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Post by Neil on Apr 24, 2015 16:27:17 GMT -8
I uploaded to YouTube some video footage of the steamship Princess Marguerite from 1988 that may be of some interest. Shows arrival and departure from Victoria, lots of whistling, and includes specifications of the steam whistle. It is low resolution so best viewed on the smaller screen:
Steamship Princess Marguerite Well, as first posts go, that might be an award winner. Thank you very much for that, and welcome.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 24, 2015 19:09:31 GMT -8
I uploaded to YouTube some video footage of the steamship Princess Marguerite from 1988 that may be of some interest. Shows arrival and departure from Victoria, lots of whistling, and includes specifications of the steam whistle. It is low resolution so best viewed on the smaller screen:
Steamship Princess Marguerite Thanks very much for that. By the way Peter, I really enjoyed your "Bowen Island Passenger Ferries" book. Well done.
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Post by Starsteward on Apr 25, 2015 1:21:43 GMT -8
I uploaded to YouTube some video footage of the steamship Princess Marguerite from 1988 that may be of some interest. Shows arrival and departure from Victoria, lots of whistling, and includes specifications of the steam whistle. It is low resolution so best viewed on the smaller screen:
Steamship Princess Marguerite Thanks for posting two of the most 'historic' videos of the 'Maggie' that I've seen. Having lived in Victoria during the late 1970's, one did become tuned into her comings and goings by the sound of her whistle blasts resonating across the city from the inner harbour. At least twice a day, one knew what time it was. Long live the 'Maggie' and welcome aboard the Forum.
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Post by FNS on Sept 24, 2015 21:06:30 GMT -8
From a postcard purchased at the Bush Point Restaurant. The PRINCESS MARGUERITE is seen here passing Bush Point in the 1970s. It would be around 0945 or 1000 when she would be passing by, provided she sailed from Seattle at 0800. At night, she would usually pass by at around 2000 going southbound to Seattle. Her wake was royal. Better prepare yourself for some big waves on the shorelines!
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Post by EGfleet on Nov 25, 2015 9:10:17 GMT -8
Here's a somewhat unconventional view of the Princess Marguerite. I think this is off Port Angeles (given the dock in the foreground), though with the fog bank in the background, I'm open for suggestions. The slide is stamped August, 1974.
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Post by dlayland on May 17, 2016 19:20:49 GMT -8
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Post by FNS on Jul 7, 2016 17:10:25 GMT -8
From a postcard purchased from an antique seller, we see the PRINCESS MARGUERITE passing Brockton Point Lighthouse in the 1950s heading out from Vancouver to either Namaimo or Victoria and Seattle. This PC was postmarked 21 September 1957 and was destined to Los Angeles CA.
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Post by WettCoast on Nov 15, 2016 9:50:38 GMT -8
Princess Marguerite II - c1974 - Juan de Fuca Strait off Victoria with Washington's Olympic Mountains for a beautiful backdrop ... Canadian Pacific's BC Coast Service, not quite the last survivor. This photo dates from about the time that CP decided to end this service. The BC government stepped in, purchased the 'Maggie' & put her back in service on the Victoria - Seattle route in 1975, operating under the new 'Crown Corporation' BC Steamships (1975) Ltd. This photo was originally published in the Vancouver Sun newspaper. Vancouver Sun photo [Mr DOT collection] by mrdot., on Flickr
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Post by gweilo8888 on Dec 22, 2016 11:13:52 GMT -8
T.E.V. Princess Patricia / Princess Marguerite fans might be interested to know that the Patricia appears quite prominently in the Season 5 finale of MacGyver, "Passages", which aired for the first time on April 13th, 1990. In the episode, she represents the Osiris, a ship which while hospitalized and in a coma, MacGyver imagines to be a transport vessel to the afterlife. Patricia is featured in what I believe to be her final livery, just as she was shown in photos from Expo 86 which were posted earlier in this thread. (It's that which allowed confirmation that she was the Patricia and not the Marguerite, as the latter was as of the end of the 80s still sporting a Union Jack funnel livery to represent the BC government flag.)
