalgia" ferry fans gravitate towards. I think the reason we have nostalgia is because BC Ferries generally holds onto interior designs well past their prime for obvious cost measures. Many of BC Ferries interiors - like that shown above - were trendy at the time, and intentionally so. Queen of Saanich is another great example - it is now, in my opinion, 'dated.' It certainly wasn't even 5 or 6 years ago. BC Ferries, maybe for the first time ever, actually got in on this "Coastal design" theme around the same time it became generally popular. I remember the Queen of Coquitlam looked absolutely amazing, fresh, and modern when she re-entered service. What I am getting at - in 15 years when BC Ferries cannot afford to redo all the interiors I think we'll get that nostalgic feeling we were all looking for. Remember a lot of the BC Ferries fleet has been standardized in the past - just a majority of us weren't alive to see it. I think the nostalgia comes from either what you are most used to and/or the first time something gets imprinted in your mind. I am actually one of the oldies (who I believe but can't prove) rode all the orginal 7 sisters. Maybe even the Richmond when I was really young and didn't pay attention. So for me the Nanny and Burnaby are the closest to that. Except for the Tswwassen and Sidney all were stretched by the time I was on the coast. All my trips were mainland to Vancouver Island so I wasn't on the other ferries that were around like the Susie Q etc. Odours for me are a big trigger, so for me the smell of the V's spark nostalgia. None of the interiors look like they did "back in the day" so the interiors you may be used to don't trigger much for me. I was being half a smart @ss when I was posting above, so I actually agree with you that the coastalized interiors are going to be around a long long time before the next version comes around. Materials keep improving so hopefully they will stay better looking longer.
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Post by D'Elete BC in NJ on Feb 3, 2009 16:53:20 GMT -8
You had appliances, including a toilet? I thought that you grew up on Texada...... lol...no, gold...but we did have a blue toilet...and a white sink...yeah, the parental units went bargain shopping that day... Only the later years...
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Post by WettCoast on Feb 3, 2009 19:22:17 GMT -8
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Feb 3, 2009 19:34:06 GMT -8
Well I have one more set to go, this time of the pre-lifted Queen of Esquimalt...I'll put them in the thread you mentioned when I get around to it..I'm hoping to dig up a couple more to go with them...it just depends how much digging through my storage locker I feel like doing!
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Post by Dane on Feb 4, 2009 0:36:59 GMT -8
I think the nostalgia comes from either what you are most used to and/or the first time something gets imprinted in your mind. I am actually one of the oldies (who I believe but can't prove) rode all the orginal 7 sisters. Maybe even the Richmond when I was really young and didn't pay attention. So for me the Nanny and Burnaby are the closest to that. Except for the Tswwassen and Sidney all were stretched by the time I was on the coast. All my trips were mainland to Vancouver Island so I wasn't on the other ferries that were around like the Susie Q etc. Odours for me are a big trigger, so for me the smell of the V's spark nostalgia. None of the interiors look like they did "back in the day" so the interiors you may be used to don't trigger much for me. I was being half a smart @ss when I was posting above, so I actually agree with you that the coastalized interiors are going to be around a long long time before the next version comes around. Materials keep improving so hopefully they will stay better looking longer. Great comments. I really agree with you about the smells. The Coquitlam, Surrey, and Oak Bay all smelled like dirty old hotels prior to going in for MLU. This smell, to me, hasn't been replicated anywhere else in the fleet and I would love to know what caused it. On some of the older Coastalized vessels there is starting to also be a bit of a White Spot meets cheap/fake leather smell that I am getting accustomed too. I get nothing from the Spirits. And the Coastals still smell like new cars. Sadly, by the time I was alive the seven sisters had no resemblance to their original selves, although when I was six days old I took my first ever ferry trip on the Queen of Burnaby
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 15, 2009 17:17:32 GMT -8
Here are some photos from Pipers Lagoon in Nanaimo, Sunday afternoon. Coastals Inspiration and Renaissance. ================ Coastal Harmac C'Inspiration at Entrance Island: Coastal Chinook-II at Snake Island: C'Inspiration inbound to Genesis-Duke Point: Coastal Renaissance with some new smoke-stacks installed at one end: 'Renaissance outbound to HSB:
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Post by Canucks on Feb 15, 2009 20:54:07 GMT -8
Nice pictures Flugal! Piper's lagoon is a great place for pictures. I once stood out there for an hour in the winter rain an wind to get some pictures but the weather looked pretty good today.
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