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Post by FNS on Dec 23, 2016 2:45:29 GMT -8
T.E.V. Princess Patricia / Princess Marguerite fans might be interested to know that the Patricia appears quite prominently in the Season 5 finale of MacGyver, "Passages", which aired for the first time on April 13th, 1990. In the episode, she represents the Osiris, a ship which while hospitalized and in a coma, MacGyver imagines to be a transport vessel to the afterlife. Patricia is featured in what I believe to be her final livery, just as she was shown in photos from Expo 86 which were posted earlier in this thread. (It's that which allowed confirmation that she was the Patricia and not the Marguerite, as the latter was as of the end of the 80s still sporting a Union Jack funnel livery to represent the BC government flag.) This episode was filmed aboard the PRINCESS MARGUERITE. The Promenade Deck window enclosure, buff paint on some of the exterior bulkheads, et al, show which one of these two ships was used. Definitely the MAGGIE.
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Post by coastal memories on Apr 16, 2019 20:18:46 GMT -8
I want to share my memories of the Maggie. When she began service for BC Steamships in 1975, I had the good fortune of being taken on one the cruises that took place prior to her going into regular service. This was a real treat for a 6 year old, who only rode BC Ferries and always wondered about the black "CP Air" ship (My mom corrected my mistake haha) that I saw in the Inner Harbour.
That summer, my family started our vacation by travelling to Port Angeles on the ship.
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Post by coastal memories on Aug 24, 2019 11:35:19 GMT -8
I once had a poster of the postcard in the middle. I got it on one of the preview cruises before she re-entered service in 1975. I was six years old but I still remember that cruise with the sea cadet marching band playing first at dockside and then on the ship.
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Post by trainguru on Oct 30, 2019 11:47:02 GMT -8
So, doing some casual searching for Princess Marguerite images in 1980's Seattle, and I came across this, and remembered the MV Regal Empress' sortie as a Ski-Boat in "MythBusters." Diesel Cruise Ship, vs Steam Turbo-Electric Coastal Liner... You be the Judge!
Maggie's Water Skiing Adventure (Take That, "MythBusters"!)
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Post by FNS on Jan 1, 2020 15:35:02 GMT -8
Here's a 1960s postcard look at the Bayshore Inn in Port Angeles. We also see the PRINCESS MARGUERITE backing away from her dock on an afternoon return sailing to Victoria. She did a mid day round trip to Port Angeles between her Seattle sailings back then.
My family and I stayed at this place late in the summer of 1974. After a road trip up Hurricane Ridge, we checked our car in at the CPR dock and enjoyed a parade on PA's streets. We then boarded the MARGUERITE on an hour and a half trip to Victoria. The day before this trip, we took the ILLAHEE from Edmonds to Kingston and crossed Hood Canal on the bridge. We ate at the "3 Crabs" restaurant in Sequim (no longer there nowadays).
1969 would be the last year the MARGUERITE had her buff and black funnels. 1970 would see her having them painted red with the new CP Rail logo on the aft funnel.
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Post by 1foot2ships on Jan 6, 2020 20:32:15 GMT -8
Nice find, Dave, much appreciated!! so cool. u could stay overnight in seattle until they departed next morning?! holey cow, what a deal!
also very interesting they were crewed by americans and ran only 1hr apart! and if im reading it right from the post above, she did a return to PA before the pm run to SEA?! wow. that kinda efficiency impossible to expect nowadays...
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Post by FNS on Jan 7, 2020 13:29:10 GMT -8
Nice find, Dave, much appreciated!! so cool. u could stay overnight in seattle until they departed next morning?! holey cow, what a deal!
also very interesting they were crewed by americans and ran only 1hr apart! and if im reading it right from the post above, she did a return to PA before the pm run to SEA?! wow. that kinda efficiency impossible to expect nowadays...
I don't think these ships were staffed by USA citizens.
These ships had accommodations for the crew on the Orlop Deck, Promenade Deck, and Boat Deck.
It's interesting to note the engineers had their staterooms on the Boat Deck below the funnels. They had their own private lift that went directly down to the Engine Room. Too bad passengers didn't have one those days that would serve between all public decks. The PATRICIA did get one around 1963 for her Alaska cruising days, however.
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Post by Starsteward on Jan 7, 2020 14:22:36 GMT -8
so cool. u could stay overnight in seattle until they departed next morning?! holey cow, what a deal!
also very interesting they were crewed by americans and ran only 1hr apart! and if im reading it right from the post above, she did a return to PA before the pm run to SEA?! wow. that kinda efficiency impossible to expect nowadays...
I don't think these ships were staffed by USA citizens.
These ships had accommodations for the crew on the Orlop Deck, Promenade Deck, and Boat Deck.
It's interesting to note the engineers had their staterooms on the Boat Deck below the funnels. They had their own private lift that went directly down to the Engine Room. Too bad passengers didn't have one those days that would serve between all public decks. The PATRICIA did get one around 1963 for her Alaska cruising days, however.
The C.P., and C.N. ships, as well as the 'Marguerite' after she became part of the B.C. Steamship Co. were all crewed by Canadians.
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Post by ferryguy88 on Mar 3, 2020 21:09:47 GMT -8
I had a diff user name before fyo but couldn't recover due to not having that email access anymore. Here's our friend the Maggie. From best recollection this is once Stena retired her and parked her at Esquimalt. Probably Spring Summer 1990. You can see the Canex lettering in parking stalls through fence from Admirals road. I fought hard to have her saved even writing Cliff Michael Minister responsible and NDP opposition MLAs. I probably have pics of her tied up with the VIP also after the ceasing of BC Stena line. [/img] share.photocircleapp.com/album/VPrzYmVbZQ
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Post by ferryguy88 on Mar 4, 2020 7:27:47 GMT -8
She was quite a ship. I had the opportunity to see the ship at Burrard in the spring of 1975 when she was transformed into the liner of the Union Jack. From a "clown" - like stack of CP Rail to a beautiful British one, well suited for a ship that came from the United Kingdom. We all miss her. Hate to think that any remains of her is infested with deadly Cobras in India. TAKE A PRINCESS TO SEA! . I like how you're so right re the maggie union jack. I never knew her otherwise. The only thing Stena did was put Stena Line on her, they didn't take away the union jack ..one thing they did right
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Post by princessofvanfan on Mar 4, 2020 12:56:33 GMT -8
This has probably already been posted, but deserves another look. Sure miss the old gal!
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Post by Starsteward on Mar 5, 2020 12:11:00 GMT -8
This has probably already been posted, but deserves another look. Sure miss the old gal! I have some glassware, and other items from the 'Maggie' that the owner of a private yacht managed to acquire one day when crews were stripping out the furniture and catering equipment, tossing items down onto the dock to be hauled away for scrap. My friend, the yacht owner was horrified at the callous manner in which the 'Maggie' was being cleaned out, obviously the demo crew had no compassion for the treasures that so many passengers had enjoyed seeing, using and admiring during the many years of service the 'Maggie' provided. Alas, sometimes we only have treasured items in our homes that we can see, feel and use to stay in touch with such a wonderful era of marine transportation on our coast.
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Post by FNS on May 26, 2021 2:55:30 GMT -8
This purchased postcard shows the PRINCESS MARGUERITE in Victoria with the COHO in 1970. This would be the first summer the MARGUERITE had her new funnel looks. The forward one didn't fare well as exhaust from the boiler added its mark. This would also be the last season when she sported open ports at the aft half of the Promenade Deck. This would be enclosed by wood framed glass in 1971. That would also be step one in preparation in the loss of passenger accommodations one deck below as an upper car deck would be established in 1972. An aft observation lounge was added on the Promenade Deck and the ballroom had lounge chairs mounted. After the handover of the ship to BC in 1975, the upper car deck was deleted and replaced by new seating lounges and the ballroom was repurposed as a licensed lounge with entertainment by the McQuillan Brothers. With most of the CPR ships gone and the route to Vancouver replaced by BCF's own routing, most of the elaborate terminal facilities were torn down and replaced by a new one you see in this snap. That middle pier would be gone soon after this pic was taken. The PRINCESS PATRICIA would keep the PRINCESS MARGUERITE company in Victoria during the winter layups.
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Post by trainguru on Nov 12, 2023 16:44:15 GMT -8
Question: Anyone know how much fuel Maggie (II) would burn through on a Seattle-Victoria sailing (one-way, round trip, et cetera)? I've been curious about this for a while.
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